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Hello what is the thermostat and probe which measures heat inside the urethra opening where do I get it do you have pictures or something

Forget that, what do you think of this as an IR lamp

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Originally Posted by train spot
Forget that, what do you think of this as an IR lamp

Pretty much nothing. Forgive me ,and don´t get me wrong, but when I started again in 2018 I studied all the aspects and how to produce the essential heat.
After reading the blogs users sharing their stories and looking for their stats, It was obvious that it is not the way I would choose to struggle.

The options left was diathermy and ultrasound. I choose latter being more convinient, more affordable and hopefully effective enough.

It is possible to elevate temperature with IR, but not cooking their skin and affecting it with discoloring or burns is another story.
Someone might need to took that road, the community still waiting for the internal temperatures and the temperature slopes relative to the heating time to be presented after what, more than 15 years been in use?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


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Originally Posted by train spot
Forget that, what do you think of this as an IR lamp

I’m happy to see experienced users with the same reaction. As soon as I read “urethra thermometer” my cock turtled back into my body and I haven’t been able to coax him out in days.

Originally Posted by CraftingMjolnir
I’m happy to see experienced users with the same reaction. As soon as I read “urethra thermometer” my cock turtled back into my body and I haven’t been able to coax him out in days.

Yeah. It takes some efforts to get used to it and still need lot of motivation to run those experiments.

For the normal daily exercise routines I have never even considered it.

I am hopeful that the temperature can be managed without.

Hopefully you manage to lure it out !


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hello Waterman,

Nice to hear from you.

Reading your description I try to reflect your experiences to mine.

I found the isolated contraction for individual IC leg being most powerful when the I grab the penis with ok grip with all my fingers the at the halfway of the shaft the glans inside the fist..
Using my thumb as fulcrum bending the shaft to the right when using right hand. Left when using left hand.

I am not sure if we ever talked about this study, I think we did. Original link has die I think.

https://www.nat … les/3900730.pdf

This describes nicely the importance of the IC muscle in erection. It is easy to form analogue from testing the performance in to training the muscles. The strongest the IC contractility is suppose to be in the direction used in this study.
Isolating each leg demands the twists and bends I have used.

I do squeeze few sets randomly these days the EQ being my best in years. Now that I have been on decon I haven´t done anything.
When I start to elongate the thing again I will be exercising these again as a necessary tool in repertoire.
I am concidering these exercises very effecive on restoring erectile responses and EQ

Hi

Sorry for delay getting back on this, really appreciate your insights.

It’s clearer now - before I was grabbing the glans and pulling the shaft over the wrist and to the side. Grabbing halfway along is very different, will be trying that - first attempts it seems to slip a bit, but might try with a 1/4 semi and see if it’s easier. And definitely an interesting article - hadn’t seen that before (the one you referred me to before was ‘Anatomy of the penis’ by Hsu where they compared IC bulk on younger vs older people) - it confirms the role of needing good IC function for EQ, also interesting to see the direction of pull was more or less upwards - I will experiment and see. Right now I’m trying to really feel where the IC muscle is and differentiate its contraction to that of the BC muscle …. I think I get it now, but when doing to the side or slightly side/upwards, both IC and BC seem to contract to a degree, but I might be able to isolate IC muscle by increasing the angle upwards, I’ll experiment.

One thing, when you use your thumb as the fulcrum halfway down the shaft, is your other hand doing anything or is it that you have both hands in place (similar to Janus’s stretch)?

Btw, so I actually looked up Janus’s vid on fulcrum stretching in order to maximize contractions, I’ll definitely be doing those from now on. If he’s right about that, it’s revolutionary.

Cheers

W


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
Hi

Sorry for delay getting back on this, really appreciate your insights.

It’s clearer now - before I was grabbing the glans and pulling the shaft over the wrist and to the side. Grabbing halfway along is very different, will be trying that - first attempts it seems to slip a bit, but might try with a 1/4 semi and see if it’s easier. And definitely an interesting article - hadn’t seen that before (the one you referred me to before was ‘Anatomy of the penis’ by Hsu where they compared IC bulk on younger vs older people) - it confirms the role of needing good IC function for EQ, also interesting to see the direction of pull was more or less upwards - I will experiment and see. Right now I’m trying to really feel where the IC muscle is and differentiate its contraction to that of the BC muscle …. I think I get it now, but when doing to the side or slightly side/upwards, both IC and BC seem to contract to a degree, but I might be able to isolate IC muscle by increasing the angle upwards, I’ll experiment.

One thing, when you use your thumb as the fulcrum halfway down the shaft, is your other hand doing anything or is it that you have both hands in place (similar to Janus’s stretch)?

Btw, so I actually looked up Janus’s vid on fulcrum stretching in order to maximize contractions, I’ll definitely be doing those from now on. If he’s right about that, it’s revolutionary.

Cheers

W

Hi w,

The thruth us I have not paid a lot of attention in his theories. But the way the dynamic fulcrums are executed surely activate a lot of these skeletal muscle striations inside the shaft.
If you look in the anatomy and the nervous system, there is a link between smoothmuscle and skeletal muscle.

Anyways, let’s say that some of the inspiration game from there it is righteous to call at least.

I took couple of pics to demonstrate with dildo how I can isolate IC legs and concetrate on contracting each leg separately.

You can see in the palm open pic, that the ring finger is set behind the glans and how the thumb works as a fulcrum.
With this grip I can do the exercises with single hand.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Thank you for the explanation, please continue to do so with the pictures attached for clarification

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hi w,

The thruth us I have not paid a lot of attention in his theories. But the way the dynamic fulcrums are executed surely activate a lot of these skeletal muscle striations inside the shaft.
If you look in the anatomy and the nervous system, there is a link between smoothmuscle and skeletal muscle.

Anyways, let’s say that some of the inspiration game from there it is righteous to call at least.

I took couple of pics to demonstrate with dildo how I can isolate IC legs and concetrate on contracting each leg separately.

You can see in the palm open pic, that the ring finger is set behind the glans and how the thumb works as a fulcrum.
With this grip I can do the exercises with single hand.

OK great thanks, very helpful. I’ll try that way. Do you have any level of engorgement when doing that?


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
We are using ultrasound applications based on established treatments in physical therapy, having clinical studies and applications on human body for 50 years.

Like I previously already suggested in the first paragraph, yes. There are libraries full of examples. From those examples we have had the inspiration to modify the therapies into PE in the first place.
All the tissue elongation studies deal with tissues you mentioned, not any penises involved.

That last sentence is the problem. Nobody gets excited about some damn patellar tendon growing a bit. But if all these studies started off with a goal of making penises larger and vaginas tighter then everyone would pay attention. Any positive results documented via HD pics in true Peer reviewed double Blind studies would spread like wild fire. After everyone had managed to add 30% volume to their unit they would say “hey, I bet this Could also help with my knee.” and the cross applications would be easy.

Originally Posted by CraftingMjolnir
That last sentence is the problem. Nobody gets excited about some damn patellar tendon growing a bit. But if all these studies started off with a goal of making penises larger and vaginas tighter then everyone would pay attention. Any positive results documented via HD pics in true Peer reviewed double Blind studies would spread like wild fire. After everyone had managed to add 30% volume to their unit they would say “hey, I bet this Could also help with my knee.” and the cross applications would be easy.


Hopefully “they” woke some day. After “they” reach consensus on extender studies showing more success for some individuals, they eventually start to research why there is a group of non responders as well.

If we are waiting for the wake up of the medical field, we will spend another twenty years with too small penises again.

They are extending tibia bones with such a success they have not had the time to adjust the Achilles lengthening to a similar level.
I bet they try to make it happen without surgery which is the manoeuvre done these days.
Though I believe the aid will be chemical injection, not the old fashioned heat manipulation.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

The single reason why the medical community has not explored this, is because of revenues. The medical market exist for the sole purpose of profit. Our medical system is exclusively for profit only. The medical market is not there to save lives or to improve people’s lives. It exist there to make huge amounts of profit. In fact, theres is no profit in curing, there is only profit in treating. That is why they come up with drugs that you gotta take for the rest of your life, instead of doing one procedure to cure you, WHICH IS POSSIBLE to achieve with our level of technology. But instead of curing you in one treatment and never see you again, they prefer to have you taking pills and exams for the rest of your life that way the revenues never stop. Put as many humans as possible in these protocols and voila, you earn trillions of revenues each year for pharmaceutical corporations. MD’s receive countless incentives, perks, commissions, by selling drugs and treatments.

With that being said, the medical community is very well aware of the potential of coming out with a successful treatment to enlarge penises. Imagine that. Which man WOULD NOT want to grow his penis?? Of course the vast overwhelming majority of males in the planet will do what’s possible to buy this treatment. Therefore, for the medical community is a matter of structuring a way in which they can either sell a procedure or put patients in a long expensive treatment.

This would not be something like gainswave or the priapus shot. Those are peanuts for the mainstream medical market. This would be some sort of gene therapy treatment and/or visits to a clinic in which they can perform US sessions and they will sell packages of lets say 5 sessions, 10 sessions, etc. The more sessions you buy, the more you grow your dick, BUT it comes with a very high cost, which many will be willing to pay.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hopefully “they” woke some day. After “they” reach consensus on extender studies showing more success for some individuals, they eventually start to research why there is a group of non responders as well.

If we are waiting for the wake up of the medical field, we will spend another twenty years with too small penises again.

They are extending tibia bones with such a success they have not had the time to adjust the Achilles lengthening to a similar level.
I bet they try to make it happen without surgery which is the manoeuvre done these days.
Though I believe the aid will be chemical injection, not the old fashioned heat manipulation.

I agree. If left to the medical complex we will have to wait forever.

I was being sarcastic with the point that if all applicable modalities were used to make penises grow men would get excited about the research.

Sadly, the medical field is not interested in studying any DIY remedies anyway. They want a viagra solution; not a PE solution. I mean hell, the average man in his late 60’s is on 8 medications for weight/blood pressure/energy/libido/etc. But they are just now getting to the point that docs can easily use testosterone replacement therapy (Even that is typically the domain of a low T doc) and it’s still completely taboo to use HGH (yes, HGH can coincide with cancer but the best science seems to indicate this is because the HGH makes all cells grow faster, including cancerous cells, not HGH causing cancer growth). We also know (Dr Longo’s work) that extended day fasting or fasting mimicking diets can essentially cleanse the body of precancerous cells so there should be an easy regimen to get HGH therapy and do a quarterly fasting mimicking dieting. The Use of HGH & TRT generally reduces the need for the majority of those meds that older men are on, it increases their muscle mass and bone density, helps them lean out, and makes them feel and think much better. BUT, both are off patent and neither are big money makers so they constantly pump scary news about those drugs to senior citizens so that anyone without a concierge doctor is never given the tests to see if they need the stuff and, even if they do get the tests, they are terrified to use it and their doctors will never recommend and will rarely prescribe even when the patient asks for them.

Kyrpa,

I have good news to report. During my time with PE (several months) I have been super happy with my length gains but I have never had a single increased measurement on EG girth. I have literally measured EG Before and after a session of bathmate and Jelquing and zero difference. I have had an IR lamp for about 6 weeks but haven’t used it for PE very often and when I did it was in the morning before I started the day but not as part of the PE routine. After reading some of your posts & links I changed up my routine and last night and today I used the IR lamp while Jelquing. Today I did IR/Jelq for 12 minutes and then bathmate for 8 minutes then IR/Jelq for 8 minutes then bathmate for 5 then Jelq for 5 and even after the last 5 minute Jelq session my EG was still close to a half inch larger (I started at ~5.75” EL X 5.5” EG and am now at about 6.15” X 5.5; I don’t do bone pressed). Today after the session EG was just a hair under 6”.

The only thing I changed was the IR lamp and I used water as hot as I could handle in the bathmate.

Also, the initial measurement is likely influenced by poor EQ. As part of the PE I have focused a lot on blood pressure and weight and have begun using 25mg of Sildenafil as my BP medicine before any sessions so that EQ is better and I suspect that is part of the length gains. I have always had a good sex life so my main goal was just getting back to having good EQ and good drive and feeling confident that he would always rise to the occasion so I’m happy just to have that part pretty dialed in but the gains are also exciting.

I’m not ready for clamping yet but I was super happy to see some girth activity for once. As you mentioned before, as it relates to size I am most concerned with total volume expanse but of course would like to achieve that by growth in both length and girth. I think the heat adjustment per your thread might be the tweak my routine needed!

Originally Posted by CraftingMjolnir
Kyrpa,

I have good news to report. During my time with PE (several months) I have been super happy with my length gains but I have never had a single increased measurement on EG girth. I have literally measured EG Before and after a session of bathmate and Jelquing and zero difference. I have had an IR lamp for about 6 weeks but haven’t used it for PE very often and when I did it was in the morning before I started the day but not as part of the PE routine. After reading some of your posts & links I changed up my routine and last night and today I used the IR lamp while Jelquing. Today I did IR/Jelq for 12 minutes and then bathmate for 8 minutes then IR/Jelq for 8 minutes then bathmate for 5 then Jelq for 5 and even after the last 5 minute Jelq session my EG was still close to a half inch larger (I started at ~5.75” EL X 5.5” EG and am now at about 6.15” X 5.5; I don’t do bone pressed). Today after the session EG was just a hair under 6”.

The only thing I changed was the IR lamp and I used water as hot as I could handle in the bathmate.

Also, the initial measurement is likely influenced by poor EQ. As part of the PE I have focused a lot on blood pressure and weight and have begun using 25mg of Sildenafil as my BP medicine before any sessions so that EQ is better and I suspect that is part of the length gains. I have always had a good sex life so my main goal was just getting back to having good EQ and good drive and feeling confident that he would always rise to the occasion so I’m happy just to have that part pretty dialed in but the gains are also exciting.

I’m not ready for clamping yet but I was super happy to see some girth activity for once. As you mentioned before, as it relates to size I am most concerned with total volume expanse but of course would like to achieve that by growth in both length and girth. I think the heat adjustment per your thread might be the tweak my routine needed!

What are the specs. of your IR light and at what distance/angle/position did you use it?

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