Glad to be here.

You can go back down to the same number you were doing before with no ill effects at all. Keep with the jar lifter if it’s doing you good. You have plenty of time left to ramp up, believe me.

Thanks man, I’ll do that.

PE is definitely more about working smart than working hard. There’s plenty of time to work hard later on in your PE trials. *chuckles*

Upon recommendation, I have gone back to the “Newbie Routine”. For the last week I have been going 1 day on 1 day off, 5 minutes warm-up, 5 minutes stretching, 200 wet jelqs(100 with a jar lifter), and 5 minutes warm down plus kegels. With the New Year, I decided to finally set a number goal to be reached by December 31, 2017. My goal is to be at 7” BPEL and 5” EG. I’m not sure of my current stats, because I don’t want to measure until around 3 months, which will be at the end of this month. What I do know is my penis is considerably larger, both flaccid and erect. I would say I’m definitely over the 6” BPEL mark now, yet girth is hard to judge. It definitely feels thicker, but I can’t put any number on it.

Both EQ and morning wood are great. I haven’t had this much wood in years. I’ve added the supplements L-Arginine and Maca as well in the last two weeks. The Maca certainly has boosted my energy levels. I feel really good, physically and mentally. My self confidence alone has gone up considerably since starting PE, yet it still needs a bit of work. I continue to do edging also and I figured it out to now be 43 days without cumming. Don’t know if that’s good or not? It hasn’t seemed to do me any harm, accept for the initial blue balls, that I got over in a few days.

Well I’m still at it. Continuing with the “Newbie Routine” but have added something to my routine I’d like to share.

For most of my PE sessions, the most difficult thing for me has been finding a good source of heat. At first I would wrap a hot washcloth around my penis. It was effective but I constantly had to keep wetting it to keep it hot. Then I thought a five minute shower, holding just the shower head over my penis. Again, effective, but felt bad about all the wasted water because I’d end up taking another shower right after. I didn’t want to go out and buy anything, so I continued the shower for about a month when I discovered in my bathroom cabinet a blow drier for hair.

For me, I think I found the perfect tool for my heat source now. I use it to warm the penis before stretches, then I’ll set it on the counter and let it blow the nice hot air on me while stretching. After jelqing, I once again turn it on for some nice heat to end my session. The only cautions would be are to not hold it too close, for it is HOT and don’t put it near a sink or toilet full of water. I have tried it on the back of the toilet as well, but guys make sure the lid is down. I figured I’d put these warnings in, because even though I think grown men are smart enough to know this, there may be a few out there that may not and I don’t want to be responsible for any injuries.

Still making progress. Will be taking my first measurement since starting on Friday. Two months in. The anticipation excites me, because I know I’ll be happy with the results. A lot of time and effort has gone into this and I’m determined to make this work.

Noticing a lot of veins popping out that I have never noticed before. Don’t know if that’s a good thing? I’m not experiencing any pain and I’m still getting great wood, so I’m not really worried.

I have found the added heat is doing wonders. The hairdryer has been what I believe to be my best find, so far.

I am still at:
5 minutes heat up.
5 minutes stretching, heat included.
200 wet jelqs. No heat. I Alternate between overhand, underhand, and jar lifter strokes.
5 more minutes of heat, to seal the deal.
kegels and periodic edging sessions.

MESUREMENT DAY

Okay, I said I was going to measure on Friday but I realized I wasn’t going to have time tomorrow so I measured a day early. I’ll look at it that it’s Friday somewhere in the world. If you don’t see it that way, forgive me. Or don’t, because I really couldn’t give a damn. haha

Anyway, here are the results of heating and tugging and stroking and doing far more to my penis then I ever imagined it could take. Seriously, I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen off yet. Measuring was a challenge for me. The was nothing to length, but had issues when it came to girth. Every time I’d have my penis nice and hard, when I’d go to grab the tape measure, it would start going soft. Anyone else have this issue? Does this have something to do with stress and trying to get an accurate reading? I’m just stating this because my measurement may be off slightly, but I’m pretty sure it’s accurate.

Length:
Beginning BPEL as of November 20, 2016 was 5 3/4”. Two months in I stand at a BPEL of 6 5/8” For an increase of 7/8”

Girth:
Beginning EG as of November 20, 2016 was 4 1/2”. Two months in I stand at an EG of 4 3/4” An increase of 1/4”

Personal feelings on this:

I can look at these measurements two different ways:

1. I’m Excited!! All the effort and determination I have been putting into PE is paying off. I’m doing things right and experiencing gains. With continued effort I should have no issues of reaching my goal by December 31, 2017 of 7” BPEL and 5” EG. (optimistic view)

2. I’m Skeptical? I started out at this length and girth all along and haven’t made any accomplishments for my efforts. I just didn’t know how to use a ruler and tape before, so my beginning measurements were way off. Or, I could have just took them wrong? Even though I read on how measure, I still fudged it up. So pretty much everything I have been doing has been a waste of time and effort. There is no way possible I’ll see my goal by the end of the year, because this crap just doesn’t work. Why bother continuing? (pessimistic view)

I’ll go with the optimistic view, it’s far more like me.

Now that I know I’m achieving gains, where to next? Stay with the “Newbie Routine” or add something else? But what?

I’ll just continue with what I’ve been doing for now. I have lots of time to think of so many different options. Experiencing gains the way I am, I think right now it’s best to just keep at what I’m doing.

James,

First of all great job on those gains you can consider yourself a fast gainer !
If the routine you’re at is still efficient, don’t change a thing. If you fell it now need a little push add more reps or maybe give new exercises a try. Just be carefull and don’t over do it with new stuff.
It really does get more difficult in the long run to get gains, you are probably going to need at least double the time you spent on those first gains to get the same again, not to be a mood killer, just so that you don’t get frustrated if gains come slower in the future.
Measuring is a struggle for most people I think, especially girth at least for me as well. I some time use a cockring that isn’t to tight, it helps.

Good luck to you, you might just get those rather realistic 2017 goals.

Congratulations my friend!! Your consistency and determination is paying off. Keep on track with your successful routine. If you would like to increase girth consider clamping and edging later on. You are doing an awesome job.

Thanks guys,

I don’t plan on adding anything to my routine anytime soon. I do think my goal is a realistic one, though I don’t expect it will be easy. I feel I have gained quite a bit of length in two months, but am sure it will get harder and harder as time goes on. Coming here for an EQ problem, I do question my beginning measurements a bit. It was hard to get an erection when I took those. My erection may not have been a strong one and could have caused it to be smaller than I thought. If anything, it would have been a small amount because I did get my penis as hard as I could to get that first measurement.

Anyway, here I am and happy with the results. I’m proud I was able to add this simple and non-time consuming routine into my life. It’s enough to convince me it’s working and to continue. It’s raised my self esteem and energy levels. If I walk away right now, knowing I could keep these as final results, I would be happy. Though it’s not the case and I’m going to stay and shoot for the sky. There’s no limit to where PE can take me, now.

In addition to my last post, I would just like to say that what makes me happiest about my results is to finally be able to say “I’m average”. Something I feel I always fell short of. Just knowing this greatly increases my confidence and will push me to retain what I have gained. If this is the end of the road and I don’t see anymore gains, I’ll still be one of the happiest men on the face of the earth. Mostly because I now know I’m average.

Your progress has been excellent, man. Truly. I’m happy for you. Mental and physical. Cuz being happy with yourself has no size tag.

I thank you! I couldn’t have done it without your infinite wisdom and advice either. Your help along the way has kept me on course. You truly are one of “The Greats” here at Thunders.

I ain’t no “Great”, I’m just a guy who’s made most of the mistakes you can make before and trying to help others avoid em. If I helped you then I’m very glad. That’s why I’m here.

Well I’m sorry you take offense to being called “A Great Man”. I believe anyone who had flourished and failed and isn’t afraid to come forward and let others know he still falters, is a “Great Inspiration”. Someone who takes the time to help others by giving the best advice they can, through an argues journey, is a “Great Leader” . Ones ability to spread the word so others do what has been successful and don’t do what has caused failure, at least to me, is one who has “Great Knowledge”. Like it or not, you’re a “Great Man” and I’m a “Great Man” and countless others here are “Great Men”. You just need to tell yourself that once in a while. Not so much you become an ego maniac, but for your own self worth. We are “Great”, we are “Men”, and we all have to believe it.