Hanging: Ride the Fatigue (Blink's Progress)

Straight out with 4 kg, it’s quite a new angle that I’m trying. Previous angle was straight down.

I would like to spend 3 or so days hanging multiple sets to try and induce fatigue. Although when I last tried that, my older sleeves slipped and I ended up developing a blister which stopped me hanging for around 3-4 weeks.

I’ve since replaced them with brand new sleeves, healed the blister and I’m ready to go again.

On a side note I’m also noticing a red discolouration covering the head which looks like it could be headed towards bruising. It fades and hasn’t left marks yet. Although It could be worth using some kind of padding even something like a plaster to help. Will make some changes and monitor the progress.

I use a traditional hanging device so my experience is different.

That discoloration doesn’t sound good…

Yeah the force seems focus more on the head. Time to try something else.

I distinctly remember starting smaller and only reaching 5.4" BPEL.. it’s 15 years later now though, so hard to say, but I think my beginning stats where this:

—Starting Stats—
BPEL 5.4” EG 4.88” 16 June 2008 (not 6"), maybe I was too embarassed to be honest? not sure. Maybe it was an erection quality thing, who knows.

—Current Stats—
BPEL 7.0” EG 5.25” 27 Dec 2023

I made a lot of progress I’ve never shared. I’m going to switch from hanging to pumping now, with new goals:

—GOAL Stats—
BPEL 7.5” EG 6.00” <some future data>

My current progress is around 38% increase in penis volume / my new goal would put me at around a 68% increase in total volume. I’ve noticed after doing no PE for over 10 years, my tissue feels very "stretchy", like there’s potential for some good growth gains (when I stopped doing PE, I remember internal ligament / tissues felt very hard… I think the years of doing nothing have softened it).

Wow that was my starting length too. I’m pushing 6.75bpel. Keep it up man. I’m going to poke around with pumping too. I have a bathmate but looking to get an air pump.

Why switch to the air pump? isn’t that more risky for damage / or are you tired of being wet all the time? I haven’t pumped before by the way — it’s going to be a learning experience for me.

I checked my logs here elsewhere, and both state I started at 6", so for consistency (if no other reason), I’ll stick with stating my gains as:

—- starting ——
BPEL 6" EG 4.88" (29.28 volume)

—- current ——
BPEL 7" EG 5.25" (36.75 volume, 23% gain from start)

—- goal ——
BPEL 7.5" EG 6" (45 volume, 42% gain from start)

I figured out the discrepancy, I started on another forum (DLD’s), and never included my original size on this forum (instead, my starting size on Thunders was from where I was at that point in time in 2008), my original starting size was:

—- Pre PE ——
BPEL 5.4" EG 4.75" (25.65 volume)

Just completed my first PE routine in over 10 years. I forgot how gentle / basic the newbie routine is; and it’s amazing I gained about about 0.31" during my original beginner routine (many years ago). However, I wonder how much was EQ gain and how much was real growth. I’ll complete my first 90 day newbie routine towards the end of March 2024.

I believe there is something to the theory of limiting factors; a lot has to change for growth in every structure of the penis: the skin, nerves, connective tissues, corpus spongiosum, corpus caveronosum, urethra, etc. How long does each structure take: nerves, spongy tissues, skin, ligaments & other tissues…

One model we already have for growth is the standard development of males during the years of puberty. Granted all these things are going to be happening within some standard deviations (wide variance depending on genetic & conditional factors) within a normal curve where there’s drastic differences in development at the far ends of the spectrum (2-3 standard deviations out).

I plan to use the scientific method on myself, with more controlled experiments this time. The question is, what is the right duration of an experiment? 3-4 weeks with a similar routine? More / less? It needs to be long enough to observe measurable growth (we can’t improve what we can’t measure). If I don’t run the experiment long enough, I could end up switching away from something that’s working. On the other hand, the more time I keep running a routine that isn’t working, the more time I waste (we only live once, time is the one thing none of us can get more of).

Thoughts on what experiments may include:
-ideal short term rest durations (2 days on, 1 day off, and other variants such as 5 days on, 2 days off)
-ideal long term rest durations (3 months on, 1 month off, other variants?)
-the right amount of force: manual, pumping & hanging are all means to an end that can applying varying degrees of force in very different ways.
-some argue no rest durations are needed… I stalled last time I tried no rest duration but there were conflating factors such as heat (I didn’t have enough), & was I using too much force too fast, for too short or too long durations. My unit would get really cold during my 20 minute hanging sessions. This time around I’m going to keep a heater pointed at my unit at all times to eliminate the possibility of heat being the issue.

Thoughts on PE & health (even mental):
-I think for all of us, it’s about self-improvement and seeing what our potential is…
-I view this as a form of body building (I’m working on the rest of my body too right now; I’ve set new goals to get myself in a more ideal state physically too).
-Physical health: I was measured as having very low testosterone & wonder if that hurt my PE efforts in the past (I’m on treatment now & it will be interesting to see if that makes any difference).
-Mental health: growing up I was ridiculed for having a small flaccid (I was a grower, not a shower); PE has given me a new confidence I never had before (and I’m far less self concious now about my size)
-PE has yielded shocking feedback for me — hearing my penis is huge or beautiful is very odd for me (after spending most of my life thinking my penis was too small). If you look at the statistics, my current length (though smaller than many on this forum) is at the 1 percentile for most major studies (7" BPEL, although I can’t get that measure every day; I need perfect conditions)
-I’m also getting older, I’m worried about ED. PE will be my means of keeping my unit working & functional (I had a scare the other day when I couldn’t "get it up" and for younger guys, they probably can’t imagine this, but let me just say it’s STRONG motivation to make life changes).
-I’ve also simplified my view on what PE is — based on evidence in this forum & others, I’ve seen people succeed in many different ways. The one pattern I see is that usually only people that put in extreme time or effort have great success.

Measuring every day, or even before and after your PE sessions, would give you enough data points to track that.

While the general expectation is that gains happen slowly and steadily, my own measurements show it happens in small jumps. If your gains are like that, you wouldn’t want to lose the next jump by quitting too early.

I guess it’s like playing roulette. It’s easy to win at roulette; all you have to do is pick the right numbers.

Definitely. I went from working on my dick to exercise and weight lifting, which paid off masively in general physical health. I wish I’d started long ago. [sigh]

Very helpful thoughts AndyJ — I wasn’t measuring daily before (I didn’t measure today either). I’ll measure & record those results daily from now on. Very helpful insight on the "small jumps".

The small jumps were a surprise. The general advice is to space measurements out to once every month to three months, so you’re not disappointed from having no detectable progress from day to day. Now I wish I’d measured a lot more often.

I measure before and after every session of hanging but I measure in mm the bone pressed stretched distance to the retro glandular sulcus (the end of the shaft right at the edge of the glans) to calculate strain for the session. This gives me an idea of efficacy of the session and the hope is that creating 2-5% strain each workout will accumulate over time to permanent gains but keeps it somewhat mentally separate from a full official measurement.

But I only do an official, untrained full measurement once a month to track gains over time (though I occasionally do an unofficial measurement for fun).

This way I can keep an eye on what seems to be working, or working better, day-to-day, and not get too obsessed about the postable official numbers, which start to come pretty slowly after a while.

That sounds pretty unique @TenaciousD - I don’t think I’ve heard of that measuring methodology before. In my opinion, if it’s giving you objective, consistent & solid daily feedback, then that’s really what matters. By the way, I just created this post to see if others have thoughts on the best way to measure here:

Measure Progress and when to change routine