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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by igigi
Measured today just to check in, still at 23.9-24cm

I am receiving the liquid tape tomorrow and my glans is almost fully healed. I will try to restart tomorrow depending at what time I get off work.

On a side note, since chatting with other individuals regarding BPEL, the reason why I haven’t measured yet, or why I haven’t given importance to it, is because this therapy IS NOT directly intended to develop BPEL. This therapy has one specific purpose: To grow the Septum which is the limiting factor of PE. It is the dead end.

Many people claim that there are ways to hit the septum and grow. Many people claim that they were able to grow the septum. True. But that is because those individuals have not reached the dead end. Once the septum tissue thickens and thought up, you can hang a car from it and it wont grow.

That is why specifically, again, this therapy is strictly developed to break that dead end of the septum. At the same time, that is why this therapy IS NOT intended for rookies. All your tissues MUST be conditioned for this, and the Septum HAS to be depleted of any possible growth through conventional methods.

That was my situation. As I have posted many times, I stopped gaining length more than 10 years ago. Why? Septum. I started PE over 20 years ago and reached the point of that dead end. Tried all type of routines and exercises, My girth grew, my curve became more pronounced, but there was no more length. Why? Septum.

Thats the reason why I do not care at this moment in the about BPEL. Because once I grow enough Septum, I am 100% confident that my BPEL will grow behind once I dedicate exercise to tunica and smooth muscle.

I will still measure BPEL soon, perhaps there is some “automatic” growth there, but it will be mostly a reference. My priority, as this novel treatment is intended, is Septum.

I think if you were to have a good and long edge session, you’d be surprised how much your potential BPEL has already changed.

Best of luck, this has been an edifying thread!


There is no try, just do...

Todays experiment brought some disappointing results, but a highly valuable data.

The whole experiment today was based around the recently acquired liquid bandage to protect the glans from blisters. I applied it over around 1/5 of the glans, starting from the tip. I only covered that area because that is where blisters usually develop. I applied two layers to make it stronger.

During the US portion of the therapy, I applied around 6kg of tension. Toward the end, 2 minutes before finishing, the whole setup (vacuum cup) started slipping off my glans. I was able to finish the US, but cool down I had to reduce it to 2.5kg since the vacuum was almost completely gone. After some 13 minutes of cool down the cup finally completely came off, only to find a big mess of blood and fluid coming out.

While the area covered by the two layers of liquid bandage was successfully protected from developing blisters, the vacuum pressure was still high enough to develop one single giant bloody blister on the edge of the liquid bandage. In other words, the blister begun just outside the area of the glans covered by liquid bandage, and the high pressure lifted the layers causing the bleeding underneath.

My perception:

- The liquid bandage works. What I would try next time, is adding a third layer and this time cover 50% of the glans starting from the tip down.

- In regards to the vacuum cup slipping off. I believe the problem is based on the friction between the leg and the cup. Once a certain level of tension is reached, the cup while pushed down against the leg and trying to move forward, starts wrinkling the skin of the leg while destabilizing the position of the cup on the glans and that triggered the uneven pull that eventually caused an unscheduled rapid pressurization of the device.

As a result, here comes one of the valuable portions. As in the last therapy in which there was no change in length, this time there was almost no change too. Although I was able to completely finish the US portion at the correct tension and correct temperature, there was almost no change in length. So what was the difference this time? Improper cool down.

As in the last therapy, in which I was unable to do proper cool down, this shows how critical and important is the cool down portion of the therapy. It seems like no matter how much you strain during the therapy, if you do not cool down, the tissues shrink rapidly to their initial cold dimensions. Only the proper cool down allows the Septum to stay elongated. These 2 last therapies have proven that.

My after measurement was taken some 10 minutes after the vacuum cup came off as I was cleaning the giant mess between fluid, blood and US gel.

Pre BPFSL: 23.9cm
Post BPFSL: 24.1
Strain: 0.8%

Will monitor the evolution of this new blister in order to continue the protocol.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hello Igigi,

How you going with the BPEL?
I been doing this for for 6 sessions and I obtained some results with flaccid length but non gains with erect lencht so far.
Date BPSFL PRE (mm) BPSFL PRO (mm) Diference (mm) Diference %
26/07/20 183 186 3 1.64%
27/07/20 183 187 4 2.19%
28/07/20 185 190 5 2.70%

31/07/20 186 190 4 2.15%
01/08/20 187 192 5 2.67%
02/08/20 188 193 5 2.66%

05/08/20 186 190 4 2.15%
06/08/20 186 192 6 3.23%
07/08/20 186.5 191 4.5 2.41%

10/08/20 187 190 3 1.60%
11/08/20 189 193 4 2.12%
12/08/20 190 192 2 1.05%

17/08/20 187 193 6 3.21%
18/08/20 188 193.5 5.5 2.93%
19/08/20 187 194 7 3.74%

22/08/20 188 191 3 1.60%
23/08/20 190 194 4 2.11%
24/08/20 191 195 4 2.09%


01/02/2010 17,5cm BP x 13,25cm 18/03/2010 18,3cm BP x 13,5cm Rest. = 3,5cm x 3,5cm ---meta---> 21cm BP x 16,5cm=>

02/01/2010 6.89'' BP x 5.1" 03/18/2010 7.2" x 5.3"------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5 Left = 1.4" x 1.4" ------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5

03/20/2019 19 x 14 cm

Originally Posted by mjana
Hello Igigi,

How you going with the BPEL?
I been doing this for for 6 sessions and I obtained some results with flaccid length but non gains with erect lencht so far.
Date BPSFL PRE (mm) BPSFL PRO (mm) Diference (mm) Diference %
26/07/20 183 186 3 1.64%
27/07/20 183 187 4 2.19%
28/07/20 185 190 5 2.70%

31/07/20 186 190 4 2.15%
01/08/20 187 192 5 2.67%
02/08/20 188 193 5 2.66%

05/08/20 186 190 4 2.15%
06/08/20 186 192 6 3.23%
07/08/20 186.5 191 4.5 2.41%

10/08/20 187 190 3 1.60%
11/08/20 189 193 4 2.12%
12/08/20 190 192 2 1.05%

17/08/20 187 193 6 3.21%
18/08/20 188 193.5 5.5 2.93%
19/08/20 187 194 7 3.74%

22/08/20 188 191 3 1.60%
23/08/20 190 194 4 2.11%
24/08/20 191 195 4 2.09%

Nice data table! Please read his thread where he goes in depth about this issue and other things related.


There is no try, just do...

Hello Beyond9,

Thanks man.

Thanks for that advise but just came out from Kyra’s threat and I need recovery time.

What could you tell me about this subject? :)


01/02/2010 17,5cm BP x 13,25cm 18/03/2010 18,3cm BP x 13,5cm Rest. = 3,5cm x 3,5cm ---meta---> 21cm BP x 16,5cm=>

02/01/2010 6.89'' BP x 5.1" 03/18/2010 7.2" x 5.3"------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5 Left = 1.4" x 1.4" ------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5

03/20/2019 19 x 14 cm

Originally Posted by mjana
Hello Igigi,

How you going with the BPEL?
I been doing this for for 6 sessions and I obtained some results with flaccid length but non gains with erect lencht so far.
Date BPSFL PRE (mm) BPSFL PRO (mm) Diference (mm) Diference %
26/07/20 183 186 3 1.64%
27/07/20 183 187 4 2.19%
28/07/20 185 190 5 2.70%

31/07/20 186 190 4 2.15%
01/08/20 187 192 5 2.67%
02/08/20 188 193 5 2.66%

05/08/20 186 190 4 2.15%
06/08/20 186 192 6 3.23%
07/08/20 186.5 191 4.5 2.41%

10/08/20 187 190 3 1.60%
11/08/20 189 193 4 2.12%
12/08/20 190 192 2 1.05%

17/08/20 187 193 6 3.21%
18/08/20 188 193.5 5.5 2.93%
19/08/20 187 194 7 3.74%

22/08/20 188 191 3 1.60%
23/08/20 190 194 4 2.11%
24/08/20 191 195 4 2.09%

Hey man good job at keeping track.

This therapy is not intended to provide results on BPEL. This therapy is exclusively and specifically for advanced users who have reached the dead end of the Septum. Although Kyrpa has been experimenting the use of US for EG and BPEL, the literature applied in this protocol is for the collagen tissues such as tendon and ligaments also found in the Septum.

Advanced users who have reached the dead end of the Septum cannot grow in length. This therapy enlarges the Septum providing once again that gap between BPFSL>BPEL that creates the potential for BPEL growth through exercise.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hello Igigi,

Thanks for for your reply. Reading Kyrpa’s log you can see that he has some grow in BPEL.
I just was wonder if there is any relation between some amount of BPFSL to BPEL.

I got stuck some years ago I tried many ads and hanging, but was so demanding in hours spending.
Even I haven’t gain any millimeter in erect state I feel really positive about this US protocol.

I think I have to give another read to Kyrpa’s log to find exactly where he did the BPEL

Cheers


01/02/2010 17,5cm BP x 13,25cm 18/03/2010 18,3cm BP x 13,5cm Rest. = 3,5cm x 3,5cm ---meta---> 21cm BP x 16,5cm=>

02/01/2010 6.89'' BP x 5.1" 03/18/2010 7.2" x 5.3"------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5 Left = 1.4" x 1.4" ------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5

03/20/2019 19 x 14 cm

Originally Posted by mjana
Hello Igigi,

Thanks for for your reply. Reading Kyrpa’s log you can see that he has some grow in BPEL.
I just was wonder if there is any relation between some amount of BPFSL to BPEL.

I got stuck some years ago I tried many ads and hanging, but was so demanding in hours spending.
Even I haven’t gain any millimeter in erect state I feel really positive about this US protocol.

I think I have to give another read to Kyrpa’s log to find exactly where he did the BPEL

Cheers

Yes, but notice that Kypra was doing 2 separate workouts a day. His evening workout included the US therapy which was targeting directly the Septum. The other workout which included stretches and jelquing was targeting BPEL.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Thank for your deference Igigi :)


01/02/2010 17,5cm BP x 13,25cm 18/03/2010 18,3cm BP x 13,5cm Rest. = 3,5cm x 3,5cm ---meta---> 21cm BP x 16,5cm=>

02/01/2010 6.89'' BP x 5.1" 03/18/2010 7.2" x 5.3"------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5 Left = 1.4" x 1.4" ------goal---> 8.25" BP x 6.5

03/20/2019 19 x 14 cm

As a quick update, I am waiting for this last blister to heal, then I intend to do at least a couple of “normal” cycles. No experimentation, just already proven successful cycles to keep things going.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
As a quick update, I am waiting for this last blister to heal, then I intend to do at least a couple of “normal” cycles. No experimentation, just already proven successful cycles to keep things going.

You said your next BPEL measurement is mid September?

Originally Posted by djrobins
You said your next BPEL measurement is mid September?

No, it will be September 7-8 just to keep all numbers monthly like the ones in my signature. So thats next week.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Just wanted to update, I have been VERY busy with work, the economy is BOOMING as we slowly reopen businesses, my blister is healed and ready to go, and I decided I will restart the protocol and measure this weekend. Also these extra days will further fortify the area of the blister.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hey Igigi,

Please keep updating. As a fellow steel cord owner, your progress has given me hope, really want to see if I can gain. Please update us with your BPEL measuremens soon.

What’s the “cool down” portion of your therapy look like? How much is under heat and how much is the “cool down” process.

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