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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by wurst
I found it a little cheaper on ebay, like 123USD or something. I don’t know about treating muscular soreness. I would try to avoid that in the first place.

I’m into fitness. I believe the intended purpose of this device was to heat tissues to aid in stretching and reduce soreness. So for recurring lower back pain for example this should get right at it, or tight hamstrings.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I’m into fitness. I believe the intended purpose of this device was to heat tissues to aid in stretching and reduce soreness. So for recurring lower back pain for example this should get right at it, or tight hamstrings.

Sorry, if I got that wrong. I thought you were referring to soreness after exercise. In any case, I don’t know but to me pain is overdoing it and that should be avoided. It is a sign that you should step back. Let’s not hijack the thread, though.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by djrobins
I’m into fitness. I believe the intended purpose of this device was to heat tissues to aid in stretching and reduce soreness. So for recurring lower back pain for example this should get right at it, or tight hamstrings.


It works on pain reduction even with lower intensity and duty cycle percentages.

I have managed to heat and stretch small muscles and tendons with the 1.6w/cm2 100% duty.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by wurst
Sorry, if I got that wrong. I thought you were referring to soreness after exercise. In any case, I don’t know but to me pain is overdoing it and that should be avoided. It is a sign that you should step back. Let’s not hijack the thread, though.

I don’t normally get sore. But some athletes do. It doesn’t mean they over did anything. They might have had a tougher training regiment required to raise their limits. I get it if you are talking about couch potatoes… Soreness on them usually means injury, or overdoing it. In the case of myself I don’t get sore if i warm up properly and my protein intake is on point. Occasionally if I’m pushing it and trying to expand my limits, soreness can occur… But like I said, on myself, I normally only notice soreness if my protein intake is not sufficient, but occasionally in oddball cases it can occur.

In the case of that lower back pain, I really don’t get it if I stay active. If I become inactive, after about a month or so i can have a nagging lower back pain. And some knee pains. Heating pads can help.

But then again, on myself, simply being active with a sufficient cardio and weights component cures any pain and soreness issues. But that is on myself. I can’t speak for everyone.

So now that i’ve explained that and how it works on me. Intentionally heating the muscular tissues can be good for thereputic purposes and I’m pretty sure they can be useful in a high performance athelete.

Adios.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I don’t normally get sore. But some athletes do. It doesn’t mean they over did anything. They might have had a tougher training regiment required to raise their limits. I get it if you are talking about couch potatoes.. Soreness on them usually means injury, or overdoing it. In the case of myself I don’t get sore if I warm up properly and my protein intake is on point. Occasionally if I’m pushing it and trying to expand my limits, soreness can occur.. But like I said, on myself, I normally only notice soreness if my protein intake is not sufficient, but occasionally in oddball cases it can occur.

In the case of that lower back pain, I really don’t get it if I stay active. If I become inactive, after about a month or so I can have a nagging lower back pain. And some knee pains. Heating pads can help.

But then again, on myself, simply being active with a sufficient cardio and weights component cures any pain and soreness issues. But that is on myself. I can’t speak for everyone.

So now that I’ve explained that and how it works on me. Intentionally heating the muscular tissues can be good for thereputic purposes and I’m pretty sure they can be useful in a high performance athelete.

Adios.

Ok, thank’s for clarifying :)


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Ok, thank’s for clarifying :)

I’m looking forward to that US .5in” quick gains… My old gains will probably come back really quickly, plus an additional .5” or greater, praise god…

Originally Posted by wurst
I understand you about the replication of what has been proven to work.

I don’t think that experiment has been done under US. I can’t even remember if it was done under additional heat. Probably not.. It was just a tissue expansion study but the concept should be true for other conditions, too.

Got another one :)
Idea 4: Given the septum is the limiting factor, the bottleneck, then it would make send to focus the heat on that area more specifically. I was thinking 10 minutes of normal heating up with US until max. Temp is reached, then switch going up and down only without rotating the head of the US in order to focus the heat on the cord. However I guess it would make send to do normal heating in between to reheat the surrounding tissue once in a while, maybe every 3 minutes or so for 30 seconds. Just numbers spitting out. The main idea is to heat up the cord even more. I want to start the regimen myself but I don’t have the equipment, yet. Once I have it, I will experiment myself. Still going through some threads. Has the question been answered where to buy a reliable US machine in Europe, btw?

Idea #4: That is the way I do it. I use a 1mhz US device, heat the ventral side, and I locate it right in the center of the shaft so the heat directly targets only the Septum. I can not only feel the heat in there, but also measured multiple times at different points with the thermometer directly on top of the septum.

As far as equipment, look up on Ebay. I bought my two US Pro 2000 Second edition on eBay, used, for about US$80 a piece. Just keep looking, you will find one at some point, make sure they ship to Europe.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Idea #4: That is the way I do it. I use a 1mhz US device, heat the ventral side, and I locate it right in the center of the shaft so the heat directly targets only the Septum. I can not only feel the heat in there, but also measured multiple times at different points with the thermometer directly on top of the septum.

As far as equipment, look up on Ebay. I bought my two US Pro 2000 Second edition on eBay, used, for about US$80 a piece. Just keep looking, you will find one at some point, make sure they ship to Europe.

I just checked anatomy, again and the septum is pretty much in the center of the penis between the CC’s. It makes sense, then, to apply heat this way. However, I am wondering how people feel or see or even know that this structure is the limiting factor, as it cannot be seen, felt or anything. How can people know? How can I know? Why do we take that for granted?

Thank’s for the advice on buying a US device. If I cannot find a used one today, I will buy a new one. I am just too impatient ^^


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I just checked anatomy, again and the septum is pretty much in the center of the penis between the CC’s. It makes sense, then, to apply heat this way. However, I am wondering how people feel or see or even know that this structure is the limiting factor, as it cannot be seen, felt or anything. How can people know? How can I know? Why do we take that for granted?

Thank’s for the advice on buying a US device. If I cannot find a used one today, I will buy a new one. I am just too impatient ^^

When I maxed out on length there was a tough fibrous tissue in the core of the cock preventing further elongation. It’s the septum. You won’t feel it until you max out tunica based length gains.

Originally Posted by djrobins
When I maxed out on length there was a tough fibrous tissue in the core of the cock preventing further elongation. It’s the septum. You won’t feel it until you max out tunica based length gains.

I can clearly feel it, as well, without a doubt. Just wondering what structure that is.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I can clearly feel it, as well, without a doubt. Just wondering what structure that is.

Its tough like a thick nylon cord.

Originally Posted by wurst
I can clearly feel it, as well, without a doubt. Just wondering what structure that is.

Yes you can clearly feel it. The septum is the structure that connects the tunica of the 2 CC’s in the center. The tunica is not really like a sock on top of the 2 CC’s, but rather, is like if each CC has its own tunica. These 2 tunicas connect in the middle of the shaft, creating this tough hard cord that runs all the way to the glans. If you cut the penis in half and look at it from the front, the Septum will have the shape of a “T” Where these 2 tunica connect. At that point, is not hard and tough. But when you stretch the penis forward, as all the structures start to elongate, the last one to put resistance is this “T” in the middle. And also as you pull out the penis, this T elongates becoming more like a thick cord.

The best way to feel the septum, as you stretch your penis forward with one hand, use your other hand to touch around everywhere. You will notice that on top of the penis there sis a thick tendon or connective tissue that doesnt allow you to pull further. That is the Tunica.

When the limitation of the Tunica is severe, as it was in my case, you stretch your penis forward, and as you touch the tunica on the sides of the penis, they are lose. Almost hanging there like if they were not stretched at all. Same with the CS, as I touched it it was relaxed. However, on top of my penis I was feeling this tendon like structure preventing me from pulling more. So all my other structures have grown around, except for this one.

Now, after adding 2 centimeters to the Septum, when I pull out, all the other structures are almost evenly pulled out too.

So when you asked how people know this is the limiting factor, well, in my case for example as I explained, when putting tension on my penis, all the other structures were still almost relaxed while the only section of the penis that was hard under tension, was this cord in the center of it, the septum. And of course for years I tried multiple ways to stretch it or loosen it unsuccessfully. In fact, the more you fight it, the tougher it gets.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Thank you very much for your explanation. It is so awesome you have modified the relations of the structures inside your dick ^^ imagine, it is like engineering, dick engineering.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by igigi
Yes you can clearly feel it. The septum is the structure that connects the tunica of the 2 CC’s in the center. The tunica is not really like a sock on top of the 2 CC’s, but rather, is like if each CC has its own tunica. These 2 tunicas connect in the middle of the shaft, creating this tough hard cord that runs all the way to the glans. If you cut the penis in half and look at it from the front, the Septum will have the shape of a “T” Where these 2 tunica connect. At that point, is not hard and tough. But when you stretch the penis forward, as all the structures start to elongate, the last one to put resistance is this “T” in the middle. And also as you pull out the penis, this T elongates becoming more like a thick cord.

The best way to feel the septum, as you stretch your penis forward with one hand, use your other hand to touch around everywhere. You will notice that on top of the penis there sis a thick tendon or connective tissue that doesnt allow you to pull further. That is the Tunica.

When the limitation of the Tunica is severe, as it was in my case, you stretch your penis forward, and as you touch the tunica on the sides of the penis, they are lose. Almost hanging there like if they were not stretched at all. Same with the CS, as I touched it it was relaxed. However, on top of my penis I was feeling this tendon like structure preventing me from pulling more. So all my other structures have grown around, except for this one.

Now, after adding 2 centimeters to the Septum, when I pull out, all the other structures are almost evenly pulled out too.

So when you asked how people know this is the limiting factor, well, in my case for example as I explained, when putting tension on my penis, all the other structures were still almost relaxed while the only section of the penis that was hard under tension, was this cord in the center of it, the septum. And of course for years I tried multiple ways to stretch it or loosen it unsuccessfully. In fact, the more you fight it, the tougher it gets.


Perfectly put. Only one thing to add.

Some of us have born with the issue, it had not developed by PE gains. Thats why I went to explore these techniques in the first place.
I can quarantee that I would not have gained any length to the top of 1cm I had gained 20 years ago. Conventional methods are dead end for some of us to start with.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

In fact, all this research made majestically by Kyrpa, changes the complete game of PE.

Suddenly, we have to revise all existing exercises and protocols based on newly applied science due to the fact that the different structures inside the penis react to exercises in different ways depending on the type of tissue.

I believe this allow use to apply exercises and routines in a far more smart way than considered before.

Also based on my own recent experience with US, I have learned how important is to isolate the different structures rather than applying stress in the whole penis. Surely, compound exercises that involves the complete shaft have their place, but in reality we need to exercise independent structures like Septum, tunica, CC’s. Its similar to exercise a large muscle group in bodybuilding. You do some compounds movements that will involve the whole group plus supporting muscles, then you combine your routine with more specific exercises that will target the different muscles of the same group.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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