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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Awesome results.

Wow, congratulations!

I’m exited to follow you US guys.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Excellent work, I’m in the early stages of an US routine myself and so far it is looking very promising. I know you are concentrating on length for now, as I am too, but could you please describe what your girth protocol was that you found to be successful in the past?

Thanks
R


Oct 2011: BPEL 6.38" MSEG 4.72"

March 2017: BPEL 7.4" MSEG 5.25"

June 2018: BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5 3/8"

Is there any tread to read about this US thing? I’m totally ignorant about it.

Originally Posted by Omnia

Is there any tread to read about this US thing? I’m totally ignorant about it.

You’ll find everything you need here on Kyrpa’s thread. It’s a long read, but well worth it.

Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by igigi
Today I had officially entered a complete new territory in length. My penis never stretched this far in my life, and today the UltraSound therapy marks for me an absolutely shocking revolutionary treatment for PE. It is truly a dream come true.

Initial BPFSL: 22.9cm
Final BPFSL: 24cm
Strain: 4.8%

I experienced a HUGE strain today. I believe I know the reason. I had perfected the management of load and strain during the relaxation process both without US and with US. Second, during the US stretching, I concentrated in tolerating higher temperature. I did not measure, however I endured the burning sensation on the leg. It doesnt go any further. I believe by enduring the pain I was able to increase the temperature in the septum. Also another detail, being this the second day that I paid close attention to put the septum flush against my leg, I believe succeeded perfectly. The full concentration of the sound waves was hitting the Septum and the surface of my leg.

This is extremely exciting and motivating and I am so glad I can share my experience with everybody.

Since I have been reading these threads for so long, seeing so many members questioning the process, proposing variables, wondering about theories, my answer has always been the same: Kyrpa PROVED beyond any doubt, that what he did was correct and yielded remarkable results. Why not AT THE VERY LEAST carbon copy what he did in order to replicate his experience instead of “wondering” other things without any scientific base? This has been my whole approach, plus specific improvements that have been discusses between Kyrpa and Tutt.

The foot looks closer and closer in the horizon.

Igigi, what force or amount of weight are you using during each of your cycles to achieve the strain percentages you’re getting? Also, you’re using Kyrpa’s “over the leg” technique, what are the other features to your set-up? Vacuum cup? Pully? Scale? Etc.

What Ultrasound device are you using?

Originally Posted by DaytonaJonah
Igigi, what force or amount of weight are you using during each of your cycles to achieve the strain percentages you’re getting? Also, you’re using Kyrpa’s “over the leg” technique, what are the other features to your set-up? Vacuum cup? Pully? Scale? Etc.

Yes that would be very interesting to know. Igigi can you add more details you can about your cycles? How long does one session last? What extender do you use? After how many cycles do you think to have your decon-break?
Finally, do you think the US approach is something that should be done just by experts/people with tough septum or is it for newbies too?
If it works for length (combining US or IR lamp with extender) why shouldn’t work for girth too? maybe combining US/IR + pump

Originally Posted by Ramrod360
Excellent work, I’m in the early stages of an US routine myself and so far it is looking very promising. I know you are concentrating on length for now, as I am too, but could you please describe what your girth protocol was that you found to be successful in the past?

Thanks
R

For girth in the past I used a protocol of PGE-1 and transdermal dihydrotestosterone. Injecting PGE-1 to induce an erection of at least 5-6 hours, wearing an extender for about 3 hours, then 2 hours of low pressure pumping.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Omnia
Is there any tread to read about this US thing? I’m totally ignorant about it.

Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum (p. 42)
Manko007’s road to big dick land (p. 5)
Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE (p. 5)


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by DaytonaJonah
Igigi, what force or amount of weight are you using during each of your cycles to achieve the strain percentages you’re getting? Also, you’re using Kyrpa’s “over the leg” technique, what are the other features to your set-up? Vacuum cup? Pully? Scale? Etc.

I am using no more than 4kg of weight, all this provided via bungee cord that I push down with my leg. Basically my setup right now is very rudimentary, but somehow I managed it to perfect it and master it for the relaxation.

Basically I attach a vacuum cup on my glans, then an analog fishing scale, then from there the bungee cord that I wrap around my foot like if it was a gas pedal. I run the whole thing down the side of my leg. That way the shaft rest on top of my quad.

I begin with 25-30 minutes of cold stretching with an IR lamp. This lamp has nothing special, bought cheap off ebay, the good thing is that it comes with its own stand and wheels and I can adjust it at the high and distance I desire. I only using for heating. For warming up the tissues during this cold phase. I start with a tension of only 1kg. Every about 5 minute, I increase the tension. Slowly building my way up to 2.5kg during this 25-30 minutes. (25-30 depending on how much time I have)

Once that cold phase of 25-30 minutes is over and I have reached 2.5kg, I apply the US gel and start US therapy. 20 minutes, working my way up to 4kg slowly while applying US the whole time all over the shaft. Slowly circular motion, from the very base to the top under the glans. Some people have asked about the silicon sleeve covering part of the shaft, the US waves go through perfectly fine over the silicon sleeve so I can cover the area under the glans.

And that leads me to your other question, YES, I am using Kyrpa’s technique over the leg and I found that to be VERY important. Not only because your own leg serves as tissue to receive sound waves, BUT the fact that you have so many terminal nerves on the skin of the leg, you can feel EXACTLY where the sound waves are hitting and with what intensity. It is extremely useful. Once you feel that burn in the spot in the leg, you know your targeting that surface, and that is why is important also the other detail about the position of the penis. The shaft has to be not only over the leg, but also twisted, so the dorsal side rest on top of the leg and the US us applied on the ventral side. This is because the toughest part of the septum is in the dorsal side. In a transverse cut of a diagram of the penis, the septum and tunica looks like a T, having the most dense part on the top.

That is my setup at the moment. I expect in the near future to upgrade it. Ideally, I will install a pulley under a table, at hight slightly lower than my leg sitting down. That way I sit parallel to that table, resting my penis on my leg, then from there attaching the vacuum cup, a fishing scale (upgrading to a cell clock digital scale), then a cable through the pulley. A cable clamp will be used to lock the cable in place before the pulley, that way I can properly and accurately measure relaxation.

Right now with my current setup I’m doing some hybrid load based on strain and creep.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by snave72
What Ultrasound device are you using?

Two US Pro 2000 2nd edition simultaneously. One of them is not enough to heat the entire penis, because remember the process is slow circular motion. So by the time you’re heating up the top half f your penis, the bottom half got cold again. You need two of them to work simultaneously and keep the entire apparatus as hot as possible.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Omnia
Yes that would be very interesting to know. Igigi can you add more details you can about your cycles? How long does one session last? What extender do you use? After how many cycles do you think to have your decon-break?
Finally, do you think the US approach is something that should be done just by experts/people with tough septum or is it for newbies too?
If it works for length (combining US or IR lamp with extender) why shouldn’t work for girth too? maybe combining US/IR + pump

Each session lasts no more than an hour. Is 25-30 minutes of cold stretch with IR lamp to warm up the tissues, then 20 minutes of US therapy. Add a few minutes to attach device, apply gel, clean gel and you have around an hour.

Im not sure how many cycles I will do before decon break yet, that is something I am discussing with Kyrpa mostly seeking his advice. The idea is NOT to wait until the gains stop, because that might be too late to avoid toughening of the tissues. I will update the info once I have that determination.

Yes, this should be done only by experienced people with the septum as limiting factor, OR people who were born with a tough septum and cant see gains otherwise. This therapy is strong. It really betas up your dick. It is important to have experience with PE so the tissues are conditioned to be handled this way.

In terms of US for girth, Kyrpa is currently doing some research about that. That is a completely unknown territory since this applied science by Kyrpa and others has been based on existing literature regarding the recovery, kinesiology, enlargement and growth of tendons, which closely resemble the penile tunicae. But when it comes to girth, that is a different structure unique to the penis, and there is not a lot of science applied to that.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Omnia
Yes that would be very interesting to know. Igigi can you add more details you can about your cycles? How long does one session last? What extender do you use? After how many cycles do you think to have your decon-break?
Finally, do you think the US approach is something that should be done just by experts/people with tough septum or is it for newbies too?
If it works for length (combining US or IR lamp with extender) why shouldn’t work for girth too? maybe combining US/IR + pump

Girth is more tricky. US is not the most ideal heating method when a pump is involved and stress is more difficult to monitor during a girth treatment. At the required heat levels a pump treatment is also quite a bit more risky. Surface tissues are highly prone to injury at high temps when high levels of vacuum are involved.

The best advice I can give you right now is to focus on restricted length (squashed) clamping with US. An apparatus can be assembled with some cable clamps, glue, and a caulk gun.

Todays’s results:

Initial BPFSL: 23cm
Final BPFSL: 23.6cm
Strain: 2.6%

Very interesting results compared to yesterday results. Still, yesterday was too much strain. Today, not enough. I believe I know the reason, it is again, the setup. Although I have perfected he management of load and stress, I noticed today that my penis was so tight and dry against my leg, that when I removed the setting, the print of my penis was on my leg wrinkling the skin while stretching. So I believe the friction between my penis and my leg is being too much, to the point that a portion of the load is being taken out of the shaft and passed to perhaps only the glans and some of the shaft. I will see the possibility maybe of adding silicone lube on the dorsal side agains the leg to facilitate things.

This is the end of my second cycle. Two days of rest follow.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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