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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by bigfin87
Maybe I wrote wrong because I am not native English speaker. I meant that in my first cycle my best strains were about 0.7 cm in length, I had lot of fluid build up and now matter how much I tried to squeeze it out there was always some. Now when I use gorilla tape to cover my whole glans I get zero fluid build up and my best strains have been only 0.4 cm. So maybe on my first cycle my best strains were only 0.5 cm if we count the fluid build up.

I try to increase my weight to 3.5 kg and see what happens. Of course there will be some kind of genetic max that I can’t get past of but I hope I haven’t reached it yet. By the way my BPEL is only 21.5 cm but my upward curve takes about 1.5 cm so measured with tailors tape I am 23 cm. My curve hasn’t straightened at all if any it has maybe grown a little.

I understand you my friend.

An advice, as far as strain, go by percentage instead of centimeters. Because the stain correlates to total length. So in other words, a strain of 0.5cm in a penis that is BPFSL 12cm is very good, while the same 0.5cm on a penis that is BPFSL 25cm is very little.

In terms of curve, my curve seems to finally being straightening up, but unfortunately for purposes of penetration we need to measure with the curve.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Todays results:

Pre BPFSL: 24.5cm
Post BPFSL: 24.9cm
Strain: 1.6%

For today I did the following variation: 1) corrected the bundle issue. Twisted the penis just enough to rest the septum over the leg. 2) 25 minutes cold creep/25 minutes US creep.

Pre BPFSL I labeled it as 24.5, but in reality it was closer to 24.6. Very hard to determine when we talk about 1mm variation, but I prefer to keep it on the conservative side and assume it as 24.5.

Strain was a tiny bit better today. At this point, I am entertaining the idea of increasing tension a little bit more by 1kg and assess the result.

As we have discussed before, as the penis grow, all our metrics start to come out of a “known” universe. For example, total tension of 4kg does not affect a penis of BPFSL 14cm in the same way as of a penis of BPFSL 25cm. Just like as mentioned before, the strain percentage on a smaller penis that gets a post BPFSL of 5mm is higher than the same gain on a larger penis.

We are still on an unknown ocean, but with an incredibly valuable base of information and knowledge to start. Eventually once we achieve sizes never imagined before, we will be able to take all these factors and put them on a mathematical equation to calculate the proper tension for each length and girth.

Tomorrow is the last day of this cycle, I will repeat a creep workout, very similar to the one today, but I will increase tension by 1kg.

P.S.: Gorilla tape functioned once again flawlessly to protect against potential blister.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi

Yes. I use a small cup that doesnt even cover the whole glans and a short sleeve to expose as much penis to heat as possible.

Ok thank-you. Is the sleeve tight and or thick?


"Relationships aren’t all about penetration." Mrs NicholasVan

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
Ok thank-you. Is the sleeve tight and or thick?

I was using a sleeve that I got from eBay many years ago, and what I liked about that is that I dont think it was silicone. It last3ed for a long time and was hard. Very hard, more like a rubber texture. But finally is breaking up. Now I am using 2 short silicone sleeves, one on top of the other to provide better retention.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

I was unable to perform in the past 2 days due to work volume.

Today, I have good news and bad news to report.

First the bad. As mentioned before, I replicated todays exercise based on creep, not on strain, and I increased the weight by 1kg reaching a maximum of a little over 5kg. Total weight is not absolutely accurate because you have to account for basket weight, rope friction, scale weight, etc. Anyways, as the tension increased beyond 4kg, the vacuum cup started sliding off towards the end of the therapy. I was about to finish the 25 mins of US portion when I felt it sliding and almost coming off. I had to stop US, hold the cup with my hand to release some tension and hold it there for 10 minutes for a mediocre cooldown. As a consequence, the slippage of the cup grabbed and peeled off the gorilla tape inside creating once a again, a new beloved blister. I will have to start naming these things like hurricanes.

Now on the positive side, the extra tension yielded positive results in terms of length, and I am positive that if I was successful at finishing the whole routine the proper way, I would be in the right track to resume proper strain percentage.

Todays numbers are:

Pre BPFSL: 24.7cm
Post BPFSL: 25.1cm
Strain: 1.6%

I was able this time to retain 2 extra mm since the last workout, and I have passed the 25cm mark for the first time. 25.1cm is 3mm shy from the romantic number 25.4cm which equals 10 inches.

On an interesting note, as we have discussed before, there are days in which the tunica is extra very relaxed and flexible. Even when I am off I constantly measure throughout the day to monitor any difference. Yesterday, was one of those days in which the tunica was very stretchy. As I pulled out I knew already. It measured close to 25cm. However, today my Pre BPFSL was 24.7cm

The reason for the cup slippage was not the cup itself, it is the shitty silicone sleeves. First, I dont know why and who started this silicone trend. I put my money again on bro-science. The people who started using this material over 10 years ago probably got the idea from sex toys which use silicone materials and silicone lubricants because probably relates to a “delicate” area of the body. It turns out when you apply science and exercise, not sexual arousal and pleasure, silicone does not do the job.

I will try to find once again the same sleeve I had before which was made of a tight more rubbery material. In fact something made out of a material similar to a bicycle inner tube would be great. Which just gave me an idea.

P.S. As mentioned before, the more the penis grow the harder will be to achieve those 3% strain. As it grows, in order to achieve the same percentage rate of strain, the more millimeters you need to stretch on each session which becomes physically impossible.

0.5mm of Post BPFSL on a penis 15cm Pre BPFSL equals 3.3% Strain. But the same 0.5mm of Post BPFSL on a penis 25cm Pre BPFSL equals only 2% which is good, but it gets lower and lower as the BPFSL grows.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Amazing gains.

Gorilla 🦍 tape, 😳.

Another blister, 😳.

I previously read about someone making
a vac hanger with a bike tire tube.

What about a simple soft rope noose like what zenhanger.com sells. seems easy to make. Maybe put the thin rope through a soft and flexible straw/tube like what they use for fish tanks but a bit thicker. Maybe a small piece of silicone sleeve on your shaft as an option. I want to try these options out when I start the US protocol in the very near future.

Heal Up Stronger


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by igigi
I was unable to perform in the past 2 days due to work volume.

Today, I have good news and bad news to report.

First the bad. As mentioned before, I replicated todays exercise based on creep, not on strain, and I increased the weight by 1kg reaching a maximum of a little over 5kg. Total weight is not absolutely accurate because you have to account for basket weight, rope friction, scale weight, etc. Anyways, as the tension increased beyond 4kg, the vacuum cup started sliding off towards the end of the therapy. I was about to finish the 25 mins of US portion when I felt it sliding and almost coming off. I had to stop US, hold the cup with my hand to release some tension and hold it there for 10 minutes for a mediocre cooldown. As a consequence, the slippage of the cup grabbed and peeled off the gorilla tape inside creating once a again, a new beloved blister. I will have to start naming these things like hurricanes.

Now on the positive side, the extra tension yielded positive results in terms of length, and I am positive that if I was successful at finishing the whole routine the proper way, I would be in the right track to resume proper strain percentage.

Todays numbers are:

Pre BPFSL: 24.7cm
Post BPFSL: 25.1cm
Strain: 1.6%

I was able this time to retain 2 extra mm since the last workout, and I have passed the 25cm mark for the first time. 25.1cm is 3mm shy from the romantic number 25.4cm which equals 10 inches.

On an interesting note, as we have discussed before, there are days in which the tunica is extra very relaxed and flexible. Even when I am off I constantly measure throughout the day to monitor any difference. Yesterday, was one of those days in which the tunica was very stretchy. As I pulled out I knew already. It measured close to 25cm. However, today my Pre BPFSL was 24.7cm

The reason for the cup slippage was not the cup itself, it is the shitty silicone sleeves. First, I dont know why and who started this silicone trend. I put my money again on bro-science. The people who started using this material over 10 years ago probably got the idea from sex toys which use silicone materials and silicone lubricants because probably relates to a “delicate” area of the body. It turns out when you apply science and exercise, not sexual arousal and pleasure, silicone does not do the job.

I will try to find once again the same sleeve I had before which was made of a tight more rubbery material. In fact something made out of a material similar to a bicycle inner tube would be great. Which just gave me an idea.

P.S. As mentioned before, the more the penis grow the harder will be to achieve those 3% strain. As it grows, in order to achieve the same percentage rate of strain, the more millimeters you need to stretch on each session which becomes physically impossible.

0.5mm of Post BPFSL on a penis 15cm Pre BPFSL equals 3.3% Strain. But the same 0.5mm of Post BPFSL on a penis 25cm Pre BPFSL equals only 2% which is good, but it gets lower and lower as the BPFSL grows.

Igigi that’s the same I have been thinking. In my first cycle my average strain was 2.09%. Now it’s 1.36% and I have almost 30 days to go. I have had some 0% strains with weight of 3 kilos that gave me excellent gains in my first cycle. Unfortunately it maybe that while our penises grow longer they also grow stronger. I have only used 3.4 kg in this cycle but it seems to me that I have to increase the weight I use. I have every single session listed in Excel table so it’s easy to analyse my cycles.

I would be really satisfied if I would ever get to 10” BPFSL but in these days every millimeter is very hard to gain.

With blisters I have learned that you can continue vacuum hanging even after two days from developing blood blister. You just have to pop the blister and add some cream that kills the bacteria. Then when you have to use vacuum hanger you apply few coatings of spray plaster and then put gorilla tape. When I started my second cycle I battled with two blisters about a month until I discovered spray plaster and gorilla tape (Thanks Igigi).

Originally Posted by Stixman
Amazing gains.

Gorilla 🦍 tape, 😳.

Another blister, 😳.

I previously read about someone making
a vac hanger with a bike tire tube.

What about a simple soft rope noose like what zenhanger.com sells. seems easy to make. Maybe put the thin rope through a soft and flexible straw/tube like what they use for fish tanks but a bit thicker. Maybe a small piece of silicone sleeve on your shaft as an option. I want to try these options out when I start the US protocol in the very near future.

Heal Up Stronger

Thanks brother. Kyrpa developed a very nice sturdy noose style traction device. I am tempted to try that option, I just dont have the time these days to locate to find the materials and work on it, but eventually will well get over this blister situation.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by bigfin87
Igigi that’s the same I have been thinking. In my first cycle my average strain was 2.09%. Now it’s 1.36% and I have almost 30 days to go. I have had some 0% strains with weight of 3 kilos that gave me excellent gains in my first cycle. Unfortunately it maybe that while our penises grow longer they also grow stronger. I have only used 3.4 kg in this cycle but it seems to me that I have to increase the weight I use. I have every single session listed in Excel table so it’s easy to analyse my cycles.

I would be really satisfied if I would ever get to 10” BPFSL but in these days every millimeter is very hard to gain.

With blisters I have learned that you can continue vacuum hanging even after two days from developing blood blister. You just have to pop the blister and add some cream that kills the bacteria. Then when you have to use vacuum hanger you apply few coatings of spray plaster and then put gorilla tape. When I started my second cycle I battled with two blisters about a month until I discovered spray plaster and gorilla tape (Thanks Igigi).

Well, our penises should not necessarily grow stronger, because that is what we are trying to avoid by stress relaxation and/or by incremental tension on creep. In my case, my septum was already very strong. I stopped growing length some 10 years ago and after that I kept trying multiple approaches that only grew my tissues even stronger.

My lower strain in not in reality a mystery or a surprise. During P1 I started at around 3kg, then went up to 4kg, and more than half of the Period was made with sessions under 6-7kg of tension. This time, I purposely started with even lower tension, have kept to moderate at 4kg maximum, and only in the last session I increased to 5kg which provided better results.

I have been just trying to find the spot of progress under the least amount of weight. Not only to prevent blisters, but also to avoid at all costs putting the tissues under too much stress and create inflammation.

Now that you mention spray plaster, I have something similar. Its called second skin or something like that. I have been thinking about applying the tape and then seal everything with second skin. But first I need to get a better sleeve for better stronger seal and vacuum.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
For girth in the past I used a protocol of PGE-1 and transdermal dihydrotestosterone. Injecting PGE-1 to induce an erection of at least 5-6 hours, wearing an extender for about 3 hours, then 2 hours of low pressure pumping.

When you say induce an erection of at least 5-6 hours, is the erection all that was happening in that time? Or out of those 5-6 hours you spent 3 hours with an extender while erect? And 2 hours of low pressure pumping?

Just a little update, my beloved blister is almost fully closed. This one was deep so it took longer to seal. I have one tiny spot with a crust, it should fall off by tomorrow at which point I will resume protocol.

I have an old vacuum cup with its own sleeve that I never used before. I came up with an idea on how to better adapt it and secure it in place. Will give it a try and hopefully I can handle better tension with this one.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Amlodhi
When you say induce an erection of at least 5-6 hours, is the erection all that was happening in that time? Or out of those 5-6 hours you spent 3 hours with an extender while erect? And 2 hours of low pressure pumping?

Apologies did not see your reply before.

The latter. The erection was spent while using extender and pump.

However, PGE-1 has some amazing benefits. For example, even after the erection subsides, the penis stays very prone to get erected again, but this time in a natural fashion. While under PGE-1 the erection remains rock solid no matter what. Once the effect is gone, it gets very easy to have an erection after stimulation, and goers away naturally when stimulation stops. When sleeping, the nocturnal erections are rock solid as a side effect of PGE-1.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Back in business.

Today experiment was pretty pleasant. This vacuum cup behaved very well, while at the same time I applied a better coating of gorilla tape plus a layer of liquid bandaid on top. Everything stayed sealed in place.

Results:

Pre BPFSL: 24.8cm
Post BPFSL: 25.2cm
Strain: 1.6%

I am clearly at this point pulling tissues other than the septum. Towards the last 5 minutes of the US heated portion I could feel a tender sensation in the corpus spongosium.

I am slowly crawling up millimeter by millimeter, but of course each one of them counts. As in the last session, I reached a maximum of 5.1-5.3kg (5kg in weights, extra weight accounting for basket, scale, rope tension)

It seems like this cycle will be a normal cycle, that means sessions for the next following 2 days, followed by 2 rest days.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

I have a question, been having issues gaining length for years. Read about ultra sound some years ago and am now thinking about getting a device. Anyone you recommend besides the US 2000? Price isn’t much of an issue, and maybe I should go for a 3 MHz if there is a good one available? Thanks

Originally Posted by Kingkongsdong
I have a question, been having issues gaining length for years. Read about ultra sound some years ago and am now thinking about getting a device. Anyone you recommend besides the US 2000? Price isn’t much of an issue, and maybe I should go for a 3 MHz if there is a good one available? Thanks

The Soundcare Plus is a good machine which has 1 and 3Mhz of frequency. Way more expensive than US Pro 2000. Now, most of us have had great success with the US Pro 2000, so in terms of comparison, I couldnt tell you if it is worth it to get the Soundcare simply because as far as I know theres only 1 or 2 members who have used it.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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