Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

That’s a long long way from the start already. Great!

The measurement will fluctuate during the workout days , that’s for sure.
I have found that measuring at the second rest day, or the pre workout measurement of the first day of the following cycle is the most
accurate. That is the meaningful measurement for deciding if we have gained or not during the cycle.

Measurements during the workout cycle have only relative significance for the monitoring of each exercise, more or less.

I appreciate your input my friend.

I have been contemplating about the frequency of the workouts. I believe it was Tutt who preferred more sporadic therapies according to his penis.

What made me think about this is 2 things: first, this experience that repeats from P1 in which sometimes in the middle of the cycle the tissues dont respond well, and second the fact that interestingly enough, I never seem to lose too much from one cycle to the next. In fact, I usually keep it all. As you mention, the most accurate BPFSL is the one right before the first day of the next cycle, and usually I keep all the gains from the previous cycle. This made me wonder, what if instead of 3 on 2 off, try something like 1 on 2 off. I know, very sporadic, but the fact that I tend to keep most of it, this would give plenty of rest to the tissues.

I am not going to attempt this yet, I will observe closely the progress during the next 2-3 cycles and make a determination. This might be just a little bump on the road.

It is plausible that there is no need for three consecutive workouts. Is one enough and how often is a question mark.

Instead of shortening the cycle I suggest to keep the cycle in 4-5 days.
I attached a graph showing not such a pattern you are seeing. Instead I am seeing the steps in elongation coming in 5 days pattern more than with the first workout of the cycle.

Here is an example how it has been developing. Rest of the periods showing very similar.

We don’t know if we need 1, 2 or 3 days of workouts, but for me it looks like the tissue needs more than three days to grow permanently, including the rest. And for me the two days rest is the minimum.

Keep in mind the Tutt cycle is longer than 1on 2 off.

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Thank you Kyrpa, highly interesting to be living these remarkable days.

Apologies for the absence. Since I took those last 2-3 days off, I had a highly busy wee of work including a short trip out of town, but I am back today.

Pre BPFSL: 24.5cm
Post BPFSL: 24.8cm
Strain: 1.2%

I achieved a slightly better strain.

Today I tried a longer therapy. 35 mins of stress relaxation plus 25 mins of US stress relaxation. starting at 1kg, up to 3.8kg. As a consequence of the longer time under tension and the de-conditioning of the glans after so many days off, I developed a new blister outside of the gorilla tape. However, the gorilla tape will patch the area tomorrow. In fact, I have been thinking in the idea of establishing as part of the protocol to always completely seal the glans with gorilla tape since it has been extraordinary at protecting against blisters, and even protecting over existing blisters.

Could the longer therapy be the reason for the better strain? Maybe, but I will rather increase time slowly. Tomorrow I will do the standard 30 mins relaxation plus 25 mins US.

One thing I have observed these past few days, is the interesting phenomenon of tissue relaxation. I measure constantly myself during the off days. I have already retained permanently 0.5cm during this Period, and I am positive that I will keep adding length during these next few weeks. But about the relaxation, some days, some moments the penis pulls back harder than other times.

As I explained before, the best way to measure and “treat” your penis, is to never pull hard violently out. Never. Wether is exercise or measuring, I learned the best most friendly way to make him cooperate is to gran the glans, take a deep breath, exhale slowly, and start pulling out very slowly in a very controlled way. Relax your muscles as you do so. If by any means you feel your penis tugging on you or hard to pull, stop. Go back a couple of centimeters, wait 2-3 seconds, pull out very slowly again until finally will extend. You can indeed pull hard and fast and extend it all, but it has a counterproductive impact on multiple tissues.

With that being said, there are some days in which my penis tugs on me. I have to slowly retreat and try agains 2-3 times sometimes, and I barely reach in this case the past week the 24.5cm.

But other days, other moments, my penis is very relaxed. And as I pull, it comes out like a telescope very smooth and easy reaching easily the 24.5, sometimes even 24.6-7.

Anyways, I am glad to be back on therapy. I will be happy to reach for the first time the 25cm mark soon, and getting closer to the 25.4cm mark which equals exactly 10 inches of phallic apparatus.

Good call on the gorilla tape. I really hope your glands don’t get more blisters.

Overall, how’s the new setup? From what I gather, your strain hasn’t been as high as your previous OTL set up?

I too measure my flaccid length exactly as you described. Slow and steady does win the race!

From a “professional” perspective, the new setup is light years ahead in reliability and science.

As far as the strain, you are correct. My strain right now is a lot less compared to my first Period. During my first period even at the end the strain was very good. Now, what has it changed? The following key 2 elements are different compared to my first Period.

First, amount of tension. I have on purposed kept it on the lower end in order to properly track stress relaxation and temperature. During my first period I was reaching up to 7kg of tension, but towards the end I was having too many problems with bloody blisters.

Second, Strain. During my whole first Period I worked on Creep, not on Strain. This time, I am going by strain.

I have the following tests to do: I will do one session based on Creep instead of Strain. Even though being conscious that this goes against literature, but as an experiment. I will use same tension, but following Creep, not Strain. The other test is to increase tension. I will attempt to reach 5kg and see if that brings any change.

For now, I am taking baby steps on the safe side and that is great. We have plenty or room to use variables.

So in the previous campaign you took the load to 7KG? Did you see incremental benefit all the way there?

Well, the data of every single day measurement (that is why is imperative to measure every single day pre and post workout) Shows a higher strain than this Period. Even all the way to the last few days. This is why that higher strain can be due to either higher tension or creep instead of strain.

I was supposed to start my third cycle today, but my blister skin came off exposing fresh raw glans. I will give it another day hopefully to heal.

I have decided to do the next this next workout based entirely on creep with smaller tension and assess the results.

Great log igigi, I haven’t been able to read through the whole thing yet. Is the weight/stress adjusted based on the previous strain %? What % of strain do you target or think is optimal? Do you keep track of or adjust for the glans expansion from vacuum (or assume it is constant)?

Thanks man.

Weight yes can be adjusted based on previous strain. Conventionally we have spoken about a strain of 3.0% to be optimal and maximum. So if strain in the first few session surpass 3%, weight should be decreased. And I strain is significantly less than 3%, weight can be increased, granted all other variables have been checked out.

In regards to glans expansion, it was a concern at the beginning, but at least in my personal case it turned out to be irrelevant for statistics. There will always be a very slight deviation caused by glans swelling, but it is minimum and in the greater skim of things has no influence. When you measure 2 full centimeters of gain at the end of a 6 week period, you know those are not 2 centimeters of glans LOL. It would look like a deformed snake. Also the fact that measuring the next day gave me usually the same reading most of the time, made me realize that the glans expansion was almost zero. Or 1mm at most. It expands more sideways than longway.

Sorry to ask such a n00b question, but how are you using ultrasound?

I was thinking ultrasound could be effective myself but don’t pretend to know how to safely apply ultrasound to my penis.
I have an ultrasonic mister and I know that would outright damage my penis immediately.

I have seen what that does to a bic pen dipped into the water, the plastic becomes destroyed rapidly.

So do you apply the ultrasound when you stretch, and what device do you use to apply the ultrasound?

Hello there,

I am not sure what is a ultrasonic mister, but it sounds like an industrial device lol. I have used before an ultrasonic cleaner, but this is completely different. We are using devices designed for human use with specifications suitable for skin, bones, cartilage, ligaments, tendons. The specific transducer is the US Pro 2000 Second Edition.

If you search on youtube how to apply ultrasound, the way the videos explain is exactly the way I apply it on myself. Wether is wrist, knee, a muscle, the application is the same on the penis. Of course, you should not apply or point it towards testicles, prostate, etc, but that is a very basic common sense that shouldn’t even have the need to be mentioned.

Update.

Since developing the blister the last time, I have not been able to go back on therapy. The blister finally sealed completely yesterday, but it is still too early to apply that amount of vacuum pressure on the tissue. I will wait for the weekend to resume.

I know Rocco has been enthusiastically recommending me to use baby powder. I will try that, but not before trying a different approach. Since gorilla tape worked perfect at sealing previous blister spots, I will try this time to seal the whole glans with gorilla tape, or at least most of it and assess the results.

Also, this next workout will be done entirely on creep. At a later experiment, I will do cold stress relaxation on strain and US portion on creep.

Babypowder was the enabler for me to use vac. Before that, every attempt ended up in blisters. Hopefully, my positive experience works well for you, too. I use it in combination with a silicon cap with a small pin hole on the bottom of the cap.

That is an interesting test. I was surprised to see the little strains you reached in P2. Hopefully creep will make it better. If so, we need to understand why.
In my P1, I worked in a similar way. Part 1 was partly SR and partly creep (I was fixing the rope with my fingers as good as I could). Under US, I worked with pure creep.