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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Hey guys. Are we having a verdict on US heating after you’ve stalled on gains?

The information I’ve summed up shows US heat will yield .5 to 1.0” of additional stretch length within 30-45 days. Even after the first session men are saying it stretches out a couple additional mm.

However in the cases I’ve watched all of this additional stretch length did not translate into BPEL. It was approximately half the cases that the new BPSFL increase showed up in BPEL.

I wanted comments and other perception.

Also is the US heating giving additional flaccid and EQ?

Originally Posted by djrobins
Hey guys. Are we having a verdict on US heating after you’ve stalled on gains?

The information I’ve summed up shows US heat will yield .5 to 1.0” of additional stretch length within 30-45 days. Even after the first session men are saying it stretches out a couple additional mm.

However in the cases I’ve watched all of this additional stretch length did not translate into BPEL. It was approximately half the cases that the new BPSFL increase showed up in BPEL.

I wanted comments and other perception.

Also is the US heating giving additional flaccid and EQ?

Hi my friend,

First, I would like to see the data sheets of those subjects who have ran a second, a third and perhaps a fourth period. But I have not seen it in order to debug and analyze what you mention. We lack too much information and feedback. This is why I am concentrated now in running my next period with everything needed to properly track and log results and progress and do a third, a fourth and as many periods as it takes to keep growing.

With that being said, I know Kyrpa has ran more than 2 or 3 periods. Second period had less gains than the first, third period was more like a recovery one after losing some length.

You are correct, there are mixed results in terms of BPEL. Some easily see BPEL coming behind BPFSL, others see less, others like me see nothing. I gained 0.5cm in BPEL and that was by post exercising after my first period. However, I have the feeling that at some point BPEL has to follow BPFSL, and that is why I am committed to continue with this therapy.

Again, if we had all the data standardized in the spreadsheet already offered, we could easily compare each case and perhaps start cataloguing the different cases.

As far as flaccid and EQ, yes I saw and increase in flaccid since that is a direct result of the BPFSL increase. No difference in EQ, although my EQ is excellent naturally so I wouldn’t be able to tell.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
With that being said, I know Kyrpa has ran more than 2 or 3 periods. Second period had less gains than the first, third period was more like a recovery one after losing some length.

Hi igigi,

It was definitely more than 3 periods and the first two produced similar results, but Krypa trained to girth after about 55 days on the 3rd period:
Limit found with this period(P3) for stretched elongation to be 24,1cm post exercise
Period 3 (P3) wrap up

After P4 he took a longer break, the losses of which he made up with P5.
Post decon recuperation (Period 5)

Originally Posted by igigi
I have already acquired almost all the necessary equipment to setup my next US period.

How do you want to initiate the pulling force in your next period? Do you continue with vacuum? If so, I would advise you to powder the glans with baby powder. Maybe you remember that I had big problems with vacuum. After I presented my self-built “torture instrument” in another thread, there were concerns from you, among others, about the blood stasis. This has made me very thoughtful and I have once again dealt with the issue of vacuum. The solution for me lies in the baby powder in conjunction with the closed silicone cap over the glans. Even 5 kg (when cooling) now works with vacuum. Before that would have been unthinkable.

I write this to you because I remember you had problems with blisters in your P1. Maybe you can avoid them with the baby powder. I have already linked the source of this idea in another post:
Prevent blisters wIth vac-hanging

Hopefully this will help you.

Originally Posted by Rocco25
Hi igigi,

It was definitely more than 3 periods and the first two produced similar results, but Krypa trained to girth after about 55 days on the 3rd period:
Limit found with this period(P3) for stretched elongation to be 24,1cm post exercise
Period 3 (P3) wrap up

After P4 he took a longer break, the losses of which he made up with P5.
Post decon recuperation (Period 5)

How do you want to initiate the pulling force in your next period? Do you continue with vacuum? If so, I would advise you to powder the glans with baby powder. Maybe you remember that I had big problems with vacuum. After I presented my self-built “torture instrument” in another thread, there were concerns from you, among others, about the blood stasis. This has made me very thoughtful and I have once again dealt with the issue of vacuum. The solution for me lies in the baby powder in conjunction with the closed silicone cap over the glans. Even 5 kg (when cooling) now works with vacuum. Before that would have been unthinkable.

I write this to you because I remember you had problems with blisters in your P1. Maybe you can avoid them with the baby powder. I have already linked the source of this idea in another post:
Prevent blisters wIth vac-hanging

Hopefully this will help you.

Thanks for those links about Kyrpa’s experience my friend, I will read them later more carefully.

In regards to the vacuum, thank you again so much for the advises and links. I will take a look. Although, I never had blister problems with low weights. By low weights I mean 2, 2.5, maybe even 3kg. It was only when I started experimenting with loads of 4kg and up that I started developing blisters. We will see,.

For this next period I plan to keep the weight at a maximum of 2.5kg. The reason for that is that during my first period I did not properly and carefully monitored strain and tension. I was increasing weight in a timely manner ad by “feel” of pull which is not an accurate measurement. This time I have the proper equipment to monitor tension and strain in real time as accurate as possible, and as long as I see the desired rate of tension and strain, I will not increase weight. Less is more in this game.

It is still all experimental, we will see how things turn out. Planning on starting in 2 weeks.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Thanks for those links about Kyrpa’s experience my friend, I will read them later more carefully.

In regards to the vacuum, thank you again so much for the advises and links. I will take a look. Although, I never had blister problems with low weights. By low weights I mean 2, 2.5, maybe even 3kg. It was only when I started experimenting with loads of 4kg and up that I started developing blisters. We will see,.

For this next period I plan to keep the weight at a maximum of 2.5kg. The reason for that is that during my first period I did not properly and carefully monitored strain and tension. I was increasing weight in a timely manner ad by “feel” of pull which is not an accurate measurement. This time I have the proper equipment to monitor tension and strain in real time as accurate as possible, and as long as I see the desired rate of tension and strain, I will not increase weight. Less is more in this game.

It is still all experimental, we will see how things turn out. Planning on starting in 2 weeks.

Blistering is related to time in the vacuuum head. HIgher weight loading can make it happen quicker. In my circumstance and a few of the other guys we are limiting vacuum cup to 1hr, and it took some time to build up to this point. Blisters on me start somewhere between 1 and 2 hrs, so I limit it at 1 hrs tops. Remove the vacuum head, jelq some blood into the unit, put it back on 5 minutes or so later. Earlier in my PE career blisters started somewhere a little over 30 minutes.

Originally Posted by djrobins
Blistering is related to time in the vacuuum head. HIgher weight loading can make it happen quicker. In my circumstance and a few of the other guys we are limiting vacuum cup to 1hr, and it took some time to build up to this point. Blisters on me start somewhere between 1 and 2 hrs, so I limit it at 1 hrs tops. Remove the vacuum head, jelq some blood into the unit, put it back on 5 minutes or so later. Earlier in my PE career blisters started somewhere a little over 30 minutes.

It makes sense what you say. So it is a time build up thing, and of course with more weight that timer will run faster.

Following the standardized US routine, I will spend 60 minutes in the vacuum cup. 30 for stress relaxation, 20 under US, 10 to cool down. I recall not having issues with blisters when I started my first trials at low weight. I only started having problems once I increased the load to 4kg and up.

Curious on how this will come out. I’ll be out of town for the first week of April, on my return I will be preparing for lunch.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

As I prepare to start my Second period, this time in a more “professional” way with a fully functioning setup, I wanted to share with everybody what I have put together in efforts to follow the science, monitor, track and log all the variables required for successful UltraSound therapy. The main components to track and follow and strain and temperature.

Keep in mind, this is what I personally came up with. Components are very simple, easy to find, most of them have been talked about here before, follow and read the threads, and with minimum imagination and basic google search skills you can put together a fully functioning setup suitable for your space and conditions.

With that being said, the first thing to determine is where to perform the daily routine. In my case, I do it in my kitchen. I have a big kitchen island, I sit on a high pretty much bar high chain that puts my legs some 8 inches below the counter top.

Therefore as you can see in these 2 pictures, under the counter top is where I will install the pulley. Under the countertop is wood material, making it very easy to screw hook large enough to sustain the required weight. In the picture the red dot indicates approximately where the pulley will be installed. Since my legs will be on top of the chair, my penis will be leaning over my left leg, towards the red dot. Now keep in mind, the penis has to be flush with the leg pretty much horizontal with the pulley. The pulley I am using is 5 inches long, plus the hook on the countertop will be some 6 inches hanging down which puts me very close horizontal with my phallic apparatus. If height adjustment was necessary, this can be accomplished very easily by adding an S-hook in between the pulley and the countertop hook in order to lower the pulley. If the pulley was already too low and needed to go up, I can remove the carabineer clip and install a smaller s-hook. Again, you will have to play with your variables, reality, conditions.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

After the therapy area has been identified, now it comes the necessary equipment for the exercise itself. The first thing on the penis itself, is temperature monitoring. For that, I am using a K-type device with 4 thermocouple. All 4 monitor temperature simultaneously in real time. Thermocouples will be installed on dorsal side, directly on top of the septum on centimeter 2, 7, 12 and 17 respectively. In order to secure them I will use small square pieces of gorilla tape.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Now onto what is coming out of the penis. I will be using a vacuum cup, same one I was using before, it is a smaller size that covers 90% of my glans. That way I get as much shaft exposed as possible to treat with heat. Immediately out of the vacuum cup I will have a set of 6 short rubber bands that act as a buffer. Or cushioning. It is required to stay still as much as possible during this therapy, but we are not dead bodies. There will be some unavoidable movement, vibration, etc. In order to diminish as much as possible these up and down variations in tension due to involuntary movement, is that I have come up with the idea of the rubber bands. Picture the suspension system of a car. Without it, it would be an extremely rough ride, like being inside an earthquake. The suspension in the car makes a smooth ride. Same principle behind the 6 rubber bands. Why 6? because I tested them holding them in one finger and the scale on the other side, then pulling 2-3kg to asses response and behavior. 6 of them provide optimal buffering. Where did I get them? from the garbage at work. They were packaging material. As mentioned before, you need to come up with your own ideas according to your setup, reality, conditions.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

After the rubber bands I have the scale that will be monitoring tension, strain. This one device is excellent, it has been mentioned several times in Kyrpa’s thread, is very affordable, and has the option to stay on eternally measuring tension in real time at all times.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Following the scale will finally come the cable or rope. I do not have this item yet, simply because I believe I will use just a nylon rope. Thick and strong enough too sustain up to 5kg of weight, and thin enough to go through the small pulley.

And of course here is the pulley where the rope will go through.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Finally, at the end of the rope there will be the weight. Since we are monitoring strain, and working on stress relaxation, I will be using balance weights. Each piece is 200 grams, which makes it very easy and convenient to increase tension gradually and work on strain. And since this is all experimentation, perhaps even weight of only 100 grams would be better, but based on my experience during my first period, I have confidence that increments of 200 grams will be ok. I have not received the weights yet, they are being shipped, but the way this will work, I will use a basket hanging from the end of the rope, and I will simply add the weight into the basket as required to increase tension. I ordered 3.5kg in balance weights which I believe will be more than enough for the desired Strain during the therapy on each session.

So the components together will look something like this: The vacuum cup, the rubber bands (actually in the picture is scale first, then rubber bands, I have not fully decided yet in which order they will be, I believe it will be vacuum cup and rubber bands first, then scale) rope, pulley, weights. That is the sequence. And of course the thermometer device on the penis.

Keep in mind, you need space. In my case I have 24cm of penis, plus the vacuum cup, plus the rubber bands (4cm), plus the scale (18cm including its hook), that is a total of some 46cm, some foot and a half plus connecting s-hooks in between before the rope even starts. So when you design your own setup, take into account all that necessary space to determine how far you install the pulley.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Once I receive the weights I will put everything together, install it and take pictures of the whole apparatus. It is not complex, it just requires the proper tools, spacing and measurements to make it work properly.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Yes with that protocol I went from around 5.2” to 6.25” in one year. This next time I plan on adding clamping too as a way to push the tissues a little bit more since my length is growing finally once again.

Wow amazing progress, this was your daily routine for girth for a year? In terms of the DHT gel did you make it from stratch?

Many thanks for your hard work.

Originally Posted by shrimpingsnacks
Wow amazing progress, this was your daily routine for girth for a year? In terms of the DHT gel did you make it from stratch?

Many thanks for your hard work.

No, the DHT I bought it made, but later I realized the DHT had nothing to do with my gains. DHT makes no difference whatsoever in penis size unless you are a woman or a male born with microphallus.

This routine yes I did it for a year, but not strictly daily. I wish I had all that time to just pull my dick lol. As an average I would say I did it some 3-4 times a week. The growth came form the extended high pressure elections. In other words, controlled priapism.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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