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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by Chemgains
So as an overall what’s the difference between using in infrared lamp and ultrasound therapy or can they both be used at different times to max results or is it a case of pick one?

The difference is that the infrared heats from outside in. The Ultrasound heats from inside out. That means, with the infrared in order to reach the desired internal temperature, you almost need to fry your skin. It is not effective. I still use infrared as an overall heating aid in order to not start and do everything in complete cold state. However, for therapeutic internal temperature Ultrasound is necessary.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
The difference is that the infrared heats from outside in. The Ultrasound heats from inside out. That means, with the infrared in order to reach the desired internal temperature, you almost need to fry your skin. It is not effective. I still use infrared as an overall heating aid in order to not start and do everything in complete cold state. However, for therapeutic internal temperature Ultrasound is necessary.

Any updates on when you will start another 6 week period ? Also weren’t you preparing for closing the gap between BPEL - BPFSL ?

With PGE-1 induced overnight erections or did you already closed that gap and gained BPEL ?

Originally Posted by DutchAthletic92
Any updates on when you will start another 6 week period ? Also weren’t you preparing for closing the gap between BPEL - BPFSL ?

With PGE-1 induced overnight erections or did you already closed that gap and gained BPEL ?

Hey my friend,

As far as the next period, I am not sure yet. My work requires a lot of traveling, international, and now since many countries are reopening their facilities, I am swamped with a wave of work. But I expect it to settle down a bit in the next maybe couple of months.

In regards to BPEL, I have been experimenting only with the night erections assisted with PGE-1, but it hasn’t lead to more gains besides the 0.5 cm initially. I will soon incorporate a daily routine based on jelquing, clamping, bends.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Hey my friend,

As far as the next period, I am not sure yet. My work requires a lot of traveling, international, and now since many countries are reopening their facilities, I am swamped with a wave of work. But I expect it to settle down a bit in the next maybe couple of months.

In regards to BPEL, I have been experimenting only with the night erections assisted with PGE-1, but it hasn’t lead to more gains besides the 0.5 cm initially. I will soon incorporate a daily routine based on jelquing, clamping, bends.

Thank you for the update. That’s quite disappointing that the PGE stuff only helped with 0.5 cm gain.. I expected way more than that.

When you do one cycle of ultrasound hanging, is it possible to continue PE afterwards in order to close the BPEL gap or do you need some time off before starting on a routine that closes that gap ? What would you recommend?

Also that routine on closing the gap.. It looks like a heavy girth routine with jelqing, clamping, bending etc

Isn’t that counterproductive because we’re trying to gain length in the first place right ? Or is it necessary for progress.

Lol you might end up with 8+ inches in girth.

I am 5.7 inches girth and closing the gap would push me to 6+ Inches in girth. For how long would you need to work in closing BPEL gap ? How many weeks, months ? Until the gap is closed right ? I gain girth rather easy.

Originally Posted by DutchAthletic92
Thank you for the update. That’s quite disappointing that the PGE stuff only helped with 0.5 cm gain.. I expected way more than that.

When you do one cycle of ultrasound hanging, is it possible to continue PE afterwards in order to close the BPEL gap or do you need some time off before starting on a routine that closes that gap ? What would you recommend?

Also that routine on closing the gap.. It looks like a heavy girth routine with jelqing, clamping, bending etc

Isn’t that counterproductive because we’re trying to gain length in the first place right ? Or is it necessary for progress.

Lol you might end up with 8+ inches in girth.

I am 5.7 inches girth and closing the gap would push me to 6+ Inches in girth. For how long would you need to work in closing BPEL gap ? How many weeks, months ? Until the gap is closed right ? I gain girth rather easy.

Yes you can continue PE for BPEL while doing Ultrasound. In fact, Kyrpa originally had 2 workouts a day, one of them including US, the other was manual exercises. I believe is personal preference, AND/OR we might over some time while collecting more data be able to determine if perhaps is more productive to focus only on US, let the penis rest, then after the period dedicate to BPEL.

It is my personal preference for example to right not to worry at all about BPEL. I want to increase my BPFSL as much as possible because I have the perception that the bigger the gap, the more room for BPEL to grow.

In fact, when you mention the girth with that exercise routine, although I have no proof, I have the perception that by having a sufficient gap of BPFSL > BPEL, those same exercises will target primarily length, therefore leading of course to BPEL gains. Once the gap starts closing, then girth gains become more prominent, and it was my experience in the past.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

I found this study:

Ultrasound sound effects on testicles, apparently it renders your sperm inactive, you will get infertility

Therapeutic ultrasound as a potential male contraceptive: power, frequency and temperature required to deplete rat testes of meiotic cells and epididymides of sperm determined using a commercially available system | Reproductive Biology and Endocrinology | Full Text

Future studies will determine if our ultrasound treatment parameters result in a reversible loss of fertility as previously reported by Fahim. The treatment that was most effective at reducing epididymal sperm count (3 MHz, 2.2 W/cm2, two 15-minute treatments separated by two days with coupling medium temperature maintained at 37°C) represents an upper limit for applying ultrasound to the testes since thermal bio-effects were noted in some treated tubules. Results from Study 2 showed that relatively small changes in treatment conditions caused statistically significant changes in sperm count when assessed two weeks after treatment. Longer-term studies will be required to determine if those treatment conditions cause a progressive loss of spermatogenic cells that ultimately results in the depletion of epididymal sperm reserves. A major goal of our future studies will be to determine the "minimum effective dose" of ultrasound that induces a reversible loss of fertility.

In conclusion, our results demonstrate that a short exposure to therapeutic ultrasound is an effective method for depleting testes of spermatogenic cells and reducing epididymal sperm reserves within two weeks of treatment. The odds of conceiving decrease linearly when sperm concentrations are below 40 million sperm/ml [37] and effective contraception occurs when hormonal treatment or vasectomy cause sperm concentration to fall below 3 million sperm/ml [38, 39]. Our ability to use a widely available therapeutic ultrasound system to reduce motile sperm count below 5 million sperm per cauda epididymis just two weeks after treatment shows that therapeutic ultrasound holds great promise as the basis for a male contraceptive. Optimizing the treatment conditions, studying the safety of repeated use, the duration of the contraceptive effect and its reversibility and are the next required steps to establish whether therapeutic ultrasound can serve as the basis for a new, long term, reversible male contraceptive.

Originally Posted by DutchAthletic92
I found this study:

Ultrasound sound effects on testicles, apparently it renders your sperm inactive, you will get infertility

Therapeutic ultrasound as a potential male contraceptive: power, frequency and temperature required to deplete rat testes of meiotic cells and epididymides of sperm determined using a commercially available system | Reproductive Biology and Endocrinology | Full Text

Future studies will determine if our ultrasound treatment parameters result in a reversible loss of fertility as previously reported by Fahim. The treatment that was most effective at reducing epididymal sperm count (3 MHz, 2.2 W/cm2, two 15-minute treatments separated by two days with coupling medium temperature maintained at 37°C) represents an upper limit for applying ultrasound to the testes since thermal bio-effects were noted in some treated tubules. Results from Study 2 showed that relatively small changes in treatment conditions caused statistically significant changes in sperm count when assessed two weeks after treatment. Longer-term studies will be required to determine if those treatment conditions cause a progressive loss of spermatogenic cells that ultimately results in the depletion of epididymal sperm reserves. A major goal of our future studies will be to determine the "minimum effective dose" of ultrasound that induces a reversible loss of fertility.

In conclusion, our results demonstrate that a short exposure to therapeutic ultrasound is an effective method for depleting testes of spermatogenic cells and reducing epididymal sperm reserves within two weeks of treatment. The odds of conceiving decrease linearly when sperm concentrations are below 40 million sperm/ml [37] and effective contraception occurs when hormonal treatment or vasectomy cause sperm concentration to fall below 3 million sperm/ml [38, 39]. Our ability to use a widely available therapeutic ultrasound system to reduce motile sperm count below 5 million sperm per cauda epididymis just two weeks after treatment shows that therapeutic ultrasound holds great promise as the basis for a male contraceptive. Optimizing the treatment conditions, studying the safety of repeated use, the duration of the contraceptive effect and its reversibility and are the next required steps to establish whether therapeutic ultrasound can serve as the basis for a new, long term, reversible male contraceptive.


Keep it away from your testes.

Originally Posted by DutchAthletic92
I found this study:

Ultrasound sound effects on testicles, apparently it renders your sperm inactive, you will get infertility

Therapeutic ultrasound as a potential male contraceptive: power, frequency and temperature required to deplete rat testes of meiotic cells and epididymides of sperm determined using a commercially available system | Reproductive Biology and Endocrinology | Full Text

Future studies will determine if our ultrasound treatment parameters result in a reversible loss of fertility as previously reported by Fahim. The treatment that was most effective at reducing epididymal sperm count (3 MHz, 2.2 W/cm2, two 15-minute treatments separated by two days with coupling medium temperature maintained at 37°C) represents an upper limit for applying ultrasound to the testes since thermal bio-effects were noted in some treated tubules. Results from Study 2 showed that relatively small changes in treatment conditions caused statistically significant changes in sperm count when assessed two weeks after treatment. Longer-term studies will be required to determine if those treatment conditions cause a progressive loss of spermatogenic cells that ultimately results in the depletion of epididymal sperm reserves. A major goal of our future studies will be to determine the "minimum effective dose" of ultrasound that induces a reversible loss of fertility.

In conclusion, our results demonstrate that a short exposure to therapeutic ultrasound is an effective method for depleting testes of spermatogenic cells and reducing epididymal sperm reserves within two weeks of treatment. The odds of conceiving decrease linearly when sperm concentrations are below 40 million sperm/ml [37] and effective contraception occurs when hormonal treatment or vasectomy cause sperm concentration to fall below 3 million sperm/ml [38, 39]. Our ability to use a widely available therapeutic ultrasound system to reduce motile sperm count below 5 million sperm per cauda epididymis just two weeks after treatment shows that therapeutic ultrasound holds great promise as the basis for a male contraceptive. Optimizing the treatment conditions, studying the safety of repeated use, the duration of the contraceptive effect and its reversibility and are the next required steps to establish whether therapeutic ultrasound can serve as the basis for a new, long term, reversible male contraceptive.

Thanks for sharing.

Yeah that is why it is always advised to keep the US transducers away from the testicles, never pointing inside your body anywhere including head, eyes, etc. It is to be applied strictly and only in the areas in which therapeutic use has been studied for safety.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

A little comment to add, as I am currently not in my second period of US, I am though buying all the necessary stuff to setup a good cable/pulley system.

This time I’ll take pictures and maybe video of each component.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
This time I’ll take pictures and maybe video of each component.

Excellent, looking forward to seeing this.


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Originally Posted by LittleEngine

Excellent, looking forward to seeing this.

X 2


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Little update on my forgotten log.

I have already acquired almost all the necessary equipment to setup my next US period. The only thing I still have pending to buy is the weight increments.

I have a week long trip the first week of April, after that I plan to start the next period. Previous to that I will share detailed pictures of my complete setup to accurately monitor strain and temperature in real time.

I am still solid on 24cm BPFSL and my main attempt this next cycle, if possible, will be to achieve 25.4cm which equals exactly 10 inches.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
A little comment to add, as I am currently not in my second period of US, I am though buying all the necessary stuff to setup a good cable/pulley system.

This time I’ll take pictures and maybe video of each component.

I think there would be a lot of interest.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
I think there would be a lot of interest.

Thanks Buck. My intention with the detailed and more “professional” setup is an attempt to help others standardize the procedure. The proper measuring of strain, tension and temperature is one of the big grey areas in which many people ask “how to”. I think this will help.

Most probably others will not be able to exactly replicate the same setup as I am using my kitchen Island to install the pulley, but at least is an idea, and the basic tools needed to measure.

Following this, perhaps during the period I will try to make a video showing and explaining the process of strain which is another thing many still don’t understand.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Little update on my forgotten log.

It is not forgotten! I can’t wait to see your results and I am very curious about the slope of your progress.

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