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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Some update.

I was expected to do this cycle normally, but yesterday I found a purple swollen small area on the bottom side of the glans. It seems it was the product of a crease in the gorilla tape that compressed the tissue there. Just for safety, I am giving it a couple of days to heal. No rush. Less is more, patience is key.

On the good side, I just measured BPFSL for control at 25cm.

I believe I will be able to finish this period at least with 25.4cm which equals 10 inches of phallic apparatus.

Ideally, with a 3rd and even a 4th period I could possibly finish this year between 10.5-11 inches, and if everything stays on track, perhaps towards the end of next year reach the foot long of phallus. Granted, this is based on BPFSL, but this capacity opens the possibility for BPEL development to come behind.

I am working a strategy for BPEL development and I will work on preliminary tests soon.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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Originally Posted by igigi
I am working a strategy for BPEL development and I will work on preliminary tests soon.

I am very interested in this strategy as I am not as successful with mine as I would like.

Originally Posted by igigi
The Soundcare Plus is a good machine which has 1 and 3MHz of frequency. Way more expensive than US Pro 2000. Now, most of us have had great success with the US Pro 2000, so in terms of comparison, I couldn’t tell you if it is worth it to get the Soundcare simply because as far as I know theres only 1 or 2 members who have used it.

Okay, thanks for answering. The difference would be in how long it actually takes to heat up the septum to a point it is more pliable, right?

But that one looks good, I would truly prefer if it would be possible to shorten the warmup period by 10 min for example, that would definitely make it worthwhile for me.

You are going to need a massive ruler!! Should change your handle to ‘igigi the great’.


BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.9" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.5"

Progress log summary: Hanging with FIRe

"Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation." - Kyrpa

Are you doing 10 min US heat hanging over one leg and then flipping to other leg and doing the next 10 min? I’ve gone through one cycle in which I did a bundled hang 180 to one side then the other side while hanging straight down with an ultrasound gel pad backing. I’ll try OTL but my LG vac hanger is pretty bulky so not much shaft makes good contact with my thigh.

Originally Posted by Sthom
Are you doing 10 min US heat hanging over one leg and then flipping to other leg and doing the next 10 min? I’ve gone through one cycle in which I did a bundled hang 180 to one side then the other side while hanging straight down with an ultrasound gel pad backing. I’ll try OTL but my LG vac hanger is pretty bulky so not much shaft makes good contact with my thigh.

No my friend, I always rest my penis on the left leg. There is absolutely no need to switch sides.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by memento
Nice gains.

Thank you brother.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kingkongsdong
Okay, thanks for answering. The difference would be in how long it actually takes to heat up the septum to a point it is more pliable, right?

But that one looks good, I would truly prefer if it would be possible to shorten the warmup period by 10 min for example, that would definitely make it worthwhile for me.

Interestingly enough, I have shortened the time to no more than 5 minutes, thanks to the multiple thermocouple device I am using. By taping the probes exactly on top of the septum at 4 different points along the shaft, it allows me to direct the transducers directly to those points hitting the septum directly as a primary target reaching therapeutic temp in less than 5 minutes.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
You are going to need a massive ruler!! Should change your handle to ‘igigi the great’.

LOL

Actually I had a philosophical encounter with myself the other day, because I never paid attention to it, the fact that after measuring I realized that “holy shit, this ruler is 30.48cm long (12 inches) and I am a little over 2 inches short of rendering it useless” LOL.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Rocco25
I am very interested in this strategy as I am not as successful with mine as I would like.

I will elaborate on this later my friend.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Rocco25
I am very interested in this strategy as I am not as successful with mine as I would like.

So my strategy to approach BPEL exercise is based on the same principle of heat on the tissues. But also, while stretching the tissues from the inside out. For BPEL our limiting factor is the tunica. Certainly the Septum plays a big role, but that is why we are enlarging it enough with the current US therapy.

In order to create the stretching from the inside out, the perfect tool is a vacuum pump. However, one of the problems has always been fluid buildup. At least in my case, I quickly build up fluid specially in the foreskin, and that same stretching and “inflation” of the skin prevents the pressure from directly putting stress in the tunica.

One of the best solutions for this is to pump in water. For that, the bathmate. The problem, bathmate never made a pump big enough. I believe the biggest they had was 8 inches. Why? I have no idea. Perhaps the complexity to build a bigger apparatus, cost to the client? I dont know. Well, until now. They have now one that can reach 11 inches, but the cost is between $300-350. Too expensive. However, I found a water pump from our beloved peoples republic of china for some $80, that can reach 11 inches. Disgraceful to buy from china to go around greed, but that is our situation at least until we can get rid of this insanity.

Anyways, here is my possible approach, and for this I will have to run a few test trials. First, fill up the pump with water at 107-108 degrees. 108 instead of 104 because in the process of implementation and settling into the setup, a few degrees will be quickly lost plus the absorption of temperature by the tissues. Second, insert penis, and apply an IR lamp to keep the temperature of the water at 104 degrees. Apply vacuum pressure in a controlled “stress relaxation” style for 1 hour.

Now there are many questions. For example:

- Will the IR lamp be sufficient to keep the water at 104 degrees?
- At what distance the lamp needs to be positioned to keep the water at that temperature without variation.
- Can the internal tissue of the penis reach that target temperature?
- How long will it take for the internal tissues of the penis to reach the target temperature.

For that, we gotta gauge step by step. First, fill up the pump with 104 degrees water by itself, close it with a thermocouple to monitor internal water temperature. Follow this by positioning the pump with water under the IR lamp and monitor temperature in order to determine the distance that the lamp needs to be positioned to keep the water at 104 degrees. The lamp needs to provide enough temperature to keep it at 104, but without keeping rising, neither declining. So the distance will be crucial, and perhaps needs re-calibration once the penis is inside.

Once that exercise is performed, we need to assess the behavior of the tissues. The erected penis will behave in a different way than a flaccid penis under temperature. Because the huge amount of blood circulating inside the erected penis will create a cooling effect in the tissues. So it will become a fight between the water and the blood. The blood tries to cool down while the water tries to warm up. This is going to be hard to determine. Ideally, I could introduce a thermocouple down the urethra some 5 inches down the pipe to monitor the changes, however, the outside portion of the thermocouple has to run in the hot water which will alter the results. I would have to find a way to insulate the thermocouple from the hot water all the way to 1/4 of an inch inside the penis.

Now all of this, HAS to be performed under something many consider to be out of the equation: PGE-1. Nothing of this will have the desired result, if we do not have a sufficient amount of internal pressure in the penis. As far as I have analyzed the structures of the penis, this approach will work while depleting the natural capabilities of the penis to fill up with blood, plus an added expansion from the vacuum pressure to allow the penis to push even more blood in a controlled stress relaxation fashion.

The vacuum pressure by itself will do little to nothing, if the biological structure inside is not providing its own maximum capacity to pump high blood pressure to the internal walls.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

On the one hand, that sounds exciting, but on the other hand, it’s also ambitious. Spontaneously, two things come to mind regarding your post:

1. discoloration due to pumping under heat

I have made the experience that pumping under heat leads to nasty discolorations that are difficult to get rid of. Sometimes my shaft was almost completely purple because of all the dots after pumping under heat (IR). Don’t you see this problem coming here? Does the water bring any benefits here?

CBateman has commented on this as well:
CBateman - Cbateman’s journey to perfection

Originally Posted by CBateman
I personally don’t use heat because Kyrpa and others stated it can cause horrible discolorement. Although I gained, my penis looks 100% as aesthetical as before, the skin did not suffer at all and I want to keep it that way.
Besides, the restriction alone should create good enough expansion even cold.

At that time I read about it for the first time, it was already too late for me. Without heat there is no problem with discoloration at all with me. A difference like day and night!

2. measuring point of the thermocouples

Originally Posted by igigi
however, the outside portion of the thermocouple has to run in the hot water which will alter the results.

This should actually not be the case! The thermocouples “measure” at the welding spot. What the cable does afterwards is not relevant. Just try it and measure a constant temperature with your meter and dip the cable in hot water or heat it with a lighter. Normally nothing should happen.

Rocco, valid points, and specially excited about your second point!! I did not know that, and as soon as I get home I will test it. Currently out of town for work during the week.

In regards to your first point, you are correct, is possibility, but it doesnt apply to me, that is why I didn’t think about it. I started pumping around 14 years ago. I would say after 2 years, I develop some nasty discoloration. I had a big dark ring around my mid way shaft. i eventually built tolerance to me and I repaired my skin to its original color. After that, never had a problem again with discoloration. Even at maximum vacuum, I swell like a potato from fluid buildup but no discoloration at all. And I have tried of course with heat and all of that.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

I really enjoy reading your rough draft BPEL Igigi. I’m glad you don’t have discoloration from the Bathmate. I actually had to stop using it because it actually made my entire shaft a darker skin color. Took almost two years for it to slightly lighten up. Went back to pumping again but less pressure and still, darkening of the skin

How has your BPFSL set up been? Any adjustments over the last month or so?

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