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UCBCN's Log

Hi there.
I’m starting this log to have data to look back on and keep some consistency, and maybe even get some advice along the way.
Please don’t hesitate to give feedback or your thoughts at any point.

Pretty much got no consistent history of PE. I did jelqing on and off around 2017 I believe? And some manuals (inconsistently) as well a few years ago.

Been lurking and researching for a while and feel it’s time to get involved now. I am going to start this journey with “Hanging with FIRe”, as similar as I can to 5.5Squared’s routine. From the logs I have read it seems promising for those in my position, with little to no previous gains or conditioning.

My supposed golden weight + heat weight range: 1.4 - 2.7 kg
I plan to work up to this over time. Just want to take it nice and slow, be safe and hopefully min-max some gains.

Week 1
15m @ 0.34kg (cold)
40m @ 0.4kg (heat)
15m @ 0.48kg (cool-down)

The above is how my first week will look. A light entry into this process. I plan to use this week to get used to the technique and rhythm of the routine. I am excited about the potential results, however, in all honesty, I’m excited to add some structure back into my day and usually get quite addicted to these sorts of things. Anything I gain I will see as a bonus.

I will measure strain (and log all the info here) once a week in the early days (on Friday) and follow this simple structure:
If strain is >2%: Keep going until next strain evaluation
If strain is <2%:
A) Is Pre+post still increasing? Keep going
B) Pre+post stalling + <30 days in cycle? Add 200g
C) Pre+post stalling + >30 days in cycle? Decon

Also please presume that none of what I am talking about is my work. Most if not all of this has been taken from @5.5Squared and @Kyrpa

I plan to run my first cycle when my equipment arrives in the next week. Cycle one will hopefully run for about 4-6 weeks, depending on the total cycle strain. I will then take a decon of about 3-4 weeks. As long as I don’t see any concerning PI’s and see any benefit other than an increase in BPEL, I plan to do this particular PE method for at least 4-6 months. I hope to sit in the therapeutic heat and load range for at least 1-2 months +/ reach my 0.17MPa weight of 2.7kg before calling it quits if I don’t see any results.

Goals:
Reduce erection angle
Increase BPEL to 7.5in
Increase EQ (bonus)

My erection angle is pretty high. I’ve never not been able to do a position, however, sometimes I need to push my member down with a little bit more effort than what I’d like. Especially in doggy. I am hoping that my angle goes down over time with this hanging.

I want to give PE a solid year’s effort in total and if this routine doesn’t work I will dedicate the final 6-8 months to pumping probably.

Enough yapping from me! I will hopefully be back soon to start and log the beginning of this journey, starting with 5.5Squared’s successful routine.

Question. @32Quarters said:
“0.1 mpa is the starting point for adding heat and no heat should be applied below this.”
So I shouldn’t apply heat below 1.4kg of load? I don’t understand this. If anyone can clarify I would appreciate it.

Anything I’m missing? Or anything I’d benefit from that I’m not considering?

Please let me know! :)

(Will do a follow-up post on all starting measurements soon after I have created a trustworthy average for each)


Last edited by UCBCN : 06-06-2024 at .

Originally Posted by UCBCN

My supposed golden weight + heat weight range: 1.4 - 2.7 kg
I plan to work up to this over time. Just want to take it nice and slow, be safe and hopefully min-max some gains.

Week 1
15m @ 0.34kg (cold)
40m @ 0.4kg (heat)
15m @ 0.48kg (cool-down)

I will measure strain (and log all the info here) once a week in the early days (on Friday) and follow this simple structure:
If strain is >2%: Keep going until next strain evaluation
If strain is <2%:
A) Is Pre+post still increasing? Keep going
B) Pre+post stalling + <30 days in cycle? Add 200g
C) Pre+post stalling + >30 days in cycle? Decon

Goals:
Reduce erection angle
Increase BPEL to 7.5in
Increase EQ (bonus)

My erection angle is pretty high. I’ve never not been able to do a position, however, sometimes I need to push my member down with a little bit more effort than what I’d like. Especially in doggy. I am hoping that my angle goes down over time with this hanging.

I want to give PE a solid year’s effort in total and if this routine doesn’t work I will dedicate the final 6-8 months to pumping probably.

Enough yapping from me! I will hopefully be back soon to start and log the beginning of this journey, starting with 5.5Squared’s successful routine.

Question. @32Quarters said:
“0.1 mpa is the starting point for adding heat and no heat should be applied below this.”
So I shouldn’t apply heat below 1.4kg of load? I don’t understand this. If anyone can clarify I would appreciate it.

It seems like you’re coming at this with a level head, heat and consistency are key - but, it seems like you know that.

Iirc, 5.5 started with ultra light loads and worked his way up as strain diminished, much like you’ve prescribed for yourself. I really like this approach for min-maxing, especially if you’re going to be vac hanging. Affords plenty of time to get used to the device. Not to mention, one of Kyrpa’s main points (that I’ve gleaned) is the goal to reach the greatest strain with the least load possible through intense heating. Anyway, I particularly enjoy the options you’ve given yourself on the week’s end.

On your softer goals, erection angle and EQ, I think you’re well on your way for the former. Many of the vets talk about lig stretching, and in particular the relationship to erection angle comes up often. From what I remember several folks reported a change after hanging for a while. I’d guess hanging SD would be effective for it.

As far as EQ, I’d go looking for some of the more esoteric penis-mancers on the forums. Xenolith comes to mind. Kegels are the tip of the iceberg and way underrated, even here. Towel raises are quite fun, as well. Erection angle and EQ can also be quite related, once you start to manipulate the interior pelvic muscles a certain awareness comes about. I’ve found I can stretch ‘the ligs’ that run up around my pubic bone by simply pushing my dick down/side to side while erect/edging, could be useful for improving comfort during doggy - and gives a gnarly pump after a good session.

Have you considered length restricted pumping at the end of length cycles, rather than pumping cycles separately? I’ve not experimented with pumping at all so this is more musing on my part.

On your question, in my opinion: heat is simply necessary. I’d say heat regardless. The particulars about the minimum load will sort themselves out after, what, 5 weeks - should you follow your current plan.

That’s enough outta me! Keep your head on straight, remember that 2% isn’t a lot until it’s compounding!


Why do the newbies get to have all the gains?

Goal: 21x15cm

When taking measurements for BPEL:
- Standing
- Normal body temp (give or take. No bath or shower etc)
- Ruler should run up centre of shaft
- Ruler directly above shaft pressed into pubic bone until no more movement
- Ruler 45° to avoid going under bone
- Neutral spine
- Keep hips neutral
- Avoid kegel or any other attempt to get blood into member
- To the tip of the glans
- Member 90°
- Only neck bends out and forward (holding shirt under chin) (trying to keep the same POV each time)
- Ruler is completely linear to the member

BPSFL:
- Same methods above
- 10s stretch (.give or take)
- Keeping a cm of tip present
- Left hand
- Web of thumb and first finger wraps around under the coronal ridge
- Keeping member horizontal
- Slightly supinating the wrist until thumb is flat parallel to the ground (subtle, but helps ruler fit to same place each time)
- Ruler is completely linear to the member

Originally Posted by Yamb
It seems like you’re coming at this with a level head, heat and consistency are key - but, it seems like you know that.

Iirc, 5.5 started with ultra light loads and worked his way up as strain diminished, much like you’ve prescribed for yourself. I really like this approach for min-maxing, especially if you’re going to be vac hanging. Affords plenty of time to get used to the device. Not to mention, one of Kyrpa’s main points (that I’ve gleaned) is the goal to reach the greatest strain with the least load possible through intense heating. Anyway, I particularly enjoy the options you’ve given yourself on the week’s end.

On your softer goals, erection angle and EQ, I think you’re well on your way for the former. Many of the vets talk about lig stretching, and in particular the relationship to erection angle comes up often. From what I remember several folks reported a change after hanging for a while. I’d guess hanging SD would be effective for it.

As far as EQ, I’d go looking for some of the more esoteric penis-mancers on the forums. Xenolith comes to mind. Kegels are the tip of the iceberg and way underrated, even here. Towel raises are quite fun, as well. Erection angle and EQ can also be quite related, once you start to manipulate the interior pelvic muscles a certain awareness comes about. I’ve found I can stretch ‘the ligs’ that run up around my pubic bone by simply pushing my dick down/side to side while erect/edging, could be useful for improving comfort during doggy - and gives a gnarly pump after a good session.

Have you considered length restricted pumping at the end of length cycles, rather than pumping cycles separately? I’ve not experimented with pumping at all so this is more musing on my part.

On your question, in my opinion: heat is simply necessary. I’d say heat regardless. The particulars about the minimum load will sort themselves out after, what, 5 weeks - should you follow your current plan.

That’s enough outta me! Keep your head on straight, remember that 2% isn’t a lot until it’s compounding!

Hi Yamb, thanks for taking the time to give your input. It means a lot.

Yes, I forgot to mention that I will be sticking with SD as my hanging angle throughout the process. 

Thanks for the EQ info also, I will read up on that.

Honestly, I have no knowledge of pumping currently. I plan to take a comprehensive dive into research on it after I’ve gotten into the groove properly with HWF. I think that will help kill time nicely whilst I hang! I noticed pumping was once mentioned as a useful tool during decon, however, I think to keep it simple I will most likely stick to sex, edging with a CR and some Kegels for the time being. 

I thought so too for the heat. Thanks for your take.

Would be great for you to stick around as I go through the motions, so feel free to chip in whenever you want! 

All the best.

Originally Posted by UCBCN
When taking measurements for BPEL:

- Flattening upward curve until no more length is gained from that (up against ruler)

Of course, I love to give my 2 cents whenever possible :p but seriously, ‘PE Community’ can’t exist without people talkin. Thank you for contributing.

I forgot to mention before, ‘ballooning’ is worth a search - ‘cockringless cockringing’ seems to be a decent tag line for it.

I’ll be around, at least for a while. The goal for me is to retire, after all. Keep learning, recording, and reviewing. It will help a TON in your practice.


Why do the newbies get to have all the gains?

Goal: 21x15cm

Originally Posted by Yamb
Of course, I love to give my 2 cents whenever possible :p but seriously, ‘PE Community’ can’t exist without people talkin. Thank you for contributing.

I forgot to mention before, ‘ballooning’ is worth a search - ‘cockringless cockringing’ seems to be a decent tag line for it.

I’ll be around, at least for a while. The goal for me is to retire, after all. Keep learning, recording, and reviewing. It will help a TON in your practice.

Thanks a lot Yamb

Update: Equipment arriving by the 11th. Excited to get going.

Going to look properly at the water trick to hopefully avoid taping and have a more streamlined process. That’s at least what I read, but cannot remember the users @ !

Update: I would like to progress to 60-minute heated sets sooner rather than later. The idea is to ensure I’m in therapeutic heat for as long as possible during each session. From what I have read, 60 minutes of heat is not necessarily 60 minutes of therapeutic heat. So to maximize the time in therapeutic heat it makes sense to me to increase the total time in heat. I will also preheat the heating pad for about 15-20 minutes before I use it. This entire routine relies on the fact that I’m in the therapeutic heat range. I believe being meticulous about this will pay off. 

For the first cycle, I will follow this aspect:

If the strain is >2%. Keep going and also add 10 minutes to the heated set (60-minute cap).

Until my session looks something more like this:

10m @ kg (cold)
60m @ kg (heat)
15m @ kg (cool-down)

I still plan to follow the structure in terms of adding weight when there is <2% strain.

Reference:

Originally Posted by UCBCN
I will measure strain (and log all the info here) once a week in the early days (on Friday) and follow this simple structure:
If strain is >2%: Keep going until next strain evaluation
If strain is <2%:
A) Is Pre+post still increasing? Keep going
B) Pre+post stalling + <30 days in cycle? Add 200g
C) Pre+post stalling + >30 days in cycle? Decon

In the meantime, please feel free to send me useful links to read!

“Update: All my kit has arrived. I’m hoping to start this journey tonight.

I have been practicing the water-trick vacuum hanging set-up a lot today (Totalman’s); however, I’m struggling to stop my foreskin from moving up and over the glans (and into the cup). Any tips to keep the skin back?

Starting measurements:
BPEL: 6.73"
BPSFL: 6.85"
BPFL: 4.49"
Angle: 48°

As you can see, I’m quite the grower. I want this to change, so I will also be tracking BPFL.
As for MSEG girth, I am 5.41", which I’m happy about. I will most likely work on girth after I have achieved my desired length goal(s). I won’t be tracking girth until I work on it intentionally.

Just a note on the Totalman heating pad. It heats up to 40–41°C in under 10 minutes. I will preheat it during my cold set instead 15-20 minutes.
I found the best way to accurately and consistently measure length was to ensure the sacrum was flat on a wall as the standing measurement occurred. It is too easy to tilt the pelvis during measurements and alter the result by many mm. Before I did this trick, my measurements would change by 1-3 mm +/- each time (sometimes more than that as well). Now, they are the same most, if not all of the time. I think lying measurements are more accurate than standing measurements if the sacrum is not fixed or considered. I just prefer standing because the secured state of the sacrum on the wall (instead of a soft mattress) is a lot more obvious to me.

If you’re starting to hang with FIRe soon or have recently started, shoot me a message! Would be cool to have someone to chat with during the cycles + decons and run shit by.”

BPEL: 6.73" = 17.1 cm

BPSFL: 6.85" = 17.4 cm

BPFL: 4.49" = 11.4 cm


Last edited by AndyJ : 06-16-2024 at .

If you find particularly helpful posts on vac hanging I know I’d enjoy seeing them in your log, please do share if you find something interesting.

Are you measuring in cm then converting to inches? 6.77 seems very specific.

Being a grower isn’t so bad, interested parties have to get to know you a lil before they find out they’ve snagged a big one ;)

Really enjoy the wall measuring trick! I’ll have to try that out…


Why do the newbies get to have all the gains?

Goal: 21x15cm

Originally Posted by Yamb
If you find particularly helpful posts on vac hanging I know I’d enjoy seeing them in your log, please do share if you find something interesting.

Are you measuring in cm then converting to inches? 6.77 seems very specific.

Being a grower isn’t so bad, interested parties have to get to know you a lil before they find out they’ve snagged a big one ;)

Really enjoy the wall measuring trick! I’ll have to try that out.

Just been using Totalman’s free video resources :) Will share if I do find any here though.

Yes measuring cm and then converting.

You make a great point my friend. Although I want another unspoken reason to snag them myself ;)

It’s a great trick.

Cycle 1 | Week 1 | 11th June
(first session)

Pre BPSFL: 17.4
Post BPSFL: 17.7
Strain: 1.72%

15m @ 0.34kg (cold)
40m @ 0.4kg (heat)
5m @ 0.48kg (cool-down)

Wanted an initial strain reading. Will stick with this weight for week 1. Felt a few (very subtle) sharp twinges (not painful) in member towards the end of heat set and beginning of cool down so I cut the cool down 10 minutes short.

0.34kg - felt quite light but a little pull (hardly noticeable)
0.40kg - felt quite nice (a little light). Was tricky getting heatpad in good position
0.48 - felt fine

Started to notice a good warm/hot sensation 10m into heat set.
Member felt a bit achey/fatigued 10-15m into heat.
Very achey/fatigued at end of heat set.

~
Will do 10, 60, 10 for week 1 and see how it goes PI-wise.
Need to find the best position for heatpad.
Need to find insulation for heatpad.

Originally Posted by UCBCN
Will do 10, 60, 10 for week 1 and see how it goes PI-wise.

10, 40, 10 *

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