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Maximum Efficiency 2.0

Hello all,

Time to start documenting all methods and gains (hopefully) for this “self experiment.” I will take into account: PE routine, diet, and lifestyle. I am open to suggestions, and will try to answer any questions. I will update this thread at least once a month when I measure.

PE ROUTINE (subject to change)

Morning:
—5-10 minutes heat pad
—5-10 minutes manual stretching
—3-8 hours ADS (silicone sleeve variation) *2 rest days per week*

Afternoon:
ADS as needed, allowing breaks for circulation
—Manual stretching/massaging as needed

Evening:
—5-10 minutes heat pad
—5 minutes manual stretching
—20 minutes pumping (HydroXtreme 9) with silicone cock ring (custom) allowing breaks for circulation *3 days in a row, 4 rest days per week*
—5 minutes heat pad

Explanation - Most of what I have read suggests that a good combination of girth and length exercises produces the best gains. A warm up and warm down is very important for all PE routines. Also “conscious positive affirmations” are done during the active parts of the routine. The ADS traction devices (tried them all, basically) have produced length gains, but consistency is key. Similarly, pumping produced girth gains typically. I have experimented, and have noticed that pumping with a cock ring works very well for me. My EQ is fantastic a day after finishing with pumping. My biggest hindrance in the past has been consistency. This thread is meant to keep me accountable.

DIET AND SUPPLEMENTS (strongly subject to change)

Compiled research for optimized gains. I try to eat whole foods and vegetables, while staying away from too much processed food, and sugar. Other important notes below:
—Intermittent fasting (6-8 hour window)
—24 hour fasting twice per month
—Multivitamin and Hyaluronic Acid with first meal
—Protein shake and Collagen with meal after gym or after PE routine
—5-HTP before bed *only when needed*

Explanation - (Basically all these reasons are for stem cell production and delivery optimization). Fasting in general lowers insulin levels and increases human growth hormone proportionally. Hyaluronic Acid helps heal faster by regulating inflammation levels and signaling the body to build more blood vessels in the damaged area, also helps in ligament repair flexibility. Collagen helps repair ligaments. The protein and multivitamin are to make sure I have all the necessary macro- and micro-nutrients possibly missed (such as Vitamin C, Vitamin B and zinc). The 5-HTP is to help with deep sleep, very necessary for healing the body. Again, these key points are for stem cell production and delivery optimization.

LIFESTYLE (mostly won’t change)

Maybe what you’d expect..
PE off and on for 3 years (until now)
—Meaningful relationship
—Work 40 hours per week
—Gym in the afternoon 5 days per week (strength and resistance training for 1 hour typically)
—Only measuring once per month

Explanation - Some parts of my lifestyle are not very flexible like my relationship or work. Some are for my benefit like the gym. (Quick point: testosterone is very important to increase stem cell activity; testosterone can be increased greatly through strength training. Also, exercise has many other benefits.) I have read a little bit about mental health, and one important thing to remember is to not measure too often.

Thanks for reading. I will check back in as often as I can.

Are you fasting for weight loss or just increased insulin sensitivity? If you can look at yourself like a scientist then measuring frequently is the best way to go if you can be objective about it. I mean both in PE sense and the weight scale. Good luck to you.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Are you fasting for weight loss or just increased insulin sensitivity? If you can look at yourself like a scientist then measuring frequently is the best way to go if you can be objective about it. I mean both in PE sense and the weight scale. Good luck to you.

I don’t need to lose weight, I’m in pretty decent shape. I would be fasting just for insulin sensitivity. I will try to measure myself more often. How often would you recommend? Twice a week?

Before and after your PE routine, daily. Strain results can be taken from that. For weight daily and then take weekly average but sounds like that’s not your issue. Insulin sensitivity usually improves with weight loss is why I was asking.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Updating Measuring Method

Thanks to some advice from longerstretch, I will try and take a more scientific approach to my measuring, treating this experiment more objectively. I will use the measuring method outlined below.

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Before and after your PE routine, daily. Strain results can be taken from that. For weight daily and then take weekly average..

As far as weight, I stay fairly consistent. For those wondering, I have a BMI of 26, and probably around 9% body fat but not precisely sure.

Week 1: Rough But Successful

This first week was difficult to keep up with. I was very busy. I would say, I completed about 50% of everything I was supposed to do; but I did finish the major things of my PE Routine, like pumping and wearing the ADS, which is what mostly matters. First off, I did see some gains!

Before / After Week 1 of New Routine:
(Measured before PE Routine)
BPEL: 7.75 in (19.7 cm) / 7.875 (20 cm)
+Gain = 0.125 in (0.3 cm)
MSEG: 5.75 in (14.6 cm) / same*
+Gain = 0

*I did pump the day before the “before measurement,” so I might have had a residual pump.

Second, I did measure immediately after my daily PE Routine when I pumped the first day. My BPEL gained 0.25 in (0.6 cm), and MSEG gained 0.125 in (0.3 cm).

Third, I wasn’t able to complete everything I wanted.
PE Routine: I basically did the ADS and pumping I described for my routine, but I did not do the morning routines, which I will try and start this week.
—Diet and Supplements: I ate more sugar than I wanted; but I noticed it was difficult to eat enough calories and I was getting cold in the mornings before I ate. I broke the fasting window twice. Also, I added beet root juice powder to my supplements, and finally started taking hyaluronic acid beginning this week.
—Lifestyle: I only made it to the gym twice to lift. I was very busy this week. Moving forward, I will try to maximize my routine with my schedule. As mentioned previously, I changed my measuring to before and after my PE Routine, mostly on pumping days.

Thanks for reading.

Week 2: Great EQ

All in all, This week was very successful. I was able to stick to the plan for the most part; however I did skip quite a bit of manual stretching, which I need to start being better about. Besides that, I was able to complete everything. I also started to take L-Arganine (1,000 mg/day) and L-Citrulline (1250 mg/day), and halfway stopped the beet root juice powder.

Gains for the week = 0, but I didn’t lose anything and my EQ are great so I’ll take it!

Some observations & changes:

—It is winter here in the northern hemisphere, and it is cold in my home. Due to the intermittent fasting, I still find myself really cold in the morning. Then after I eat around noon, I get very sleepy. I will try and make sure that my blood sugar stays regulated, but I don’t exactly know how yet. This leads to my second observation.

—My penis gets cold in the ADS. I’m sure this is common, but again, it’s winter here and I don’t want the ADS to only fight shrinkage due to the cold. So, I am looking into getting some hand warmers to put in my pants so my penis doesn’t get cold.

—L-Arganine and L-Citrulline gave me great morning wood after the first day of taking it. However, If I take it right before I sleep, I get night sweats. Also, If I didn’t eat enough the day before, I still don’t get morning wood. Also, also, I have had much more gas, but it is less if I take the supplements with a meal.

Thanks and stay strong!

Originally Posted by Alex2.0
Protein shake and Collagen with meal after gym or after PE routine


Is your collagen supplement hydrolyzed?

It’s better to take it with empty stomach, assuming that collagen do pass through stomach without breaking down. Haven’t seem any collagen studies in a while, don’t know what is the current consensus on it.

With the presence of an complete protein pool in the mix, then surely will get fragmented to aminoacids.


Start 6.8” x 4.7” (4.9" BEG)

Latest 8.2” x 5.1” (5.3" BEG)

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Originally Posted by Lenny
Is your collagen supplement hydrolyzed?

It’s better to take it with empty stomach, assuming that collagen do pass through stomach without breaking down. Haven’t seem any collagen studies in a while, don’t know what is the current consensus on it.

With the presence of an complete protein pool in the mix, then surely will get fragmented to aminoacids.

Hey Lenny,

Yes, the collagen supplement is hydrolyzed.

And as far as absorption, I typically take it before the meal and eat right after. I have noticed some benefits to taking collagen that leads me to believe my body is absorbing it properly, for example my nails are growing faster and skin is “glowing” after I exfoliate; both of these are noticeably different than before. The primary amino acids derived from collagen are non-essential or conditionally essential. I am hoping the surplus of nutrients will stimulate growth (proliferation).

There are some studies, but I need to do more research. I am planning to post a research thread in the future looking into all this.

Week 3: Unofficial 8 inches, Traveling, and PE

So, this is an example of where PE is difficult due to my lifestyle. Nothing crazy, just travelling for Christmas… Here is a summary:

—Lifestyle: Travelling, only worked out twice, limited PE equipment and time.

—Diet: Broke my diet completely (besides, supplements). Also, reduced L-Arginine (now 500 mg) and L-Citrulline to (now 250 mg) due to diarrhea from too high of dose. However, after a full week of taking both of those,**I did notice greater circulation to BOTH testicles and penis; my testicles and penis veins are noticeably larger.**

PE Routine: I was only able to use the ADS and light stretching. Will decrease rest days for pumping next week to compensate. First day back from travels, I measured my BPEL and was surprised to measure 8.0 inches (20.3 cm)! This was before I pumped and I am considering this unofficial at this point.

I also, just completed my first hanging session to develop my personal stress-strain curve, for which I will do a separate post.

Thanks for reading.

My Stress - Strain Curve

I have never included hanging in my routine before; but, I wanted to do this to help gather data on the stress - strain curve subject. I posted an Excel file for those who want the data in that format.

Hanging Data
10 minute sessions with heating pad

Measurements from the RS (retroglandular sulcus), right behind the coronal edge of the glands:
—Load kg (lb) = BPFSL cm (inch)
—0.55 (1.2) = 13.5 (5.31)
—0.99 (2.2) = 16.6 (6.54)
—1.54 (3.4) = 17.1 (6.73)
—2.09 (4.6) = 17.3 (6.81)
—2.64 (5.8) = 17.3 (6.81)
—3.06 (6.7) = 17.4 (6.85)
—3.57 (7.9) = 17.5 (6.89)
—4.07 (9.0) = 17.6 (6.93)
—4.65 (10.3) = 17.7 (6.97)
—5.07 (11.2) = 17.7 (6.97)

Measurements including glands, full length
—Load kg (lb) = BPFSL cm (inch)
—0.55 (1.2) = 16.3 (6.42)
—0.99 (2.2) = 20.0 (7.87)
—1.54 (3.4) = 20.3 (7.99)
—2.09 (4.6) = 20.5 (8.07)
—2.64 (5.8) = 20.6 (8.11)
—3.06 (6.7) = 21.0 (8.27)
—3.57 (7.9) = 21.2 (8.35)
—4.07 (9.0) = 21.1 (8.31)*
—4.65 (10.3) = 21.2 (8.35)
—5.07 (11.2) = 21.2 (8.35)

Observations and Notes
*There was a 5 minute break before the 4.07 kg session. The hanging method used had a vacuum type effect, which I think caused fluid to be pulled into the tip adding to the full length for measurement 7 and possibly for 6 also.

I included several graphs that show: Load vs Length, Load vs Strain, Stress vs Strain, and an adjusted Load vs Strain. Each graph shows both the full length and RS measurements. I used the measurement for session 2 @ 0.99 kg for the “Pre” measurement in the strain calculation, because 0.55 kg was producing strain over 30% so it was too light for a baseline. Also, the cross sectional area of my stretched penis is 7.96 cm^2 (1.23 in^2). For the units of stress (force/area), I used g/cm^2 and oz/in^2. Technically these are mass/area, but I feel these units can be easily calculated and compared.

Equations Used
Strain (%) = [(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100
Stress (force/area) = (Force Load)/(cross sectional area)

Feel free to use this data, and/or ask any questions.

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Originally Posted by Alex2.0
I have never included hanging in my routine before; but, I wanted to do this to help gather data on the stress - strain curve subject. I posted an Excel file for those who want the data in that format.

Hanging Data
10 minute sessions with heating pad

Measurements from the RS (retroglandular sulcus), right behind the coronal edge of the glands:
—Load kg (lb) = BPFSL cm (inch)
—0.55 (1.2) = 13.5 (5.31)
—0.99 (2.2) = 16.6 (6.54)
—1.54 (3.4) = 17.1 (6.73)
—2.09 (4.6) = 17.3 (6.81)
—2.64 (5.8) = 17.3 (6.81)
—3.06 (6.7) = 17.4 (6.85)
—3.57 (7.9) = 17.5 (6.89)
—4.07 (9.0) = 17.6 (6.93)
—4.65 (10.3) = 17.7 (6.97)
—5.07 (11.2) = 17.7 (6.97)

Measurements including glands, full length
—Load kg (lb) = BPFSL cm (inch)
—0.55 (1.2) = 16.3 (6.42)
—0.99 (2.2) = 20.0 (7.87)
—1.54 (3.4) = 20.3 (7.99)
—2.09 (4.6) = 20.5 (8.07)
—2.64 (5.8) = 20.6 (8.11)
—3.06 (6.7) = 21.0 (8.27)
—3.57 (7.9) = 21.2 (8.35)
—4.07 (9.0) = 21.1 (8.31)*
—4.65 (10.3) = 21.2 (8.35)
—5.07 (11.2) = 21.2 (8.35)

Observations and Notes
*There was a 5 minute break before the 4.07 kg session. The hanging method used had a vacuum type effect, which I think caused fluid to be pulled into the tip adding to the full length for measurement 7 and possibly for 6 also.

I included several graphs that show: Load vs Length, Load vs Strain, Stress vs Strain, and an adjusted Load vs Strain. Each graph shows both the full length and RS measurements. I used the measurement for session 2 @ 0.99 kg for the “Pre” measurement in the strain calculation, because 0.55 kg was producing strain over 30% so it was too light for a baseline. Also, the cross sectional area of my stretched penis is 7.96 cm^2 (1.23 in^2). For the units of stress (force/area), I used g/cm^2 and oz/in^2. Technically these are mass/area, but I feel these units can be easily calculated and compared.

Equations Used
Strain (%) = [(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100
Stress (force/area) = (Force Load)/(cross sectional area)

Feel free to use this data, and/or ask any questions.

Great that you are gathering data.
These slopes point out the stiffening of the tissue with increasing load.

But there is a variable smoothening the slope and disturbing the elongation results IMO.
So if you like to get to comparable level with the strain percentages presented by longerstretch, docj ,manko007 and me I suggest you to run it next time a bit different way.

Each of the measurement after load intervals should be measured with the force used at the last one, or as we have set the individual standard for ourselves. There is the threshold of stiffening in transition forward due heated exercise and to find out where it lays at the given time the procedure I suggested exposes it.

The 0.5 kg load for a start is good for excluding the environmental effects, but the actual measuring situations after each load increase should be pulled as forcefully as possible outputting the actual maximal length after each step.
Then the actual strain we are getting should show out and the percentage settles much lower and the curve should stiffen more drastically.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-30-2019 at .

An Important Note

Thank you, Kyrpa. This is one of the questions I had previously but failed to communicate properly.

*The important note is, how I measured*
I measured after each session using the current weight, NOT stretched to its maximum length. For example, Stretch @ 0.5 kg for 10 minutes, then I measure using same 0.5 kg. Then @ 1.0 kg for 10 minutes, then I measure using same 1.0 kg, etc.
This is different from what you recommend:

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Each of the measurement after load intervals should be measured with the force used at the last one, or as we have set the individual standard for ourselves. There is the threshold of stiffening in transition forward due heated exercise and to find out where it lays at the given time the procedure I suggested exposes it.

The 0.5 kg load for a start is good for excluding the environmental effects, but the actual measuring situations after each load increase should be pulled as forcefully as possible outputting the actual maximal length after each step.
Then the actual strain we are getting should show out and the percentage settles much lower and the curve should stiffen more drastically.

So how to get proper data, would look like this?
Stretch @ 0.5 kg for 10 minutes, then pull to maximum length and measure (this is “pre” for all or just the next measurement?). Then @ 1.0 kg for 10 minutes, then pull to max length and measure, etc.
Is this correct?

As for your other point,

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
But there is a variable smoothening the slope and disturbing the elongation results IMO.


I tried to smooth it out in the “Adjusted” Load vs Strain graph, which I think is what your talking about.

Originally Posted by Alex2.0
Thank you, Kyrpa. This is one of the questions I had previously but failed to communicate properly.

*The important note is, how I measured*
I measured after each session using the current weight, NOT stretched to its maximum length. For example, Stretch @ 0.5 kg for 10 minutes, then I measure using same 0.5 kg. Then @ 1.0 kg for 10 minutes, then I measure using same 1.0 kg, etc.
This is different from what you recommend:

So how to get proper data, would look like this?
Stretch @ 0.5 kg for 10 minutes, then pull to maximum length and measure (this is “pre” for all or just the next measurement?). Then @ 1.0 kg for 10 minutes, then pull to max length and measure, etc.
Is this correct?


Yes, Then you get in the range of 1.5- 4.5% we are having.
It is easy to me to communicate not so properly so it surely can be my mistake as well .

In fact there are lots of studies run like you did and they are getting tremendous strains out of tissues that way.
The reality is different as the piece we are pulling is not fully elastic then the maximal BPFSL is what you get by pulling it to the threshold of viscoelasticity kicking in at the given place on time vs. load space, and resisting the elongation reaching further.

Originally Posted by Alex2.0

As for your other point,

I tried to smooth it out in the “Adjusted” Load vs Strain graph, which I think is what your talking about.


It is not that, it´s okey. Once the strain percentages drop you can see the slope getting up more steeply like in the load- length graph you plotted.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes, Then you get in the range of 1.5- 4.5% we are having.
It is easy to me to communicate not so properly so it surely can be my mistake as well .
In fact there are lots of studies run like you did they are getting tremdous strains out of tissues that way.
The reality is different as the piece we are pulling is not fully elastic then the maximal BPFSL is what you get by pulling it to the threshold of viscoelasticity kicking in at the given place on time vs. load space and resisting the elongation reaching further.

It is not that, it´s okey. Once the strain percentages drop you can see the slope getting up more steeply like in the load- length graph you plotted.

Alright, I will update this soon. Thanks again!

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