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Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

Surgery Verdict- No.

I deliberated on this for a long while. I researched it for months. I weighed a lot of the pros and cons. It would be different in someone else’s shoes. I can only decide for myself.

I can’t do it. I can’t undertake the level of risk that surgery is known to be based on a sales pitch. I don’t care what someone has to say about their technique and the amount of successes that they have had. They are in a business to make money and sell something to you and you have to undertake that risk knowing and accepting it. Not under taking that risk believing that the marketing that they are spitting towards you will obviate that risk because they say they are better than other medical practitioners for XYZ reasons.

If I had not gained from PE prior I would have considered surgery much more seriously and likely done it. As it stands now that is not an option. The ligament release procedure may not give me much because of the amount of stress I’ve already put on my ligaments and pre stretching that is already occurred. Additionally, there’s no reason for me to undertake the risk give him what I’ve already gained.

Then, there is almost no way that even with a successful procedure that I can assure that the success that I desire will be what occurs. What is considered a success by the surgeon may not be the success that I so direly would have to have. Because even if I maintain all of my erectile function, gained the size I wanted I would still be angry and resentful if it were not perfect. You don’t pay $10,000 to $20,000 for not perfect.

Finally, in the event of a catastrophic result I would wish for the penis I earned. That I built. Not the penis I ruined that has now exhausted almost every PE option and needs them to be a shadow of it’s former glory.

I have so much to lose, mentally and physically, as well as financially that it’s unfeasible in every possible sense.

I can’t condone surgery for myself. I would find a way to regret it and that wouldn’t be worth it.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

That’s a wise decision man. You don’t need to take that sort of risk. Enjoy your bigger than 99,999% cock as it is.


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Originally Posted by Patrik_16
That’s a wise decision man. You don’t need to take that sort of risk. Enjoy your bigger than 99,999% cock as it is.

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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Finally, in the event of a catastrophic result I would wish for the penis I earned. That I built. Not the penis I ruined that has now exhausted almost every PE option and needs them to be a shadow of it’s former glory.

You have great results from your hard work my friend, I agree with every word you said.

You are a winner thoughtfulgold, that counts a lot, it would be silly to take that sort of unnecessary risk, you are already big.

Speaking from experience

There are no short cuts to making a multi-inch gain! Sadly there are a number of cosmetic surgeons all over the world that make promises of 2”-3” gains with a penile lengthening procedure, and 3/4” - 1 1/2” gains with a girth graft of filler. I currently get referrals for weight hanging systems from 5 doctors who do both procedures. I have personally talked to all of them and vetted their credentials and reputations. I personally don’t recommend anyone undergo either of those procedures without first making every attempt to maximize their natural gains. I would consider a length procedure as the last recourse if after a couple years of doing aggressive PE training that you have gained nothing, and even then I would tell you there are no guarantees that you will gain anything if you don’t follow up with weight hanging in order to prevent scar tissue from nullifying your procedure. None of the doctors like for me to tell their potential clients that! However I’ve told all of them they give themselves a black eye reputation if they don’t adequately explain the post surgery requirements, which I personally don’t believe any of them do.

Dermal graft procedures are scary! There are YouTube videos of such procedures and to be honest watching one is hard to do, it makes my butt hole pucker!
They are very intrusive and require significant down time for healing. I guess one would have to be very desperate to achieve a “average” size penis to subject themselves to such a procedure.

I do believe penile lengthening procedures can be effective and can produce the desired results as long as you are dedicated to the post surgery training, which unfortunately most aren’t, and that is the primary reason guys are disappointed with the procedure. Cost is a major consideration too, but let’s face it lot’s of people spend money on stuff they don’t need. I see tons of people walking around with 10k of tattoo ink on themselves, and taking out second mortgages on their homes to pay off 20k+ in credit card purchases on stupid stuff like their morning Starbucks coffee and the set of golf clubs they used once last year… LoL.

Good decision. Why mess with perfection.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

I just gave it a lot of thought. That isn’t how this story ends.

Right now I’m working a lot and doing school. PE has taken a back seat to physical fitness but I wanted to make strides while working at other things. That isn’t to be.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

The story isn't over but...

…I guess every story has an epilogue.

I’m in the last leg of my journey. I’m working on assembling the last rig I’ll be using to get any further gains. With help from Ernie I have a vibration motor set up and soon will be hanging or extending using it.

But this is a heavy work time of year and also online school has demanded more of my time. That and other silliness, most notably physical fitness of the entire body, I think I’ll be updating a bit less here until I find something notable that needs pictures taken. When I get my rig fully assembled and worn it will appear in my pictures log with directions and a method that I’ll be applying to it as pictured as usual. But after that, updates are likely to be sparse.

I think I’ve spread myself a bit thinner than I should have and it may be time to simply let PE take a backseat to the other things I want to work on.

It was a good run. And it isn’t over. But I’m not in the race, I’m walking the track on my off time looking back more than forward.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 12-17-2019 at .

To: Wanting Et Al

Excellent advice guys.

When I joined this forum, I thought that this might be a group of Neanderthals with nothing upstarts but a dick-size obsession. I am pleasantly surprised, not only by your eloquence but by your wisdom as well.

Wanting, I can empathize with you but this size obsession is your personal problem.

There are guys who have only 4 inches erect who MORE than make up for it by honing their bedroom skills. The truth is that men- both gay and straight-are far more impressed with dick size than 80% of women are. Most women get a bigger bang out of a good cunnilingus session than being boned by the biggest dick in town.

So my advice to you is to hone your tongue, fingering and timing skills and you will make her forget that Mr. Previous was ever in her life. So stop ruminating and get to work. Just remember this: it’s all about pleasing HER and if you do that, your own pleasure will be forthcoming (no pun intended).

Define obsession

Originally Posted by Amerikanisch
Excellent advice guys.
When I joined this forum, I thought that this might be a group of Neanderthals with nothing upstarts but a dick-size obsession. I am pleasantly surprised, not only by your eloquence but by your wisdom as well.
Wanting, I can empathize with you but this size obsession is your personal problem.
There are guys who have only 4 inches erect who MORE than make up for it by honing their bedroom skills. The truth is that men- both gay and straight-are far more impressed with dick size than 80% of women are. Most women get a bigger bang out of a good cunnilingus session than being boned by the biggest dick in town.
So my advice to you is to hone your tongue, fingering and timing skills and you will make her forget that Mr. Previous was ever in her life. So stop ruminating and get to work. Just remember this: it’s all about pleasing HER and if you do that, your own pleasure will be forthcoming (no pun intended).

I suppose if you spent the vast majority of your day worrying about the size of your penis that would be construed as an obsession. Everyone has insecurities. I can name dozens of them that I have observed that people have. Overcoming those insecurities and developing a healthy, positive self image is something I think everyone strives to do. Just take a look at the cosmetic industry targeted at women, the health & fitness clubs that are everywhere, hair restoration commercials, teeth whitening products, tattoo parlors, hair salons, nail salons…. even the guy who insists on lifting their 4x4 truck so that you need a ladder to get into it. All of that stuff is about projecting an image to the world about who you are or what you want to be. I get a kick out of all the over weight, un-athletic, grown ass men who wear sports jerseys of with other grown ass men’s names on the back! They call themselves “fans”…. the root word of fanatic!

I personally get calls and emails from men who feel so ashamed about their penis size that it prevents them from having a relationship with the opposite sex. They feel totally inadequate in their ability to please a woman. Your advice on learning to be a good lover is welcomed and I believe most men desire to please their wives or girlfriends sexually. However that being said if you took a poll of women and asked them if they had two men of equal love making skills, one with a 4” penis and the other with a 7” penis, I guarantee you they’d pick the larger man. I’ve heard it said that “it’s not the size of the ship, but the motion of the ocean that counts”, to which I reply…. nobody goes out to sea in a row boat!

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
…I guess every story has an epilogue.

I’m in the last leg of my journey. I’m working on assembling the last rig I’ll be using to get any further gains. With help from Ernie I have a vibration motor set up and soon will be hanging or extending using it.

But this is a heavy work time of year and also online school has demanded more of my time. That and other silliness, most notably physical fitness of the entire body, I think I’ll be updating a bit less here until I find something notable that needs pictures taken. When I get my rig fully assembled and worn it will appear in my pictures log with directions and a method that I’ll be applying to it as pictured as usual. But after that, updates are likely to be sparse.

I think I’ve spread myself a bit thinner than I should have and it may be time to simply let PE take a backseat to the other things I want to work on.

It was a good run. And it isn’t over. But I’m not in the race, I’m walking the track on my off time looking back more than forward.


Can’t blame ya brother. You’ve achieved success in this endevour far beyond most people’s wildest dreams. You only get a certain ammount of vitality a day and its best to use it wisely to advance your life forward and you’ve got the dick situation covered fully thanks to your efforts.


My Journey

My Vision 9*6

I never thought I would be an infrequent poster here. It simply never occurred to me. But for the last year or so, I’ve done pretty much nil on PE.

Mentally it’s kind of difficult, as I’ve experienced mild losses as I expected. And the obsession I’ve spent mostly on my body apart from my penis. What PE I have played with has been very much not rewarding. I think much of my possible gains from basic tugging and squeezing are simply exhausted.

A year ago I said surgery wasn’t on the table but the human mind is fickle and obsessive. I wonder greatly what motivates me at times.

I may be dusting off the pump and extender again. I did a pair of 10-10s last night, ten minute hold of 10hg pressure. I don’t know if I’m back on the horse but I’m at least hanging out at the stable again.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

TG welcome back!


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Nice to hear from you again, I have followed your posts with great interest. Did you ever have any permanent gains from your balls enhancement project, and how did that hold up on your break?


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