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Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
An autologous fat graft.

What is the best case outcome of an autologous fat graft?


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
What is the best case outcome of an autologous fat graft?

Up to 30% increase in girth (at patient discretion) with no visible signs of a procedure. An unknown amount of length gain that cannot be guaranteed or predicted in flaccid and erect states. Also lipsuction of a target area for fat harvesting.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Up to 30% increase in girth (at patient discretion) with no visible signs of a procedure. An unknown amount of length gain that cannot be guaranteed or predicted in flaccid and erect states. Also lipsuction of a target area for fat harvesting.

How does it hold up over time?

How do you suspect it will hold up to PE forces - or is the plan that it won’t have to?


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
How does it hold up over time?

Well, permanent in best case scenarios after adjustment phases. Years, over 10 can be easily optimal results.

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How do you suspect it will hold up to PE forces - or is the plan that it won’t have to?

Can’t say I have heavy PE planned post procedure to care.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

My understanding is that this is simply a soft tissue addition subcutaneously. I guess my thoughts are that to this point the enlargement that you have achieved has been organic. I don’t know that this is consistent with what your goals have been, I would be inclined as viewing this as more of an esthetic effect along the lines of breast implants, which has merit for sure, but maybe not so much in your case, since you already have a outlier sized tool.

Just my thoughts, of course wishing you all the best. Respect!


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
My understanding is that this is simply a soft tissue addition subcutaneously. I guess my thoughts are that to this point the enlargement that you have achieved has been organic. I don’t know that this is consistent with what your goals have been, I would be inclined as viewing this as more of an esthetic effect along the lines of breast implants, which has merit for sure, but maybe not so much in your case, since you already have a outlier sized tool.

Just my thoughts, of course wishing you all the best. Respect!

All PE is aesthetic, where numbers are concerned.

All actions carry purpose.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
All PE is aesthetic, where numbers are concerned.

All actions carry purpose.

Sure and clearly there is a matter of taste or preference to the aesthetic. I have to say that one of the results of this endeavor, unintended, unexpected is when there is full throttle EQ and through the now thinned out skin from the increased volume the underlying display is absolutely amazing, to me. Similar to when one is cut and the abdominals are displayed through the skin. My concern is that aesthetic might be compromised and I wonder whether from an aesthetic point of view the increase in volume would in fact be more pleasing to you.

All actions carry purpose, sure but is that purpose aligned with yours. If it is well then by all means, doesn’t seem all that risky.

In fact this type of thing isn’t even all that novel. I’m aware of breast implant procedures in which fat from the area of the position of the lats, is repositioned to the breasts as part of the augmentation procedure.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
Sure and clearly there is a matter of taste or preference to the aesthetic. I have to say that one of the results of this endeavor, unintended, unexpected is when there is full throttle EQ and through the now thinned out skin from the increased volume the underlying display is absolutely amazing, to me. Similar to when one is cut and the abdominals are displayed through the skin. My concern is that aesthetic might be compromised and I wonder whether from an aesthetic point of view the increase in volume would in fact be more pleasing to you.

Vascularity was a byproduct I appreciated, not a goal. If it remains, I am happy. If not, I am not saddened.

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All actions carry purpose, sure but is that purpose aligned with yours. If it is well then by all means, doesn’t seem all that risky.

Simply put, volume success with a small time investment is enough purpose. Volume, for me, is the final true goal. Hit that and mark PE as a finished endeavor.

More research is being done as to risk.

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In fact this type of thing isn’t even all that novel. I’m aware of breast implant procedures in which fat from the area of the position of the lats, is repositioned to the breasts as part of the augmentation procedure.

I can believe the risk is low. But I must look into it fully before committing. This is not a simple PRP shot.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

PE becoming mentally toxic.

For me the process of starting a decon break begins when the process of PE become something I dread. It has been three days since I did an 8 minute pumping session. Which I designed so that there was no possible way I could find an excuse not to do it. Now that I am finding excuses not to do it even on days where I know I’m not that tired I know that I’m probably going to have to take an extended decon break longer than I wanted sooner than I planned.

It angers me because I do feel I’m on the cusp of getting progress done and getting into the swing of things with the hanger again. But I don’t know how much more I can force myself to do it. I am in the middle of purchasing more fitness equipment and budgeting more time and energy for fitness and martial arts so 1 hour-long hang sessions before work and in practice really derail the fitness aspects of my life that I want to get on track.

I am only human and the feedback from my body and mind at working hard on my body is eclipsing what positive energy I get from working on my cock. It is making it difficult to keep it on the priority list high enough to devote the energy a PE veteran like me needs to see gains.

Fat grafting isn’t just an easy way out. It is the doorknob to shutting the door on the gains chase. It may be months, next year, before the graft option is even a consideration much less plausible.

Plainly speaking, the fact is PRP crashed and burned with $1600. The smaller cylinder (2”x11” angled velseal) crashed and burned faster than PRP, took $200 and hurt like a bitch. The pumping and hanging are showing promise but I’m not in it with both feet to wade through the tweaks and research properly despite paying $250 for the custom hanging cylinder. I want to make this work but I am bottoming out on motovation for PE and it’s starting to become distasteful to me. The crawling gains rate is no comfort either.

I will decide my next path forward soon but I think it is a matter of time before I’m off for a long while again. I have to be honest.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 07-10-2019 at . Reason: minor

Is there anything about PE that you still enjoy?

Aside from the results, of course…

The process of PE itself - is it always tedious? All exercises, all the time?


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Is there anything about PE that you still enjoy?

Aside from the results, of course…

No. I have reached a point where almost every tension pattern and type is known to me and any projection of gains is protracted over time spans so long I cannot see true purpose anymore.

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The process of PE itself - is it always tedious? All exercises, all the time?

PE, for me, is generally tolerable to tedious. All the time.

The crawling gains and the increased nuances I have to notate make them happen are so much more painstaking that I simply lack the energy for it anymore. Not when other things can vastly improve with fractions of this time and effort that I enjoy.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
No. I have reached a point where almost every tension pattern and type is known to me and any projection of gains is protracted over time spans so long I cannot see true purpose anymore.

PE, for me, is generally tolerable to tedious. All the time.

The crawling gains and the increased nuances I have to notate make them happen are so much more painstaking that I simply lack the energy for it anymore. Not when other things can vastly improve with fractions of this time and effort that I enjoy.

Are there ways you can double down on the self-improvement?

Can you hang while at a desk reading a book on health and fitness training or martial arts and take notes?

This may allow you to study what you’re passionate about, while doing PE?

As well, could you wear an extender while working out? Depending on the exercise, it should be viable? Wear weights on the end to stretch while doing martial arts?

Good luck TG, you’ve been inspirational in my short journey.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Up to 30% increase in girth (at patient discretion) with no visible signs of a procedure. An unknown amount of length gain that cannot be guaranteed or predicted in flaccid and erect states. Also lipsuction of a target area for fat harvesting.

Can you link to any before/after photos (erect) showing an example of the best case outcome?


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I do what I can to help out.

Your measurements between then and now, makes me drool.

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Can you link to any before/after photos (erect) showing an example of the best case outcome?

I would recommend you research the topic. The knowlege will have more meaning when you decide for yourself.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

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