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Sounds good Cap. The correct perspective. Gains are gains.

Originally Posted by marinera
Sounds good Cap. The correct perspective. Gains are gains.

Thanks mate :)

Originally Posted by Monty:
IMO: If you guys are not seeing consistent gains over significant time periods, like 2 to 3 months then you leaving something out of your routines that solidify what gains you might be making.

What I see is missing from your routine descriptions seems to be utilizing an ADS to contribute to consistent gain progress. The usage of an ADS between significant workouts will cause not only a lack of gain progress but can actually cause a regression of gains back to the bodies original genealogical makeup and along with that would be toughening of the tissues. Hence you could actually see things return to their original length. Sad, but it happens during the last of the 4 phases of the bodies healing process.

What needs to happen is an avoidance of time that allows those healing phases to complete with enough stress to prevent healing regression, hence an ADS should be used between heavy hanging or whatever exercises gains are accomplished with.

It isn’t necessary to wear high stress or weight levels but enough to keep things disturbed so regression doesn’t happen. That level is usually around the 2 to 3 pound mark. So IOW wear something 24/7 except for sleep periods. 8 or even 10 hours of sleep isn’t enough for solidification to take place before the next set of an ADS begins or heavy exercises. When I was in the grove I was wearing my rings upwards of 15 hours a day with my heavy hanging sessions taking place in the afternoons after work and before the wife and kids came home. That led to 2” of growth over a 14 month period. I know of others who have gained that same amount in much less time but they devoted their lives to hanging during the day, must have been all day. :)

At any rate the usage of an ADS would very likely result in gains progression over long periods of time without toughening or any regression.

Monty, you state this above
“… The usage of an ADS between significant workouts will cause not only a lack of gain progress but can actually cause a regression of gains back to the bodies original…”

This reads like you mean using an ADS will impede growth. But further down, your post seems to advocate using ADS. Sorry, but I’m confused. Can you clarify please?

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
Monty, you state this above
“… The usage of an ADS between significant workouts will cause not only a lack of gain progress but can actually cause a regression of gains back to the bodies original…”

This reads like you mean using an ADS will impede growth. But further down, your post seems to advocate using ADS. Sorry, but I’m confused. Can you clarify please?

I reread my posts here before I send them. I don’t know how I missed that mis-statement.

You are correct in that an ADS should be used to prevent a loss of gains and provide a steady progression of gains.

Sorry for the confusion. Getten Old I guess. :faint:

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Originally Posted by Monty:
I reread my posts here before I send them. I don’t know how I missed that mis-statement.

You are correct in that an ADS should be used to prevent a loss of gains and provide a steady progression of gains.

Sorry for the confusion. Getten Old I guess. :faint:

Ha, ha. Join the club. Thanks, Monty.

Congrats cap.

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Way to go Cap!

Thanks guys, never give up, it works.

For anyone who might find this useful here’s the routine that seems to be working.
Keep in mind I took about 8 months decon before starting it.

Stretching.
Using the vachanger 3 filled with water.
5-10mins stretching with the elastic leg cord to loosen up then 5mins stretching in the shower just manually pulling on the hanger.
Straight up and bundled stretches straight up, hold between 30-60s.
2-3 days a week.

Pumping.
Warm up 5mins hot water.
Jelq 5-10mins depending on how it feels.
Water pump 10-30mins @3” hg again going on how it feels. Sometimes one 30min session other times two 10-15min sessions with some jelqing inbetween.
4-5 days a week

That’s it really, a lot of going by how it feels and enough rest, pretty simple and enjoyable.

Thanks for sharing your routine, it makes me wonder how many of non gainers do far too much.

4 years of PE and yet you don’t need a very intense routine to gain.

Originally Posted by Monty:
I reread my posts here before I send them. I don’t know how I missed that mis-statement.

You are correct in that an ADS should be used to prevent a loss of gains and provide a steady progression of gains.

Sorry for the confusion. Getten Old I guess. :faint:

Did you ever jelq during those 14 great months or did any other form of PE?
After those 2 inches you aimed for girth and I see you also succeded right?

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Heh well done Cap! I was so gobsmacked to see that you have finally gotten results after all these years! I couldn’t believe it at first, so big congratulations! Thanks for giving us hope too! Merry Christmas to you!

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Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Congrats Capernicus!

Does the vac hanger with water fillled work bundled too? Could you do BTC stretching/hanging with the vac hanger?

Works just fine.
Dont see why you couldn’t hang or stretch any angle you want with it, the actual chamber is quite small.
If you want to hang angles or fulcrums where your shaft will be bent a bit I’d recommend using a longer sealing sleeve rather than the vacuum ring Though.

Congratulations cap!

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