I've cured my premature ejaculation

Thanks for your replies King and Formula.

I’m thinking I need to up my dose to maybe 20mg and see if that makes a difference.

I’ll talk to my Doctor and give it a try.

This is pretty much what I do exactly. 10 just doesn’t seem to cut it. But with 20mg, if I drink any alcohol, the hangovers can be dabillitating. I probably spelled that wrong by the way.
I am currently giving Paxil another “test” but weight gain and like I mentioned with hangovers makes me think I wont deal with it for long. I lost over 25lbs when I stopped Paxil and Zoloft a couple years back. For me, Anafranil a few hours before an “expected” encounter with wife works best so far. My body seems to get adapted to Paxil and Zoloft after too long and the “good” effect subsides. But this is such a frustrating and troublesome part of my life I cant stand it. Now when I did Anfranil, coupled with a desensitizer and a condom, look out I was a machine. But the wife doesnt really like marathons any more. I just need a medium of about 6-7 minutes and she has had plenty. She is a quick cummer too!

UPDATE: Talked to my doctor the other day. I’m going back to taking one 50mg tablet of Zoloft a day. He felt maybe I came off too fast and that it may take a while to really nip this in the bud. I had not fully stopped taking Zoloft so I don’t think there will be any side effects.

UPDATE: Went back to taking Zoloft 50mg. Everything is fine again. Maybe if there are any natural remedies I’ll try them. If anyone one knows of any, please let me know. Thanks

I’m convinced there’s no cure yet. These are only secondary effects from SSRIs and are not 100% assured. It is probably part of the reason why dapoxetine hasn’t been approved for premature ejaculation as the primary.

Has anyone ever checked out CUREPREMATUREEJACULATION.COM ? These things make me skeptical but I am always sucked in.

Dude don’t spend a penny on that, all those techniques can be discovered for free on the web.

They usually use the clenching of the PC muscle, which works but takes tons of practise, if you can be bothered practising for months. I couldn’t, so I used paxil which sorted it in days.

You back on paxil again, King?

Hey KG, Haven’t heard from you in a while. As you see I’m back on Zoloft. Couldn’t stand being a ten minute man.

I’ve been thinking about paying for this site for a while because it suggests changing your ejaculatory reflex and using exercises that don’t involve the PC muscle

Hi King_G

Thank you, and everyone who contributed to this thread. I am going to set up an appointment with my urologist as soon as I return from my business trip.

I just have a few questions at the moment:

1) Did you continue to practice “edging” throughout the entire time while you were on Paxil? Or did you stop practicing? I would like to know because while Paxil can provide me with a temporary solution, I would like find a “cure” to PE. There’s no point in practicing edging for me at the time being because I ejaculate way too soon (within 30 seconds of insertion). I think perhaps I can learn and master the techniques of edging while taking Paxil, and continue to use those skills after I get off the medication.

2) To what degree did the concentration issue affect you? I need to be my 100% at my job due to the nature of its duties.

3) Did PE return to you quickly after you were off the medication, or did it come back gradually? ie., 10min -> 8min -> 5min->….so on.

Thanks again for the great thread, everyone.

I recently found this article after searching for any information on premature ejaculation from an Ayurvedic point of view:
I found very interesting the point on anxiety being a cause.
I guess that anxiety causes some chemical production in the brain that tells our bodies to ejaculate quickly, to get out of danger so to speak.
SSRIs counterbalance this effect I can imagine.

“Rapid Ejaculation

A lot of men and/or their partners wish they were able to prolong their sexual encounters. Lack of ejaculatory control might, in fact, be the number one sexual complaint among men under the age of 50. The details of the complaint vary greatly though. Concerns range from the man who will ejaculate within seconds, at the first touch or just prior to penetration, to the man who is able to receive oral and manual stimulation without ejaculating, but with intercourse will orgasm within a minute. There are men who report being quick to ejaculate from their very first sexual encounter and remain so. There are men who report having been quick during early sexual encounters but somehow gained control until suddenly losing control again. Then there are men who seem never ever to have been bothered by an untimely ejaculation. Obviously there is not just one type of ejaculatory concern.

“Premature” or “rapid” ejaculation is also relative to the man and/or his partner’s expectations. There are men who are able to thrust for 5 minutes before ejaculating and complain because they had hoped to last another 25 minutes. There are men who last 20 minutes but their partners complain that they did not wait for her — or worse yet, draw comparisons with her last lover who had set a record for marathon thrusting. Consider another couple who plays for an hour after a very romantic evening. In the course of love play the man manually and then orally stimulates his partner who, in response, has three orgasms. He then mounts, thrusting hard and deep, and ejaculates in about 45 seconds. This couple then holds each other in the afterglow of their intimate exchange, telling each other how wonderful the lovemaking had been. Does this man have a problem? Not if both are happy with the encounter. What if he moves on to another relationship and the next woman is not comfortable receiving oral stimulation to orgasm and expects 10 minutes of coital thrusting! These examples make it clear that a man’s expectations and/or the expectations of his partner (s) have something to do with his labeling himself as having a problem.

In the past, premature ejaculation was defined by the percent of times the man ejaculates during intercourse before his partner does. There is, however, a major problem with defining a man’s ejaculatory control in terms of his partner’s orgasmic frequency during intercourse. It has been clearly demonstrated that the majority of women (perhaps around 65%) are unable to orgasm with the stimulation of intercourse alone… never could and probably never will. For most women the vagina is significantly less sensitive than the clitoris, which is not always stimulated in most coital positions. A fair number of the roughly 35% of women who can make it during intercourse do so by combining clitoral stimulation with what they are experiencing vaginally. It is fortunate that some positions that work best for the woman are the same in which a man might exercise better control of his ejaculatory process.

You might now ask, “What is normal or typical?” Let’s first, however, consider the question, “What is natural?” In nature the purpose of sex is procreation, and this process is accomplished by the deposit of sperm deep in the vagina, independent of the time it takes to do so (or, for that matter, the partner’s satisfaction). Our primate cousins, the apes, chimps and monkey, ejaculated in seconds.

As human beings, however, sex is more often for recreation, typically with great pains being taken to prevent pregnancy. Sex for humans is an expression of love, a sharing of intimacy, a form of communication, and often we feel it is an expression of our manhood or womanhood. We have a certain investment in being good at it! However, it appears natural for a man to move toward vaginal intercourse, thrust upon penetration, and ejaculate quickly.

This brings us to the question, then, about normalcy. It is my position that it is normal for men to sense an urge to ejaculate quickly and feel the need to exercise some control. We’ll finally look at the question now of “What is typical?” Although averages stated vary a bit from study to study, it would appear safe to say that the average healthy male under 30, with steady vaginal thrusting, will ejaculate in 1 to 3 minutes, not 15 minutes as most men would wish.

There are factors that influence how quickly a man will ejaculate. The younger the man, the more likely it is that he will ejaculate quicker. The more excited the man, the quicker he is likely to be, and related to this, the more novel and exciting the partner, the greater the tendency to orgasm rapidly. Also, the longer the time since his last ejaculation, the greater the loss of control. Furthermore, the more active and rapid the thrusting, the sooner he is likely to reach the point of ejaculatory inevitability - that point of no return. It also seems clear that the more worried or anxious the man, the shorter his fuse will be. In summary, the man at greatest risk of ejaculating quickly is the young man who is with a new partner after a long dry spell and is very excited, but very nervous, as he penetrates and thrusts steadily and rapidly.

Men have tried many things to slow themselves down. Makers of the desensitizing creams have made fortunes because men believe that if they numb the end of their penis they will last longer. However, most men are disappointed with these over-priced creams, as the ejaculatory reflex is much more complicated than just superficial nerve endings. Someone once said that our largest sex organ is not between our legs, but rather between our ears. There is a lot of complicated neurology between the end of a penis and the top of the man’s brain! More recently, physicians have been prescribing medications that have been found to have ejaculatory retardation as a side effect, but as a behavioral therapist I have a problem with this. Even if such medication does work (and it often does not), it will “cure” nothing. The man can’t take it for a lifetime, and in relying on the magic pill will never learn how to manage his ejaculatory process in a way to prolong the pleasure both he and his partner experience. Condoms might help (and should always be worn in the practice of safer sex), but in a long-term committed relationship, condoms may be a nuisance unless being worn for contraceptive purposes.

Unfortunately, much effort by well-intended sex therapists has been wasted, for many of my colleagues have not understood the dynamics of the natural ejaculatory response nor the important learning components of gaining better management of the process. In part, the difficulty has been with them viewing rapid ejaculation (a term I prefer over premature ejaculation) as a pathological condition rather than a natural one. Rapid ejaculation has been grouped with the sexual dysfunctions, even though it is quite common and the majority of young excited males will ejaculate rapidly at least in the early encounters with a responsive and novel partner. Calling it a dysfunction is essentially turning a natural process into an illness. In the medical model of thinking, if there is an illness, there is hopefully a cure. Thus we find many self-help books promising a cure in from 4 to 8 weeks! If it is a natural and fairly typical response, what is there to cure? I am not surprised to learn that a three-year follow-up study has shown that a significant number of the men thought to be “cured,” end up right back where they started from before beginning treatment. Something is missing in the routine prescription of behavioral homework given with the promise that faithful compliance will effect a lasting life-long remedy. Just doing the prescribed exercises will not change anything over the long run if the man does not learn something new.

It may well be that some men are just more sensitive than others. There is no cure for what is just one more of the multitude of individual differences we find among people. However, I had mentioned earlier two very common features of men who consistently ejaculate rapidly: High sexual excitement and high psychological anxiety. If a man is to learn an effective strategy for managing his ejaculatory response, he must not allow himself to become overly excited. Yes, ejaculatory control will cost a man something, for he cannot get caught up in crazy-wild passion without dashing uncontrollably toward that point of ejaculatory inevitability. Increasing the frequency of ejaculation, either with a partner or through self-stimulation can help. Also staying relaxed both in mind and body is very important.

There is a series of step by step exercises “prescribed” by sex therapists called the start-stop method, but it is not simply starting and stopping that helps a man gain control. The man must focus in on his steady progression toward the inevitable, that point of no return. He must identify all the internal indicators that he is approaching that threshold where his body will automatically take over and propel him to orgasm. This requires relaxation and concentration. He cannot be thinking of his partner’s response nor even looking at her body. He must stay within himself and feel his process unfolding. Then he must stop before reaching the point of ejaculatory inevitability. Typically the instructions are to start and stop four or five times before “letting go” and ejaculating. I always remind men to identify what that psychological / physical “letting go” really involves. The start-stop procedure works best with a committed and giving partner whom is willing to take the time to help. Typically the “homework” starts with manual stimulation with a dry hand.

After a few such encounters, a lubricant is introduced, but the stimulation is still manual. If all is going well, after several such episodes oral stimulation is suggested if the woman is comfortable performing fellatio. Remember, with each of these steps, the stimulation is started and, as the point of no return is approached, the stimulation is stopped. The man must not allow his partner to begin again until he is absolutely sure he is back under control, even if this means he is beginning to lose some of his firmness.”

I’m in this stupid dilemma again.

I got to know this pretty girl recently. We flirted a bit and I got here telephone number.

I could tell that she’s interested in having sex. I’m working out quite a lot and I guess that’s a factor.

Now I’m looking forward to seeing her (We’ll have dinner in the coming days.) and having sex with her.

But, already the anxiety is kicking in:”Shit, I’ll come so quickly again and she’ll be disappointed.

-Allright, take it easy. Go down on her and give her a good time. If you come quickly afterwards, it’s not that bad because you made her feel great.

- But oral sex is a low risk sex. What if she has some disease and I catch it. Is it worth it just for some fun?

- Alright, then just use your hands.

- But I want her to feel great.”

Shit. I envy the guys who do not worry so much.

I think, I’ll just go for the safe, manual thing. After all, I still don’t know if anything comes out of it anyways;-) But it pisses me off, that I cannot enjoy sex without all these thoughts.

Thanks for listening. It was good to write this down. Perhaps some of you have had similar situations and can tell how they cope with it.

I’m now beginning to wonder if the Paxil is starting to weaken the effects of the Cialis. This weekend was the second time that I have taken the Cialis and not felt any of the side effects like I used to such as a stuffy nose. We didn’t have sex this time because I ended up getting an upset stomach and felt sick that night. But the previous time we did have sex but I was not quite as hard as I used to.

Is it possible that the Paxil could be interfering with the positive effects of the Cialis?

Holly crap, lingam, I go through the exact same thoughts each time I meet a new girl. As a result, I only had sex with a few girls, one being a long-term relationship that lasted 6 years. I consider myself rather good looking, and I have had a lot of opportunities including a lot of one-nighters, but I just couldn’t do it simply because I didn’t want to embarrass myself in bed.

How do I cope with it? Nothing! There isn’t anything I can do about it. I have tried just about everything and nothing worked.

But that may change once I get to see my urologist when I return from my business trip. I am not going to mention to him anything about Paxil and see what he has to offer me. Will keep you guys updated…

Formula, are you practicing “edging”? King mentioned it in one of the posts which I thought would be worthwhile to give it a try. BTW, is King still around?