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Average size globally, new study!

Originally Posted by RomeoPlus
Observation and common sense.

Race is linked to overall body size, which is linked to the general average size of bodyparts. Which is why in Thailand where the people are quite tiny the shoe shops sell small shoes and the pharmacists sell small condoms. The condom manufacturers have white papers on condom sizes they make for various world markets (ie race differences).

And re the feet; Are you saying if you got 100 huge men at 6 foot 5 with huge feet, and 100 tiny men at 4 foot 11 with tiny feet, both groups have the same average penis size? I can’t see that happening sorry.

Because you don’t believe the facts.


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That should be nbpel and it’s not in the US so it might be small here.

I don’t think a definite normal size exist only in your partners experience and and build.


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Glad to see it managed to sum up some discussion. Personally I’m pretty sure this is NBPEL and the 6” average being BPEL.

They even came to the same conclusion, approx, after medical professionals measured men in my country as well. Before that there was one self reported study done as well where the average came out as above 6”, yes, most men exaggerate their sizes when self reporting.

When it comes to race and size I do think there’s a little difference but not as major as some seem to think. Also I don’t think there’s ANY correlation between hand/foot size because then I’d be much bigger than I originally was. I got long fingers, yes, and reasonable big hands all in all, feet as well.

I remember years ago when I dated this nurse student whom had this ‘sex book’ where they had written that the average Cock was 7.1 inches or 18 cm exactly, lol.

This air head broad actually believed it to be the God’s honest truth, the men she had slept with previously to me must either have been hung or just lying their asses off, maybe they even measured in front of her holding the ruler on the side. Wish I had met her today and whipped the ruler out and measured over 8” BPEL from the side as well, lol.

Even measuring from the top I’d today be over her imaginary ‘average’ of over 7 inches NBPEL, lol.


Stats as of now: 20 cm BPEL/ 14 cm GIRTH. Started out at: 16 cm BPEL/ 11.8 cm GIRTH.

Originally Posted by Snemannen
Glad to see it managed to sum up some discussion. Personally I’m pretty sure this is NBPEL and the 6” average being BPEL.

They even came to the same conclusion, approx, after medical professionals measured men in my country as well. Before that there was one self reported study done as well where the average came out as above 6”, yes, most men exaggerate their sizes when self reporting.

When it comes to race and size I do think there’s a little difference but not as major as some seem to think. Also I don’t think there’s ANY correlation between hand/foot size because then I’d be much bigger than I originally was. I got long fingers, yes, and reasonable big hands all in all, feet as well.

I remember years ago when I dated this nurse student whom had this ‘sex book’ where they had written that the average Cock was 7.1 inches or 18 cm exactly, lol.

This air head broad actually believed it to be the God’s honest truth, the men she had slept with previously to me must either have been hung or just lying their asses off, maybe they even measured in front of her holding the ruler on the side. Wish I had met her today and whipped the ruler out and measured over 8” BPEL from the side as well, lol.

Even measuring from the top I’d today be over her imaginary ‘average’ of over 7 inches NBPEL, lol.

The Veale study appears to be bone pressed length. Non bone pressed length isn’t a thing in studies. Bone Pressed or Stretched flaccid length are the tickets I’ve noted.


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
The Veale study appears to be bone pressed length. Non bone pressed length isn’t a thing in studies. Bone Pressed or Stretched flaccid length are the tickets I’ve noted.

Ok.


Stats as of now: 20 cm BPEL/ 14 cm GIRTH. Started out at: 16 cm BPEL/ 11.8 cm GIRTH.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
The underlying problem is the cultural mismatch.

“Bigger is better and more masculine.”

“You only get the dick you are born with.”

So, anyone who manages to get bigger usually does it a LOT because he’s constantly reassuring himself that the system works. Which leads to indefinite PE, regardless of what the averages actually say.

Because the PE practicioner spends so much time quantifying that PE works that by the time the Dysmorphia fades, his penis is much larger. And because the Dysmorphia fuels desperation the same penis he started with is what he sees and he never got any larger compared to the averages. Its the same reason most of us know the averages from all the studies offhand and can spot inconsistencies.

Nothing stops a man sure he has found a way to make his penis bigger. Even partner discomfort falls by the wayside many times.

Because bigger is always better.

If it was not, then some of us would read the averages and quit PE. This does not occur.

Well said, and f*** average; in ALL parts of life


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
The Veale study appears to be bone pressed length. Non bone pressed length isn’t a thing in studies. Bone Pressed or Stretched flaccid length are the tickets I’ve noted.

Exactly.

There is a link to the study itself in the article linked in the beginning of this thread

If you read the actual stuffy, they only accepted data from studies that performed bone pressed measurements.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

Link to full text of the study:

Am I normal? A systematic review and construction of nomograms for flaccid and erect penis length and circumference in up to 15 521 men

David Veale, Sarah Miles, Sally Bramley, Gordon Muir, John Hodsoll
First published: 8 December 2014
BJU International Volume 115, Issue 6

https://onlinel ibrary.wiley.co … .1111/bju.13010

Originally Posted by Titleist
Because you don’t believe the facts.

No I do believe the facts. The fact that condom manufacturers make different sized condoms for different world markets (ie different races).

If there was no race difference they would just sell the same optimal sized condoms everywhere.

There is a “politcally ccorrect” tendency these days to never ever say anything that might offend people of a particular race. So people doing penis size tests might survey 100 black men and 100 white men of similar height and conclude “there was no difference in penis size based on race.” Fair enough, makes everyone feel good.

Now survey 100 big Dutch guys and 100 tiny Thai guys, and see what tthe results are. The penis size researchers in this study don’t tell you that race comparison, but the condom manufacturers have to know that stuff and size their condoms according to country and race or they just don’t fit and customers stop buying them.

And to reply to a-unit; yes I am sure and I have seen condom manufacturer white research papers, on this forum if I remember right.

30 years ago I had a Hooker friend and we used to get drunk together and talk about stuff. She worked the dock area where the ship guys came in, and she always talked about the Asian boats and she preferred the asian guys because they had little ones and she didn’t get sore. She called them “cigarette lighters” and she would hold up a plastic lighter and say “they’re just like that!”. She would see 5+ dicks a day when she was working, so got to see lots of dicks from lots of different countries (and see them in action, not just BPFL). You probably won’t call that a scientific study but it’s still proof. All the girls would rush to get the Asian boat guys so they didn’t get stuck with the European boat guys and larger dicks.

(edit; I have nothing against Asian guys, I was just amazed that there are smart people on this forum that were unaware of race differences in penis size).


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Originally Posted by sta-kool
Link to full text of the study:

Am I normal? A systematic review and construction of nomograms for flaccid and erect penis length and circumference in up to 15 521 men

David Veale, Sarah Miles, Sally Bramley, Gordon Muir, John Hodsoll
First published: 8 December 2014
BJU International Volume 115, Issue 6

https://onlinel ibrary.wiley.co … .1111/bju.13010

Ah, thanks for posting that. Good looking out as always.


Stats as of now: 20 cm BPEL/ 14 cm GIRTH. Started out at: 16 cm BPEL/ 11.8 cm GIRTH.

Hmmm i always feel like these studies are put out to make small guys feel normal lol. Seems like all the women i talk to have seen huge dicks everywhere. As an example i just got out of a long term relationship where i always felt that my partner perceived me as small. For most of the relationship i was 6.125” bpel and 5” EG.

She had been with 4 guys before me 3 of which she claimed were far bigger then me and one that she described as a pencil dick. Anyways now that its over she bought a vibrator cause she claims she doesnt want any relationship with anyone for a while. So she calls me the other day and tells me to feel better as apparently she is a size queen and its not me. The vibrator she bought is 5.25” insertable and 5.25” girth she claims she cant even feel it basically and this thing vibrates and twirls around and stimulates her clit at the same time etc and after 10+ minutes she was just bored lol.

So she bought two other big ones one that is 8” insertable and 2” wide(what im guessing is 6.5” girth) and another that is 9” insertable and 2.5” wide no clue what that equals to in girth. Long story short the 8x2” is very nice and can make her climax after some effort but she can take it 100% no problem and the 9x2.5” she says is great, it needs some warm up and she has to go slow at first but she can take almost the full length and all the girth. She says the 3 big guys were between these two dildos in size. So if this study is right did she just happen upon three huge outliers or is this just bullshit and there are alot more big dicks out there then we see.

Originally Posted by Johngalt987
Hmmm i always feel like these studies are put out to make small guys feel normal lol. Seems like all the women i talk to have seen huge dicks everywhere. As an example i just got out of a long term relationship where i always felt that my partner perceived me as small. For most of the relationship i was 6.125” bpel and 5” EG.

She had been with 4 guys before me 3 of which she claimed were far bigger then me and one that she described as a pencil dick. Anyways now that its over she bought a vibrator cause she claims she doesnt want any relationship with anyone for a while. So she calls me the other day and tells me to feel better as apparently she is a size queen and its not me. The vibrator she bought is 5.25” insertable and 5.25” girth she claims she cant even feel it basically and this thing vibrates and twirls around and stimulates her clit at the same time etc and after 10+ minutes she was just bored lol.

So she bought two other big ones one that is 8” insertable and 2” wide(what im guessing is 6.5” girth) and another that is 9” insertable and 2.5” wide no clue what that equals to in girth. Long story short the 8x2” is very nice and can make her climax after some effort but she can take it 100% no problem and the 9x2.5” she says is great, it needs some warm up and she has to go slow at first but she can take almost the full length and all the girth. She says the 3 big guys were between these two dildos in size. So if this study is right did she just happen upon three huge outliers or is this just bullshit and there are alot more big dicks out there then we see.

Human have a tendency to find evidence for whatever view they already hold, while denying evidence of the contrary.

The majority of us here on TP think we are small, so we find ways to justify that viewpoint.

Here is a study of more than 20k men, where measurement was performed by trained personnel, following the same standard we do here: bone pressed for length and at the base and mid-shaft for girth.

But because it turns out we might be Better off than we feel, we don’t believe it.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

This is anecdotal, but being married and out of circulation, I tend to end up in a number of after work conversations with drinks where these topics develop effortlessly. My theory is that girls who are prone to have more partners and play the Tinder and bar hook up scene are far more likely to meet up with the “players” who are hung and not embarrassed to play the field in today’s penis obsessed culture.

So many of the younger guys in the office do not date, do not talk to the women in the office or outside, and do not have partners for unhealthy periods of time or ever. My guess is that they are also penis obsessed and don’t feel like they measure up and have chosen to not participate. These guys appear to be really messed up.

Both trends above would skew the female perspective of what is average or to be expected.

These guys are admittedly at home playing video games, watching porn, and they are potentially out of circulation for life. When I was younger there was a lot more flirtation and short 1 to 2 month relationships where people would rack up there 5 to 10 partners before marriage. Everyone I knew was out having sex with whatever parts they came with and penis size was never an issue. I mean never. If anything, I would hear girls talk about rejecting guys that were too large. I would hear things like “He dropped his pants and there was no way that thing was going inside me. Deal over!”

Not sure how this trend ever gets reversed. Bring on the robots!

Originally Posted by avalon0531
This is anecdotal, but being married and out of circulation, I tend to end up in a number of after work conversations with drinks where these topics develop effortlessly. My theory is that girls who are prone to have more partners and play the Tinder and bar hook up scene are far more likely to meet up with the “players” who are hung and not embarrassed to play the field in today’s penis obsessed culture.

So many of the younger guys in the office do not date, do not talk to the women in the office or outside, and do not have partners for unhealthy periods of time or ever. My guess is that they are also penis obsessed and don’t feel like they measure up and have chosen to not participate. These guys appear to be really messed up.

Both trends above would skew the female perspective of what is average or to be expected.

These guys are admittedly at home playing video games, watching porn, and they are potentially out of circulation for life. When I was younger there was a lot more flirtation and short 1 to 2 month relationships where people would rack up there 5 to 10 partners before marriage. Everyone I knew was out having sex with whatever parts they came with and penis size was never an issue. I mean never. If anything, I would hear girls talk about rejecting guys that were too large. I would hear things like “He dropped his pants and there was no way that thing was going inside me. Deal over!”

Not sure how this trend ever gets reversed. Bring on the robots!

Younger women (Iess than 30) tend to be third wave feminists, who beIieve they are owed a man who can provide, fuck and toIerate their narsissistic view of Iife. The reaIity is that guys just stear cIear and pIay video games and watch porn.

I have been criticised here for being misogynistic, but the truth is emerging and young guys are opting out. ThankfuIIy, otherwise we wouId be in for another generation of miserabIe men.


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