Originally Posted by sparkyx
Sounds like you nailed it! I will try a hold on my reverse kagal too.
I ‘ve been watching this thread in the same way I think you do. Reading every new post and experimenting as often as I get time to, so I can finally understand what is this ballooning people in here talk about. Usually, I doubt what I don’t know or can’t be convinced by logical argument for it’s truth, so I do the same when it comes to ballooning. But, that night was strange. I mean, the feeling was getting better and better, not the emotions inside, the feeling of the penis in my hand. Stronger and certainly fuller than usual. I didn’t measure or something, but it felt different. Even if the measuring was the same, the thing that was odd was that even if I stopped stimulation for a little while, it didn’t go down, it didn’t lose some of the size, it stayed (especially the head part which is usually first to “go down”) the same; strong and full.
What was my conclusion ?
After reading all of this thread and many of the ballooning threads the past two years I am a member in this forum, I ‘ve read many thoughts on what might be an obstacle or what might be helpful which lead to me questioning the method and the approach I have on the subject. That night, the difference from the other times I tried it was really one (except from the light amount of THC in my blood); I was really focused. No questions, no thinking. The only thoughts I made were; “two more minutes before I give up”, or “this feels great”, you get the picture. Usually I tend to be more sceptical about it, thoughts like “Perhaps that will never work for me, I drink too much coffee and that might be the cause” (I DO drink too much coffee) take over while trying to get it work.
So, I seriously believe that if something is to be achieved that is through putting your focus on positive things and do not get sceptical while doing it, leave it for the time after the battle.
Originally Posted by Kazooplayer
So - and yes, this rant is going somewhere - my conclusion is this : I do believe that controlling your kegels, be it through reverse kegels or act of will, I do believe this will help you balloon effectively, but I also can’t say on what mechanic it’s working, and I can’t say how healthy I believe this is… I’m looking for feedback now, you guys help me.
Coming from a past where I had problems with premature ejaculation, I learned two things:
1) Avoid involuntary kegeling while masturbating/edging/ballooning (?) by being relaxed and focused on what I do, after a while you find that it’s all a matter of habit. Tough to break at the beginning, easy to follow after you form it in a different way.
2) When it comes to erection quality, staying power and ejaculation habit is really close to what seems to be instinctual. One must experiment a lot to find which is what and fix what he can if he is not satisfied with oneself.
So, more on what you say, let me say that during the session that I described what I did was a little different than what you described. I wasn’t kegeling at the beginning, not at all. I started massaging the whole penis doing a full movement from head to base with my hand. Then, when I started to get near to 100% erection I put my other hand at the base and started pressing lightly at the point where my penis attaches to the pubic bone (top). At no point did I consciously stop rubbing the underside, but after the first 15 minutes, I was just touching it less and less.
What is interesting, while in the first, let’s say 5 minutes, there was no kegeling (voluntary or not), I thought to myself; now let’s balloon. So I started doing 1 strong reverse kegel holding it for 30 seconds (perhaps a little more or a little less) and then relaxing for 30 to 60 seconds, when I felt I could hold it for sometime, I kegeled again. Between kegeling, erection stayed full like what it was during reverse kegeling and I kept massaging top of the base (actually pressing a little in, releasing pressure and repeating) and a little massage on the part under my shaft (which was getting less and less). Veins were getting more prominent, head at the full expansion, shining and the CC feeling at it’s max.
What I want to illustrate by giving more details about what I did, is that every single kegel was under my control and was affecting the process in a positive way. I have noticed that by doing a normal kegel, after I release it some of the blood that comes into the penis (the part of the CS and the head mostly) goes out, leaving the head almost empty. While, in this process, every kegel, was reverse and was adding to what I was doing. Timed well and fully under my control.
So, basically I agree that kegels are important. I think perhaps they are the key. What I am sceptical about is that what works for me, might not work for someone else, so for the people interested, give it some experimental time.
When I find some time to try again, I will report back.