Clamping: Advanced Empirical Discussion

I’m not convinced that "PE experience" is going to be enough to protect you from conditions that are not even fully understood by the medical research community.

Reperfusion injury is only one of the possible consequences - and there are many others.

Please do your homework thoroughly and be very, very careful - some of these consequences are a one-way street.

lil1 :lep:

Oh yes, always be careful; and don’t try this if you aren’t very experienced PEer.

But is my understanding that works planned here is based on sets shorter than 20 minutes, so a reperfusion injury isn’t higher with this kind of approach than with ‘regular’ clamping.

It’s certainly something I’ve thought of many times. My clamping gains have come within the past 3 months though, so I think my main problem was not enough time/frequency to see results. Also, I have a hard time taking a day off at all so a decon break will be tough! I’d like to try this routine for 4 weeks and if I don’t see any gains then maybe a decon will help.

Advice is always appreciated ;)

Thank you for brining this up lil.

I am familiar with reperfusion injuries due to clamping but I don’t think I will be at risk of this because I do not clamp tight enough or long enough to induce an actual ischemia. I don’t clamp tight enough to restrict outflow completely, just tight enough to restrict it some, and provide additional engorgement. This is also why I never kegel right after unclamping. I don’t want anymore blood coming in then is normal, as any extra may increase the chances of a reperfusion injury.

Interestingly enough, I saw in that wiki article that a compound called Glisodin can help prevent this kind of injury from happening. I just googled it and found that it can be purchased. Maybe I’ll look into adding this just for additional safety while clamping.

Just tell me when to look the other way - I don’t want to witness any avoidable train wrecks …. :eek:

lil1 :lep:

Ok. Look the other way, Lil. :D

:chuckle:

Seriously, please be very careful. :)

lil1 :lep:

Out of curiosity, Lil, have you ever clamped?

Yes, but not regularly for several reasons.

1. I’m going for length first but I seem to gain girth whether I want it or not. I may not need it.
2. Discolouration - some people like it, I’m not so fond of it.
3. It’s a very powerful exercise that has to be performed carefully - risks can be higher. (Yes, I know that all forms of PE carry risks, but IMO, clamping can be proportionally riskier if commensurate care is not taken - it is a more advanced exercise, absolutely not for newbies).
4. More girth will make my penis look shorter.
5. Try sticking something with more than 6” girth in your mouth - I’d prefer not to limit my oral sex options too much!

lil1 :lep:

So you didn’t see any gains at all in the first 4 months? Nothing in length or girth?

I saw a slight gain in base girth but nothing else in terms of length or girth, nothing mid-shaft at all in the first 3-4 months of clamping. I’m not really sure how I even stayed persistent but I have now seem some small gains so I’m ready to try a new routine like this.

After reading through this thread again it looks like LV has been using a schedule similar to what marinera and I had talked about, slowly increasing volume throughout the week, then backing off the give time to recover. I think doing this while increasing volume over a period of 2-3 weeks then allowing a week to recover with much less sets would be a very good routine and way to test the principles in this thread. I have a routine put together that I would like to use to test it out but I think it would be better if I post that in the other thread, I don’t want to get this thread sidetracked. I would like to see more discussion and more people offer their insight on clamping and what has been discussed so far.

I am heavily busy with my thesis guys. I hope marinera can guide The Man…I’ll try to check in when I can. Sorry for the absence.

I want to make this clear, since I haven’t inserted my personal experiences that much into this thread:

I believe that TUC should always be increased before frequency is, constrained to a max TUC of 18 minutes for safety issues. Marginal gain from increased TUC has been far greater than increasing sets per day, in my personal experience.

I also believe that the clamp should be tightened as much as possible without pain.

This is contrary to Drilla and Big Girtha’s views. Drilla used much lower constriction levels, and Big Girtha emphasized frequency over TUC. However, he did so because of health issues I believe. I have tried all the methods and this is my current opinion.

Note:

1. Beware with erections enhancers. One of the ways to gauge how much fatigue you are carrying is through your ability to get an erection. Since you are now intending to try much higher fatigue than you have ever experienced, the enhancer could make it harder to gauge how much you are truly handling. I might say to lay off the enhancer until you are dealing with fatigue that you are aware of through experience, or not to do 10 sets on some days from the start.

2. There is no need to stay erect while clamped. This is Big Girtha’s observation and I agree with it. This has sort of been debunked. I’m not sure if gains are greater if we stay erect, but its not necessary. Due to my levels of expansion (skin is too tight) and constriction, it would be painful to attempt to sustain an erection through physical stimulation anyhow.