Originally Posted by LongVehicle
Not really. We are not enduring long periods of constriction. TUC is constrained at 18 minutes for me. All thats new in the OLF/OLR method is simply recognizing how we carry fatigue and how we carry recovery over time. We are just looking at it from a simpler perspective…instead of going by rules of thumb, we can use this to test out what we are doing to ourselves. This could be messing with prostate issues. That’s all I have really come up with.
Drugs are irrelevant here, I can’t imagine any sort of codependent side effect. I’m not sure what you mean exactly. I need cialis because I encounter ED during the time that I am using other drugs (side effect). I don’t intend to use it to surpass normal fatigue indicators.
I’m going to have to agree with you here LV. Sounds risky, but when you are conditioned for it, know your dick well, and are one of those “more is more” kind of guys, this shit is the best bet for good gains.
Want to see some scary shit, look at the chemical PE threads. Guys shooting their dick with needles! Now THAT scares me… Newbie routines and gentle manual exercises work for some guys, and for usually only modest gains, most of which are really improved EQ in disguise. Once someone is truly ready for it, clamping is the fastest and best way to gain girth, hands down.
LV- I take it you finally got your Cialis? If so, how’s that going for you? When the idea here is to attain the most expansion/engorgment under clamp, there is nothing better. Also, forgive me if I missed it, but are you using ADS and/or a cock strap or ring after your routine? If not, I highly recommend it.
These past few weeks, as I have stepped up the intensity of my clamping and taken out pumping, I’ve really seen a difference. Flaccid and erect, even EQ is up. I’m so stubborn to post/update stats, but I can now say my dick is bigger than it has ever been in my life, even at the peak of my first 2 years of PE before my years off, and subsequent EG losses due to lack of a maintenance routine. I think I will wait until 9/1/09, which will be a year back at full-time PE to post a new measurement. That way I can post 5.XX EG confidently. For me that is a big deal. I started at a pathetic 4.375EG in the beginning. To join the 5+”EG club has been a fucking dream. This clamping shit works. Worth the risk? You bet!
To simplify, I’m closing in on a cemented 1/2” EG gain, beginning PE again on 9/1/08, through now. More than half that has come in the past few months. Wonder where I would be now if I didn’t still smoke cigarettes and drink a few beers a day?… I eat pretty good though, if that makes a difference.
Something else to consider, there is definitely a right and wrong way to clamp, at least from a gains perspective. I’ve read of many who “clamped” and didn’t gain much, if at all. As has been discussed in this thread, TUC, intensity, number of sets, and in my opinion ADS are critical. Half-hearted efforts will yield half-hearted results. BG is a good example, though a bit on the extreme side.