Punctuated PE Theory

Clubber how do you break up that 20 minutes of clamping? 4x5 minutes or a single 20 minute set? I have always been hesitant to hold my manual clamps for more than 5 minutes due to the discoloration it may give me.

Something I have been doing recently, which is giving me amazing in clamp expansion (I would guess about 0.6” of non-edema girth expansion), is combining Horse 440’s and manual clamping into a single set.

I saw I diagram on here somewhere that showed how the blood from the glans and CS actually drains into the two CC Chambers. This would perfectly explain why Horse 440’s give such great CC expansion (squeezing the glans blood into the CC Chambers, while they are clamped off).

My variation has been this:

1. Clamp off the base with finger and thumb. Being around 80% erect so as to be able to get a reasonably small/tight grip at the base (to cut-off the deep drainage veins).
2. Kegel and if needed, Uli to get maximum glans expansion.
3. Perform a Horse 440 squeeze, holding for around 30 seconds (basically just squeeze the glans blood out, into the CC Chambers, in a controlled manner, over a 10-15 second period, then hold squeeze)
4. Hold base grip and keep manual clamp for a couple of minutes.
*next step is important*
5. At this point, the glans is deflated. We want to effectively reset it to full expansion without losing any shaft expansion. To do this, I ever so slightly loosen base grip and kegel hard several times to fully inflate the glans back up to it’s former size.
6. Now repeat steps 2-4.

WARNING: This is an extreme exercise, use with caution and only if experienced in PE.

The expansion is amazing. We effectively use the glans as a blood pump, pumping the CC Chamber bigger and bigger, for maximum possible expansion. I have only been doing it once a week at best (usually less than that) but I now have the time to commit. It may well yield big gains.

I’m reviving this for the benefit of new members.

I just came off of a three week break and my member is sore post workout (the good kind of sore) for the first time in a long time.

My routine is back to 10 minutes stretching, 10 minutes jelqing and I didn’t loose any of my gains during my break.

Punctuated PE FTW!

Reviving killer threads from my favorites list (which I recommend checking out)…here’s the first…

xeno

Ooooh mate…

What did you do?

I have to read the whole thread now. First page hooked me……

Ooooopsy :thumbs:

xeno

Seeing how xeno is sitting at 9+ now I wonder.. Why is this not known more.

Like, why is there not a big thread at the starting/home page (like where we can read about firegoats) where it tells use to implement
A macroscopic cycle on top of microscopic such as 2 days on, 1 off, 5on2off and so on.

Would it be wrong to assume, that one such cycle could be:
3 months on, 1 month off? Thats 4 months, meaning 1 year would yield 3 such cycles.
Or what about 2 months on, 1 off with 4 such cycles per year.

Those who have implemented it and know the finer details (xeno and co.), whats your thought on that?
Or is it just the same as the microscopic cycling where it all depends on the person (2on1off might work better for guy A than B while 5on2off might work better for B over A)..

Best regards

Edit:
Either way, I see the same logarithmic decay with my gains.
From october last year to new year (3 months) I have had a nice gain of about 1” BPEL. I actually didnt gain much (if any at all) in the third month (december).
So, new year came, I took off 2 weeks. Then I saw very miniscule gains again, but over the next 3 months like + 0.2-0.3”.
The theory might apply here - taking breaks allowed me to gain again.
So.. Currently, I am in my 1 week decon break (I do a 6 weeks on, 1 week off) but after reading this (again.. Seems I have forgotten) I am highly considering to
Extend my break to an entire month - pretty much the entirety of april.
Whether this is effective or not, I will see later on. To me, its actually more interesting whether its more effective than just a simple week off.

Edit2:
Btw, xeno, I also started with 6.5” :D
I would feel very lucky if my natural limit is not +1 BPEL but something between 1.5-2”.
I would be stoked to reach 8” or perhaps 8.25” (more I personally think is counterproductive.. :P)

Going through the whole thread thnaks to my mate xeno… I think that decon breaks must be proportionate to the work that has been done during the on PE period.

For example if you are 8 weeks on then maybe 15 days will be a good decon break. If you are 6 months on maybe 2 months will be a good decon break.

That is what I am getting going through the whole thread.

I have to add that I am a gym rat. I am working out since I was 12 years old, lifting and calisthenics. I have observed that I am gaining, muscle or gettin leaner during decon periods, For example if I am working on a routine to get leaner, I came to notice that during the routine period I have moderate results. When I finish the scheduled routine in the first 2 weeks of decon, my body seems to utilize the work I have done and I am losing fat faster, even if I eat kind of ,well…not recommended. Maybe it’s on the person, maybe it is the rule…. I don’t know.

What I think I know, is that decon breaks seem to favor all kinds of gains when you are doing any kind of exercise…Maybe it is a brain thing and not a muscle or tissue thing…

Your body doesn’t change instantly after any kind of exercise, it sets a process in motion that can take hours to weeks to months.

I Never think of decon breaks from lifting just longer rests between sessions, I think PE is the same, when I overworked I got nowhere.

I think we are on the same boat mate.

Another example. When I am training for strength, I see little differences when on the program. After finishing it during rest weeks or month the gains are coming very fast. I could go to the gum and lift perhaps up to 10% heavier than when I was on the program.

Now the question is if we can establish a pattern between on periods and decon time needed to kickstart gains. Or maybe it is a personal thing to each individual.

But then again, there must be something that can work for the majority. There must be..

I’m bringing an old one but a good one back to life. I just took 6 weeks off and look forward to making more progress

I definitely think there is something to the less is more approach, at least for me.

I started out two years ago with the linear newbie routine, progressed to the newbie and saw some gains. After about a year I’d gained roughly a half inch in length and a little less than that in girth. That was OK because, truthfully, I got into this for better EQ which has in fact improved very much over the last two years.

Anyway, after one year in, I decided to make a conscious effort to increase my size, especially my length. I did some research and came across a routine to increase length by a member here named CervixHunter. This was a pretty intense stretching routine which I started last spring, 5 days on, 2 days off.

After about two months on this routine I got a bit overzealous with my stretching and bruised the underside of my shaft. This was very discouraging because I was getting results from this routine. I gained about a quarter of an inch in length up to when I got injured.

So I decided to take a month off to heal, which I did. I had taken a few breaks of about a week or so up to that time, but never a month. Anyway, after a month or so I lost maybe an eighth of an inch in length and nothing girth wise.

I started back with the same routine by CervixHunter, except I cut everything in half and now was doing 2 on, 1 off. Guess what? I started gaining again. Within 2 weeks of this I not only got back what I lost during that month off but started gaining, both length and girth.

I stuck with this routine until about two months ago and took two weeks off. I decided to go back to the basics of the Newbie Routine but with my own spin to it. I added horse squeezes and some edging into the mix and I started doing this routine Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

And the funny thing is I’m still gaining. With a variation of the Newbie. Hard to believe but it’s true. I’m a hair under 8” BPEL right now and a hair under 6” MSEG. And EQ is better than ever which is really the main reason I got into this.

So, the bottom line is that I agree with periodic decon breaks and a less is more approach. Looking back now I was overworking my unit with exercise that was too intense and not enough rest days. The proof was that I injured myself and my gains had stalled. Since coming back from my injury and doing less, I’ve gained nearly a half inch in length and maybe an eighth of an inch in girth.

My advice is to incorporate at least 2 to 3 long decon breaks into your routine every year. And try doing less. You may be surprised by the results.

I was.

Interesting take on the tunica and how to maximize growth potential.

Certainly fits the IPR theory.

I have seen this mentioned more than once. I’ve liked the idea for a while now. Same reason I got into IPR.