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Tricks And Tips For Manual Stretching

Beginner curiosity

Hello Mr. Marinera, if I understand things correctly, as a beginner I should start with straight manual stretches in all directions (up, down, left, right) with dry jelqs (privacy reasons) with C grips? And then listen to PIs and decon when necessary and add in more time. Then later down the road when the quantity of the routine is too much, I should progress to advanced exercises. For length I can look into fulcrum stretches and then hanging. For girth I can uli or clamp. Is this a correct roadmap? Where do all the dozens of other exercises fit in? Anyway, thank you for this awesome thread

Originally Posted by Jaam
Hello I asked a question but others got answered and not mine. Maybe it did but I can’t find it. I just buried my Mother the other day so please understand if I’m not seeing it. My questions was about girth and this is it…..
So clamping is really just temporary? This is because of the fluid which is edema? Is there a way
To get girth gains that will stay?


This thread is about stretching, not clamping. Anyway, most of clamping gains are not permanent, but with time the penis will grow. Stable girth gains require a hell of time.

Condolonces for your loss.

Originally Posted by ngolimit

Hello Mr. Marinera, if I understand things correctly, as a beginner I should start with straight manual stretches in all directions (up, down, left, right) with dry jelqs (privacy reasons) with C grips? And then listen to PIs and decon when necessary and add in more time. Then later down the road when the quantity of the routine is too much, I should progress to advanced exercises. For length I can look into fulcrum stretches and then hanging. For girth I can uli or clamp. Is this a correct roadmap? Where do all the dozens of other exercises fit in? Anyway, thank you for this awesome thread

When things don’t work anymore, and decon break aren’t helping either, it’s time to try something different. For length any kind of stretching, hanging manual extenders, all have potential. For girth, clamping and pumping can help. My preferred girth exercise are dry jelqs, but everyone is different.

Originally Posted by marinera

Forget LOT, it is nothing but wrong hypothesis. Whatever your LOT is, best stretching angles are SD and SO. Upward stretching can be useful for girth at some degree.

Yeah, I never did understand how LOT had any credibility. Regarding stretching angle, I have stupidly endured pain and consequent reduced EQ as a result of stretching to the side. Although I am uncertain whether I have obtained my modest length gains due to jelqs or in combination with stretching, I can say that SO has least negatively affected my EQ but I’ve added SD only within the past couple months and it seems fine too. Is there any reason to do both? Also, and I’m sure this has been beaten to death, is stretching before jelqing a strict rule? For me, it seems that I incur less potentially injurious stress if I stretch after jelqing.

The order of exercises is pretty much a matter of personal feelings.

There is no need to perform simple SU stretches (neither to hang OTS, for that matters), any time you are stretching higher than horizontal the effectiveness of stretch goes down, it is just a matter of how the tunica albuginea is built.

Excellent. Thanks for the clarification. I think I’ll continue doing half SD and half SO.

Marinera just wanted to let you know that I am still doing downward fulcrum stretches for girth , its slow but working. I haven’t been posting as much lately but still active . thanks for an informative thread.

Thanks for the feedback Plaidshirt. Yes true girth is built very slowly, but fulcrum stretches coupled with a girth exercise like jelqs or clamping will do the trick for most of people in the long run.

Originally Posted by marinera
Yes true girth is built very slowly, but fulcrum stretches coupled with a girth exercise like jelqs or clamping will do the trick for most of people in the long run.

I agree, according to my experience with fulcrums + jelqing + Horse440’s.

In regular stretches, would it be okay to use one hand to hold the skin back at the base and one hand hold the shaft for the stretch? This is the only way I can actually feel some kind of stretch without my skin pulling over the head.

Why that? Do you grip underneath the glans, with the foreskin retracted? Skin should never be pulled, it will slide on the shaft and will take most of the force; there is video around here of an indian mistic hanging a big rock with his foreskin, go figure.

Originally Posted by marinera
Why that? Do you grip underneath the glans, with the foreskin retracted? Skin should never be pulled, it will slide on the shaft and will take most of the force; there is video around here of an indian mistic hanging a big rock with his foreskin, go figure.

Yes, the grip is two fingers underneath the glans that grip the shaft with toilet paper. If I do not hold the base, the skin ALWAYS slides up over the head! And then the situation occurs where I realize I am actually squeezing the head. It is very frustrating to me and one of the reasons why I quit PE on many occassions.

Well, I am still not figuring out how that happens if you grip your glans uncovered, but if there is a technique that you feel works better for you, then go for it.

Originally Posted by Tom Hubbard
Nobody knew what my term “knuckle grip” meant anyway (and that was mainly a show-off photo after doing the Miracle 7 exercises a few months;-), so good call marinera. Inverted (someone else’s idea) knuckle grip = V grip. Done.

1) Here’s a very simple way to make it VERY powerful without toys: use the heel of your other hand to push down on the top of the shaft while also using it as a lever to pull up with the V-grip. I’ve attached a line drawing that I hope is allowable, in case my description makes no sense. (Based on recent before-and-after measurements after reading a thread here, and looking for maximum immediate gain, I do only 1-second stretches now.)

2) Though no fan of heat (if only because it’s never been convenient for me), after epic (to the point of soreness) early AM stretching sessions (before wife is awake), I like to “apply energy” to the sore area—ligs, shaft—for several minutes, by placing the palm of my right hand over that area. Anyone familiar with energy work will know what I refer to; anyone else will probably think I’m nuts. Thoughts?


Interesting, I’ve always wanted to do energy healing legit like, like I know how to work energy to an extent but I need actual lessons to help me work it efficiently. I find you interesting because I never expected someone with your conscious to be on this site doing PE Haha, I think its awesome having a variety of people, anyway, in reference to your stretch, you only use your energy when doing any stretches? How well has that worked for you, I’m getting tired of using showers and hot water cups to warm up and warm down, id like to learn how to apply energy :) you’re not crazy, people just aren’t aware yet but are slowly starting to wake up :) thanks for your information

ngolimit I have the same problem as you in regards to slipping, it is indeed very fustrating and deterring to keep doing PE. I also can feel the hand slipping and putting pressure on the glans even if the foreskin is retracted.

Take this diagram of the penis as an example , see the end of the red just before the glans. What you need to do is visualize this and envision that you are gripping this part of the penis. Feel around for it and you will notice that you can grab onto this part and it will slip between your grip if you squeeze it a few times. What I do is grip this area softly and feel around for this part of the tunica, once you have a grip on it, ‘slowly’ begin to squeeze to get a good grip on it. If you do it too quickly it will sleep and your grip will be in between the end and the glans.

While you are slowly squeezing use the other hand to keep the foreskin retracted and you will notice the red area will be squeezed between your grip and when you begin to ease into the stretch, the foreskin will stay will stay bunched up and not stretch. If your foreskin stretches and you feel pressure on the glans then most likely you didnt do it correctly. Keep trying until it works, go slowly and I use a overhand OK-grip which i find to be more comfortable. You can try the gripping techniques in this thread until you find that you get the hang of them as they are quite “handy” haha. It takes a bit of practice but take it slowly.

If you are confused with anything I said and need better explaining, just ask me what I meant etc… :D


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