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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
With the ultrasound gel, it seems to soak into the skin fairly quickly. The skin removed somewhat moist with gel, but after just a few seconds there’s no real “goop” anymore. Wondering how much of a problem this is.

Why not get the proven piece of equipment used by Kyrpa and others?


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by waterman888
Hi everyone

I still have my Indian Delta 3 MHz unit - I used it a few times but at the time I wasn’t sure about its effectiveness. So I had bought a reconditioned Dutch machine with a larger transducer head which I’ve used since, which has info on the screen that tells me how much power is being used at any particular moment - so much better.

The guys selling it to me had mentioned that some of the Indian units had variable outputs and weren’t the best quality. I think perhaps it can work OK if you would use a secondary heat source like a rice sock to lay under the shaft, which would also stretch the shaft thinner for the 3 MHz to work better.

Anyway, if anyone wants this unit please let me know. I’d bought it for what I stated above, but actually now I’m happy to let it go to someone on this thread who doesn’t yet have a US machine and wants to start out - after all we’re all helping each other here. Or maybe I can swap it for a thermometer!

I’d be interested to know where you found the 3mhz dutch machine? Would love to buy a similar one, especially with a larger transducer head

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
Is the us pro consider a “highly focused high intensity” ultrasound?


No. None of these therapy machines are.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
thanks Kyrpa

What do you think of this option

LCD Display 3 MHz Ultrasound Therapy With delta -03 LCD Unit 33vhd8 | eBay

Nothing. It is up to you to decide.

I have clearly told the preceferences for the ultrasound equipment enough times already.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
thanks Kyrpa

What do you think of this option

LCD Display 3 MHz Ultrasound Therapy With delta -03 LCD Unit 33vhd8 | eBay

As Kyrpa stated, the proper specifications have been discussed many times. Many people have had the same great results with the US Pro 200 Second Edition.

All those Indian machines are known to be highly inaccurate in power output.

If you wanna go with a 3Mhz device, the SoundCare Plus is a very good unit.

https://www.ten spros.com/sound … und-dq9275.html


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
Thanks Kyrpa

What do you think of this option

LCD Display 3 MHz Ultrasound Therapy With delta -03 LCD Unit 33vhd8 | eBay

I have two Indian 3mhz machines I’d sell at a very reasonable price if you’re interested, message me privately.

Igigi & Kyrpa I’m trying to determine if there is another method asides from OTL with the 1mhz? An electric heating pad underneath? Anything that can retain and generate heat this way I could be extending strait out and use the US on the dorsal

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020

Igigi & Kyrpa I’m trying to determine if there is another method asides from OTL with the 1mhz? An electric heating pad underneath? Anything that can retain and generate heat this way I could be extending strait out and use the US on the dorsal

Well. Plausible.

I did get great feeling, heating and results recently using the medical gelatin pad with US while in extender.

But. My feelings are just as worthless as anyone elses.

You will need to wait for me giving any recommendations. It wont be happening without data to prove the efficiency.
In production though.

In the meanwhile you can have glance in my log to see what I am talking about.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well. Plausible.

I did get great feeling, heating and results recently using the medical gelatin pad with US while in extender.

But. My feelings are just as worthless as anyone elses.

You will need to wait for me giving any recommendations. It wont be happening without data to prove the efficiency.
In production though.

In the meanwhile you can have glance in my log to see what I am talking about.

Thank you so much for everything you have brought and keep bringing to this community my friend. Your name and contributions will be remembered for eternity as a game changer and a revolutionary approach to PE. And of course I am positive some day the scientific community will acknowledge this novel approach as valid. Perhaps not recommended, but valid. All the way until now the general consensus of the medical community is that penile enlargement without surgery is not possible. They do validate data from traction devices though, but as random and inaccurate. With the UltraSound approach brought by you, there is no debate anymore. As many more members try the therapy with proven results, it will become The Norm, as the foundation of PE.

Thank you Kyrpa. As more and more members join this protocol, members who really need help, those who were not blessed with an average penis, will be the most satisfied and rewarded by this science. It will become a life changer for many.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Thank you so much for everything you have brought and keep bringing to this community my friend. Your name and contributions will be remembered for eternity as a game changer and a revolutionary approach to PE. And of course I am positive some day the scientific community will acknowledge this novel approach as valid. Perhaps not recommended, but valid. All the way until now the general consensus of the medical community is that penile enlargement without surgery is not possible. They do validate data from traction devices though, but as random and inaccurate. With the UltraSound approach brought by you, there is no debate anymore. As many more members try the therapy with proven results, it will become The Norm, as the foundation of PE.

Thank you Kyrpa. As more and more members join this protocol, members who really need help, those who were not blessed with an average penis, will be the most satisfied and rewarded by this science. It will become a life changer for many.

Dear Igigi,

You as well should get some credit for preaching the word of US, and helping people whenever they have a question, and probably helped Kyrpa a great deal not leaving everything on him to take care of.

However I do not agree with what you are saying about US-assisted PE being the new norm and the foundation of PE. The reason why is that there are only data received from a handful of members, all others are just anecdotes.

This community have already helped so many members, and if the aim is to continue with this, we are in the need of data from all those who actually are running the protocol, and we need(as you have mentioned several times) people to read the entire thread, including Q&A.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Sensei891
Dear Igigi,

You as well should get some credit for preaching the word of US, and helping people whenever they have a question, and probably helped Kyrpa a great deal not leaving everything on him to take care of.

However I do not agree with what you are saying about US-assisted PE being the new norm and the foundation of PE. The reason why is that there are only data received from a handful of members, all others are just anecdotes.

This community have already helped so many members, and if the aim is to continue with this, we are in the need of data from all those who actually are running the protocol, and we need(as you have mentioned several times) people to read the entire thread, including Q&A.

Cheers

Thank you so much my friend.

And I agree with you, perhaps I did no explain myself correctly. My comment about becoming the foundation of PE, I am talking in the very long term, in the far distant future. You know, most of the protocols of conventional PE that has given so many results throughout the years to so many people, were established and experimented well over 15-20 years ago. Before that, PE existed in some porn sites as a .txt file with “milking” or jelquing techniques, stretches, and hanging.

In the same way is that I can forsee that Kyrpa’s approach will gain popularity as time goes by with members experimenting, trying variables, collecting data, which will transform it into an established process of PE in the far future.

The difference, and perhaps the greatest difference, is the unique unquestionable scientific approach of Kyrpa. This is not bro-science, is not just trial and error, it has been based on existing scientific studies and research performed on the multiple tissues, specifically in this case, in connective and tendon tissue which is the structure of the tunica/septum.

This will not replace existing conventional PE, this will become part of the process in order to target specific tissues depending on the situation of each individual.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Thank you so much for everything you have brought and keep bringing to this community my friend. Your name and contributions will be remembered for eternity as a game changer and a revolutionary approach to PE. And of course I am positive some day the scientific community will acknowledge this novel approach as valid. Perhaps not recommended, but valid. All the way until now the general consensus of the medical community is that penile enlargement without surgery is not possible. They do validate data from traction devices though, but as random and inaccurate. With the UltraSound approach brought by you, there is no debate anymore. As many more members try the therapy with proven results, it will become The Norm, as the foundation of PE.

Thank you Kyrpa. As more and more members join this protocol, members who really need help, those who were not blessed with an average penis, will be the most satisfied and rewarded by this science. It will become a life changer for many.

Thank you my friend you have become the voice of enthusiasm encrypted in this approach.
You were able to convince me and probably some others with the gains you reached, on your first attempt to replicate my concept of particular exercises produced in conjunction with the ultrasound induced heat.
That coming after the decade long plateau and highly abusive forms of PE is enlightening.

If there will be a revolution or not it is not for me to consider, it is the sleeping beauty of a PE co. to decide.
Having some success inside the PE community is another thing if there should be any recognition amongst the academic group.

Having a proper studies decent enough to be published in any of the influential medical journals would a task.
It would be a task even coming inside the respected academic community and would need a mountains to climb coming outside the ranks.

To be recognized these publications and peer to peer review platforms are the only way to have anyone inside the industry to have even a glimpse on this.

I do hope I have helped you and few others as well. That is a grand prize already.

To be able to help further I think there is only one way left. That is getting a ton loads of data in a proper form from all of you interested to develop size..
Without convincing ground study material we are not ever going to be heard.

That starts from basics . Stress strain curve , Then stress strain curve with third variable time. Not from me and couple others but from hundred penises. I feel amazed that have not been done 20 years ago.

Then the same thing with the heat applied to determine the effect of heating on the achieved strain.

Then we need a lots of data how the strain percentage evolves over weeks and months.

Then we need tons of data to show how this all is delivered to gains. From the gainers and non-gainers as well. There certainly will be non- responders as every medical treatment do have in realistic world.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Sensei891
Dear Igigi,

You as well should get some credit for preaching the word of US, and helping people whenever they have a question, and probably helped Kyrpa a great deal not leaving everything on him to take care of.

However I do not agree with what you are saying about US-assisted PE being the new norm and the foundation of PE. The reason why is that there are only data received from a handful of members, all others are just anecdotes.

This community have already helped so many members, and if the aim is to continue with this, we are in the need of data from all those who actually are running the protocol, and we need(as you have mentioned several times) people to read the entire thread, including Q&A.

Cheers

Sensei891 being true to his words here for what I am both happy and priviledged.

He have asked if he can do something to contribute the task and with only minor consultation he took the matter in his own hands.

Having performed and continuing to perform series of preliminary tests to determine ultrasound effectiviness during clamping.
These results giving us a well thougth platform to run a credible test pattern with hopefully severel participants other than us two only.

We will be publishing where we are at this moment during the january.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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