When is penis size too big & counterproductive?

I have never heard about a women that wanted more than 8 inches. Most of them prefer smaller than that.
And who wants to hang out with freaks. I prefer a normal girl that likes me for other things than my dick.
But there is people for everything I guess.

I’m in the same predicament I want to keep gaining to have a NBEL of 9 in and a BPEL of 9.5 in I’m worried this is too big my NBEL is 8.5 and BPEL is 9 in and girth is at 6 I feel like I’m at the perfect size but want more and to be honest I should probably stop.

Should probably stop, yeah. I’m not one to tell people how to live.. But I mean, you beat the game broski haha. You have a penis as large as or larger than pornstars. If you get to the point where you really feel like you can’t help it, then maybe a little therapy or something.

I’m reading through this thread and figured I’d share my experience(s) in terms of being 5.5in girth in the mid section down to the base. I’m often told it’s “thick” and even had a girl I saw in college specifically mention my girth when talking 5 years later.. I was commenting on how I wish I was longer and she said “but that girth though” which was cool. We were friends with benefits for over a year, so she had to like somethin’ haha. I also have a slightly upward curve that draws some compliments or interest here and there (but also makes me look slightly “shorter” due to it going up instead of out. I’d say with a decent number of women I normally REALLY feel when I’m pushing in that first time or two thanks to the thickness.

When I look at it, I don’t see that. I don’t see thick, I see an average cock at best. I know part of it is just.well, we see our own every day and most of us probably have the idea we’re smaller than we are. Unfortunately for me, unless I’m at 100% near busting erection, I’m slightly shorter in length than I am in girth.

My girth is consistently 5.5 (got up to 5.7 after jelqing!) but my length is between 5.25-5.55 NBPEL depending on strength of erection (the high end after jelqing). Highest I’ve gotten my BPEL after jelqing was 6.5 (woop!) and after jelqing/stretching/ejaculating I managed to stretch to BPFSL of 6.8! My fat pad appears to be getting relatively low as I’m on a cut.it’s about 1in now if I really press down hard.. And I believe a .5-.75 is as low as it will really go.

Rarely women are like this actually, very rarely.

Yeah it’s true dude! I’m just wondering if us men are victims of our own ego and believe literally everything women tell us during intercourse! All these ‘compliments’ they give us about our size or whatever, I take with a grain of salt these days. I believe most vaginas can accommodate far larger than we think, especially with a bit of time/practice and lube! I know for a fact my buddy is average at best, yet his new sugar baby makes a big deal about him bein ‘so big’ during sex. Now the guy is walking around with big dick confidence, despite the fact she’s the only woman that’s has ever made a comment about him being big (and he’s in his mid- 40’s!) lol.

I just remeasured last night and I’m delighted to say that I have grown since the last time. My new measurements are 6.5” BEG, 5.7” MEG and 7.9” BPEL. And I repeat, I’ve NEVER bottomed out on any chicks ever, or had them unable to take my dick! If anything, it always feels like there’s space in there for more!

Length is overrated, except I would like to have a 6.5”er only in that it opens up more “positions” so it’s not entirely useless lol. And if you happen to be a show-er, having the “hung” look when your flaccid hangs is also a nice perk. Otherwise, “Girth is king,” a mantra I hear more often on my own forum because girth procedures are far more effective & common than length.

I have a unique insight in that I went from 3.5” MSEG to 4.5”, to 5.0”, to 5.5”, and finally 6.3”. I can say confidently that 5.5ish is certifiably thick, and any larger begins to have diminishing returns. The infamous 8x6 goal is, in my opinion, overkill, no matter how much it’d stroke any of our egos to sport a unit that big.

OP said: “I’m now at 8 BPEL X 5.6 mseg (7+ girth at base), & a large glans” and later on went to say ” I’m BIG, but not HUGE!” Bro, you are by all accounts “huge.” If I were in your shoes I’d probably would have retired from PE, only maybe revisiting it from time to time to ensure gains remain cemented.

Great post and very interesting experience. Do you have a post where you sum up your journey and the differences between your girth sizes?
Would love to read that, especially from 5 to 5.5 and now 6.3.
I am also happy this thread confirms my own carefully formed belief that 6 inch girth is already a bit too big.
I currently sit at 5.55 and barely need any more girth. However, one additional inch of length from 7.4 to 8.4 BPEL would be neat.

Wow, almost 3 inch girth increase? That’s nuts. Congrats whatever you did.

On topic i guess it depends on what you are going for. You trying to bang chicks that crave a monster then i guess not. Thing is though that i think most women don’t want the monster cock every time they have sex. If you are in a relationship then honestly if you can help it your size should be up to the woman. I told my gf several times that if it ever feels like it might be too much ill stop no questions asked.

Not all in one place. I’ve had posts here dating back to 2008 and then posts on the Phalloboards (the site I run for transparency’s sake) off and on about my experiences. I suppose if I can look back a decade here’s what I’ve gathered:

3.5” MSEG is undeniable thin. Sorry but not sorry, whether by surgery or manual penis exercises, I was never happy with it. If I didn’t have maximum 100% erection quality, even SNUGGER FIT condoms could occasionally slip. Imagine the embarrassment. Then when I came to this place and other PE forums (MyNewSize for the throwback vets who might remember) around 2008, no matter how sincere the welcome, people couldn’t help but admit that in the end, they would never reveal themselves to a woman/man if they sported my girth. Talk about a punch to the gut. I suppose my length was what kept me sane, 5” BPEL, and 6” BPEL (non-cemented) after months of wet-jelqing & edging.

So I began digging. Pumps, clamps, you name it, I learned it. Mostly here really (which probably explains why the Phalloboards shares a similar template to this site, kind of pays homage). But I couldn’t get this nagging realization out of my head that even the BEST CASE scenario, I’d maybe crack “average” in girth. Remember, I’d have to reach close to 5-ish in girth and I was starting with a wee-3.5! Even more disheartening was the realization that I could spend months, years even, with no guarantees. The guys who started with 5inchers who wanted 6 didn’t have it so bad, and I totally got their motivations… at least it was within reach!

Then came phalloplasty. If women could get bigger boobs, whey can’t guys get fatter cocks, I thought? And when I’d bring up the topic, it was almost always met with hostility… AND RIGHTFULLY SO. Phalloplasty from the 1990’s through the early 2010’s were abysmal at best. Highly invasive procedures wrought with complications and butchery, who in their right mind would consider such a path? Well, a 3.5”er might just crazy enough to.

Around 2007 there was another forum called MyNewSize.com (you can use the WayBackMachine if you’re curious) that was basically the surgical penis enlargement forum of its time. It didn’t take long for it to turn into a shill-factory for a Doctor I won’t name here but let’s just say he’s attempted suing Thundersplace in the past and still somehow performs these insanely risky procedures. Every time there was a negative post about the “good doctor”, it’d go missing. However, all the SUPER HAPPY users wouldn’t show a shred of photo evidence. What was I to do when the information I needed so bad was being sold to the highest bidder?!

(Oh, and there was also the Yahoo Phalloplasty Group and if you remember that you are REALLY A THROW BACK VETERAN!)

So I said F*&% it and created my own forum. Somewhere guys who were either hard-gainers or genuinely under-average, could exchange news & developments in medical penis enlargement without stigma or censorship. It was me, and like 20 other guys, many of whom are/were Thunderplace veterans. This was late 2010 and for me, a last ditched effort at finding “my holy grail.” It wasn’t a commercial entity, it was almost like a self-help blog with other like-minded guys at the time.

2011 comes around and there resurfaces a topic that never gained traction on the MyNewSize site. It was a dermal filler called PMMA that was in use around the world, most notably butts and pectorals/biceps. It was a real wild wild west, when guys started to post that they’ll be “taking one for the team,” traveling to Tijuana to get a material injected into them in what can be crudely described as “micro plexiglass in your dick” (although this is far from a practical description I would later learn). Like a snowstorm into an avalanche, it trended like wildfire on my tiny PE site, with guys reporting 0.75”-1.5” gains after a number of treatments. I knew long-term risks were unknown, but the costs were a fraction of American implants, and so I too said F&#$ it and underwent my first round. Local anesthesia, mild prickly pain, and an hour later a new man. I will say though, I thought 4.5” MSEG (final result, your initial result is swelling AND DOES NOT COUNT) was actually thick. Maybe I was so used to 3.5” that I couldn’t believe men needed more than 4.5”.

Then between 2011 and 2015 I underwent a few more procedures, layering myself up incrementally in size. I retired at 6.3” because any thicker and I’d lose any semblance of “naturalness” that I barely had having gone so big (your glans don’t change size, so there happens to be a dwarfing effect. Men with large glans are very lucky). 6.3” at the base, tapering as best as possible to the glans, and it hasn’t been questioned since (which includes double digit partners). I found women with multiple births having appreciated my girth the most, and non-mothers in early-to-mid 20’s causing me pain, even with lube. I’ve heard comments that my 3.5” would have never heard, like “you made me cum 5 times” etc. I’m over 10 years out from my first injection and I’ve experienced zero complication.

After 2015 it was quite clear. Fillers can and do work. They are not without risk and not every result is picture perfect. The Doctor matters, and the quality/type of filler matters. In this time, PMMA has been joined by arguably more efficacious alternatives like Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Radiesse, Renuva, CMC, and Ellanse. We know a lot more about this stuff then ever before. My forum continues to monitor progress reporting in this regard. Around this time, I also decided to transition the site from a “personal blog & forum” to a commercial entity that sticks to its core mission of providing the most relevant and transparent information on the topic matter.

I do have Sponsors, but not at the expense of my readership. I’ve blacklisted Doctors, and turned down Clinics multiple times. My forum and my readership can vouch for this and the content is all there to see.

By the way, avoid silicone in and around the penis. It might have perfectly valid applications in other areas of the body, cosmetic or otherwise, but I’ve seen too many “bad news posts” to faithfully endorse it.

Crazy to think that when I created my username here 15 years ago, I wasn’t lying. And that’s my story for as concise as I could make 10+ years. Thanks for asking CBateman, I got a chance to go down memory lane :)

very interesting perspective, Determined2Gain.

Yes, 3.5 inches girth is heavy, according to calcsd western average that is the bottom 2% of males.

I can imagine how the pe scene was in 2011, thus I can definitely see why you opted for the surgery.

However, if a young (or not so young :-D) guy entered the scene in 2022, I would definitely discourage him from doing surgery.

For length, we have great protocols and even a good amount of girth should be reachable with the right dedication.

It also has the benefit of providing growth in the glans, too, for a homogenous look.

May I ask why you did additional surgeries even after you reached 5 or 5.5 inches girth?

And how happy are you now, is it your dream size?

Because what I was doing was non-surgical, nor carried the cost of traditional surgery… in other words, it was remarkably convenient. With local anesthesia for less than an hour I would become incrementally thicker. The reason I felt the “need” to reach the 6” goal probably had to do with the realization that if I can’t get “any longer”, at least I’d know I was the “thickest she ever had.”

There is something (dangerously) addicting when you can acquire girth so readily and so conveniently - so yea, I would caution people to consider this route, ESPECIALLY younger fellas. I’d say hard-gainers and/or the truly under-average, over 25 with the finances to consider it, ought to be the best candidates. Also be in a good place mentally, this isn’t a decision you make in a fragile-state-of-mind.

Also there are more “temporary” options for those who are concerned about the “tattoo effect” of getting something with near-permanence you may regret later. Either way, not for every body.

I should note that I did have some success with wet jelqs & edging for length. I’ll admit laziness is what’s prevented me from cementing and/or maintaining these gains. I intend on resuming this in the near future (alongside pumping) so see if I can get back that one time I barely touched 6” BPEL.

I see. These fillers today are probably less risky than the practices used 1 or 2 decades ago.

Your points of caution are very reasonable. I in my personal opinion would never advocate for surgery when we made so much progress with pe.

For length, Kyrpa completely revolutionized the field. You can take a look at my log or Kyrpa’s thread and see for yourself if you are after length :-) .

I kid you not, I truly believe you could gain 2 inches of length if you really wanted.

Not that you needed any size mate. Not at all hahah

Ok you guys. You know the vagina stretches to accommodate a baby. I’ve been with girls 6 foot tall and taller that could not handle my cock 8 inches round 7.9 long cock some had no problem. I’ve been with girls 4 ft 9 tall and weight 98 pounds and some could and some couldn’t handle it. It all depends on how they are made up on the inside. I can tell you once you fill them up its easier for them to cum nonstop because you are hitting all the right spots all the time. The more lube that the body provides, the easier it is to take that cock

I’ve encountered plenty of women who can handle me no problem, but say they’re “size queens” and then I’ve also met women who wouldn’t even let me penetrate them once I pulled it out. Two weeks ago I was with a girl I met through Bumble, we started in doggystyle, I lowered her into lazy doggystyle and within a minute she stopped me and said she couldn’t do anymore.

On the flip side I’ve also met women who have taken me balls deep a couple times and loved it.

Just depends on the women. That being said, I think anything above 8 inches in length and anything more than 6 inches in girth is just asking for trouble. Personally I’m a shade over 8.5BPEL and 7.25 EG so I don’t have a very ideal penis for most women, but I also don’t really care. There’s women out there who like my size, I just need to parse through the ones that don’t