When is penis size too big & counterproductive?

For the majority of women: counter-productive starts at 7.5 BPEL & 5.75 EG

That’s quite the compilation of data from anecdotal reports. Despite the limitations of using anecdotes as evidence, there’s an impressively strong correlation between Dynamix86’s analysis of the raw data gathered in the spreadsheet and the findings of formal research.

I suspect that having a self-selecting group here whose members are highly motivated to accurately measure themselves using methods that have been clearly defined by the community helps provide an informal degree of standardization one normally wouldn’t see in reports of personal experiences regarding penis size and women’s feedback. That may help to explain the strong correlation.

I suspect that it also has to do with the relatively large amount of data. Outliers are averaged out and errors in both directions (too high, too low values) will probably compensate for each other to some extent.

Nevertheless, I also find the similarity of the results impressive.

99% is a tall order. I think it’s hard for any kind of dick to be great for 99% of women. Minority need length to cum hard when going deep as i read, many don’t like being bottomed out i read. Many can take great amounts of girth, while what the average woman says is ‘ideal girth’ is very small compared to the numbers thrown around here (see down).

Truth is i don't think we / most of here want a penis that is comfortable with 99% of women at all, it would be 'much to small'.
I think what i and majority of men are drawn to is fantasy of a penis that women struggle with (somehow struggle with it but at the same time admire it so much, in my ideal fantasy it’s a struggle for them to get it inside, but then they somehow get extra-hard orgasms from it).
If that fantasy is really so great is another thing. Surely lots of women can take bigger dicks with pleasure.
I think the fantasy of ‘for some woman my cock is too big and not ideal for them, but for some women they like it extra’ is stronger than the ‘most pleasurable dick on average’.
That’s why the ‘You dick is perfect, the big ones hurt!’ is something i/we don’t like to hear. I guess i would like to have the big one even if it hurts her - on some level. It’s like my animal brain and my logical frontal brain arguing.

‘Your dick is perfect, the big ones hurt!’ vs ‘Your dick is just a little to big!’
-> basically every male i think likes to hear the second one, altough she literally tells you that it’s too big, that it would feel better for her if it was smaller

I mean dirty talk is basically calling the dick big and the pussy small..
‘baby you are perfect, you slide right in and gives me the maximum pleasure’ vs ‘omg baby, i don’t know if it fits’
-> again, every male choses the second one i think

Average bestselling Dildos in america had average girth of 5 inches
Study with wood-penisses, average of ‘best girth for one night’ stand was also 5 inches chosen by women - meaning many chose less than 5 inches
5 inches is 8% larger than the average girth of males with 4.65 inches

With my girth of 5.4 inches it was painful for 2 women out of 20 (was a little girth-smaller before). So that’s 10%, so it was pleasurable for only 90% of women. I guess i should have warmed up better.
Anyway - i mostly see the other women that could take it no problem and think ‘see, it should be much bigger!’
With my length 6.1 inches it worked fucking fully for 149 in 150 women, so that is in the 99% range

So my guess pleasurable for 99% is
6.4x5
6.4 inches non bone pressed length, 5 inches girth
(that’s from the wood penis study for one night stand, actually i should have taken the ideal for a steady partner, which is slightly smaller 6.3x4.8)

If a fairy would come i am not sure if i would choose (guess the first option seems more safe to me (i am 6.1x5.4 right now, i think how large we are informs what we want, there is an effect of always wanting more i guess)

- 6.7 non bone pressed x 5.7
to give women pleasure, being able to thrust in fully, not having to have 15min warmup all the time, still get some anal, not having women tensing their face up in pain
Regarding CalcSd this penis is in top 4% biggest penisses in the west volume wise (meaning 1 in 25 is bigger, 96% of penisses are smaller)

- 8 x 6.5
to become a pornstar and get delivered 18year old women for anal (at least that’s the fantasy of it)
Regarding CalcSd this penis is in top 0.08% biggest penisses in the west volume wise (meaning around 1 in 1000 is bigger, 99.92% of penisses are smaller)

When I see mention of the dimensions of sex toys that are most popular, I have to ask, have you seen how women use sex toys? Usually they are not fucking themselves with them. Usually it is very peripheral stimulation, not a lot of penetration. My point being, what might be ideal in a sex toy, should not be used to draw parallels in what might be ideal in a penis.

In the study about sex toys they are actually talking about Dildos, Dildos are for insertion, so the girth should be valid (length not so much cause there is hardly a downside to having too much length, you don’t have to insert all)

Many great posts in this Thread, my favorite shortened summarized quotes were these

Calling bullshit!!!

Yep but they still vibrate, and it has been my experience that that is usually how they are used, direct clitoral stimulation rather than penetration.

I am currently 8”bp and 5.1” girth. Is the biggest my gf have ever seen, and before me she said size doesnt matter, but now she says actually cares a lot about dick size lol.

So i dont now how big is too big, but it must be reaaaaally big to hurt a girl seriously

I’m at little past 8 inch BPEL and around 6 mseg now and the most I’ve got when thrusting it all in was an “oh you’re going deep”, but no discomfort. Pumped at around 6 3/4 some girls complained about being too girthy (either pain when doing it or feeling sore the following days). But none of that at 6’.

From all the research, it sounds as though the ideal size from a female perspective is around 6.5"-7.0" x 5.0"-5.5". I think a lot of us guys aren’t really doing this for our partners/girlfriends though… it’s more of a confidence or self-esteem thing (or just basically wanting a big dick - like women who want big boobs).

And at the end of the day, if there ARE any problems with girlfriends or partners, we’d all rather them complain that we’re too big rather than too small 😉.

My anecdotal.

I’m about 7 3/4" BPEL and 5 7/8" girth right now, about 6 3/4" NBP (I have weight to lose but not very large).

The women I get with never complain about my length. One (Asian) says I may be too big but keeps coming back. The other (Caucasian) is more regular and can relax to accommodate more than my size by a good bit. The Kama Sutra discusses this size matching problem, but until you get with a lady you don’t know her depths.

Do what makes you happy. I know larger size gives confidence and feels great in the hand.

My whole thread has been when is it going to be enough. It will be enough when everyone just accepts themselves the way they are and stops looking at porn and stupid charts. They can push babies out I’ve only had one girl too afraid and she was just super short and petite. They want at least 7 in length and 5 in girth in my opinion… I’m sorry but I’m saying NBPEL as well.

I have a friend with 9 x 7 and that mfer has multiple hoes hitting him up every damn day for D. they complain about his size nad make jokes it’s going to be too big, text him afterward that their stomach hurts etc and almost ALL come back for more. His types also petite SE Asian women where we live.