Hanging Fatigue

This is a feeling that I just experienced 2 days ago after hanging 9 sets. I’ve also read from Bib and others that this state is crucial for gains to happen. I guess I thought that I could just hang X amnt of weight everyday for 3,4, or 5 sets and gains would happen. Unfortunently, I won’t have the time to hang 9 sets everyday just to get to fatigue. So how do you think hanging 25 lbs for my first set, and then spiraling down as I continue on with sets sound? (I am currently at 15lbs). Also, all of you big gainers through hanging, is this (fatigue) something that you continously felt? How did you personally get to that state? Has anyone gained WITHOUT reaching fatigue?

p.s.: I’ve read alot of people asking what fatigue feels like. Although I am not Bib and I may be wrong, for me it felt like a burning in the ligs (front of my pubic bone) that I had to push myself to hang through. Not really a discomfort in the shaft or any other pain. BUt literally like you can’t weight to take the weights off.

hello???? Comments please. My basic question for those of you who don’t want to read all of my first post is this: Is hanging 25 lbs for as long as I can (Im at 17.5 lbs right now) and then spiraling down the weights as I continue with the sets a good idea? I basically want to reach fatigue without having to hang 9 sets.

And when reading about fatigue, I was here to hang at maximum weight. I am assuming that 25lbs is alot of force on my dick which of course it is. BUt how do you guys determine MAXIMUM weight?

MAX weight is defined as the minimum amount of weight you can COMFORTABLY hang (key word: comfortably) and still make gains. Did you read the other post I put in that thread you started?? I talked about weight and time…you should read it if you have not already.

BBS,
I think that maybe Alrdy is having trouble defining his max weight…after all how do you know you are gaining at the time?

Alrdybig,
My current max working weight is 10 pounds. Some days I can easily reach fatigue within 20 minutes, some days I’m not even close.
I do, at times, do as you suggest. Exceed my normal max weight until fatigue and then drop down the weight as required.

I think he was not understanding what max weight in (in terms of hanging)is and just what type of activity hanging is in general. The term “max weight” when talking about hanging is misleading.

Say we are talking about working out the bench press or running on the track. Your max weight would be 315 lbs or your best time would be a 4 minute mile and both would be an all out balls to the wall effort that would be very strenuous.

In hanging that is what we don’t want. You want the exact opposite. MAX weight in hanging is the MINIMUM amount of weight required while comfortably hanging to “reach fatigue.” In my post above I said “make gains,” that was incorrect and it should read “reach fatigue”.

The reason the two completely differ is because hanging is a completely 100% passive activity and weightlifting is active. Hanging is not lifting weights. In hanging, the actual work is just showing up, and attaching the hanger, and them watching TV, or surfing the net, etc. You’re not going to finish a hanging workout, drenched in sweat saying “man, what a workout.”

If you load up your hanger with a SUPRA-max amount of weight you will not make gains faster, because the TIME you will be able to hang with this weight will be negligible. Also, the chance of injury rises when you do something like this.

Alrdybig said:

>”p.s.: I’ve read alot of people asking what fatigue feels like. Although I am not Bib and I may be wrong, for me it felt like a burning in the ligs (front of my pubic bone) that I had to push myself to hang through. Not really a discomfort in the shaft or any other pain. But literally like you can’t weight to take the weights off.”<

This does not sound like a passive activity to me. You should not be “pushing” anything. Nothing should burning (unless you are experiencing skin stretch discomfort in the beginning). This is exactly what you don’t want. When I’m hanging, its like the weight are not even there. If I FEEL it, I stop, drop weight, or am done for the day.

BBS,

Nice explanation.Great Post!

Thanks for really taking your time out to expalin things to me BBS. Though, something I don’t understand: If you are hanging, and it’s liek the weight isn’t even there, then what exactly does fatigue FEEL like to YOU? Perhaps I am misunderstanding all of this…

Excellent stuff BBS-

Other PE analogies that might help people understand “maximum weight” might be:

When pumping you would not exceed a certain amount of pressure while in the cylinder if it meant you had to spend ten minutes in pain, would you? No, because pain while pumping is clearly bad.

If you were jelqing and every stroke brought with it a burning pain you might lighten the intensity or lessen the number of strokes for fear you were doing more harm than good.

The same applies to hanging: When you feel pain you have “maxed out” and need to lessen your weight - BUT - in order to take advantage of fatigue the amount of weight you go down should be minimal; meaning, just enough so that you can continue to hang without pain.

-Cap

Fatigue would be the point in your hanging day when you DO start to feel “mild” discomfort or soreness, etc. At no point should you be clock watching or feeling like you “can’t wait for the set to end.” It’s not a “grin and bear it” type thing.

I will say this, what you are experiencing is what I did at first, especially since I come from a weight training background. It is hard to make the switch to a completely passive situation that will yield a positive outcome.

But that is exactly what you are dealing with here. Time is your ally. Time and low weight. Look at all of the big (hanging) gainers. The hung for a tremendous amount of sets per week at low weight and worked their way up. Remember, you DON’T want a big max weight. This means you will have to go higher and higher in weight to make gains. The higher you go, the more chance of injury. If you could make gains with a single pound (exaggerated to illustrate point) this would be ideal. You want the least amount of weight necessary.

Hope this helps.

Again, nice explanation BBS

I think too many guys think hanging is a weight lifting competition and try to simply hang with the most weight they possibly can.

How many times to you read about someone starting at 5 lbs, moving to 7.5 lbs and then hitting 10 lbs within the first two weeks! All too often it seems.

A good example of what IMO is a good progression is what Tom Foolery illustrated in his recent gain thread. I believe he went from 5 lbs to 12 in a matter of 3-4 months.

Thanks alot for commenting BBS. In response to your latest reply, now that I am at 17.5 lbs, do you think it makes any sense for me to go back down to 15 lbs, or should I stay at 17.5 lbs for a much longer time than I have been doing with the other weights? I completely understand what you’re saying now about going up in weights quickly and hwo it just makes your penile tissues stronger and stronger. My questions to you are these. What weight are you at now? How long has it taken you to reach that weight? How long have you been at that particular weight? How many sets of 20 min. does it take for you to start feeling fatigue? For someone like me who doesn’t have the time to hang 9 sets everyday to reach fatigue, how would you best advise I go about doing so? And what hanger do you use? Much appreciate your advice. Thanks.

Alrdybig,

If its taking you 9 sets of 20 minutes at 17.5 lbs to reach fatigue, maybe your best bet would be to take and extended break to let the tissues decondition and then start over.

I have studied the progressions of all of the big gainers (hanging). They all seem to follow something similar to what Tom Foolery has done. It takes them time to go up, more time than most wish to wait.

I think if you are progressing right most people will start anywhere from between 1-5 lbs. If you are hanging upwards of 10 lbs out the first day, I am suspect that the person has yet to grasp the concept of a “passive activity” and that they are feeling the weight too much.

Using the 1-5 lbs starting point….I also have a very, very, very, rough theory that for every five-ten lbs. of weight added over time you should have received at least an inch of growth depending on your angles used and your accompanying LOT. For example, BIB’s max weight in his career was 45 lbs BTC. He gained 4.5 inches erect. Look at Tom Foolery: max weight (right now) 12 lbs: gained about an inch. There are others, I have written them down but can’t find it right now but I remember the names like Jelktoid, Captain, etc. They all used slow progressions. Remember, this is a very rough theory.

I use a BIB by the way and these are all OTS by the way. I will tell you this I started back in January after a long layoff due to pushing myself in weight/time prematurely. I started at 2.5 lbs and am now at 5 lbs. I intend not to progress to fast or to slow but plan to be at 6.25 lbs in June, 7.5 lbs. in July, etc. reaching 10 lbs. Sept. If I were to go at a faster pace add a lb. to each month so 10 lbs by August. I will suspect I have added at least a solid inch if not more by then. You get the point though: low weight.

I only hang about an hour and half (hang time) each day right now so just do what you can. Use the time you have, but don’t feel you have to add more weight due to the less time you have available. The weight and gains will come, it will just take longer because you don’t have as many sets per day.

The best advice I was given is what I give to you that really helped me understand hanging: “You should never feel the weight. At no point in time did I ever feel any pain, tension, discomfort, etc. If I did, I dropped weight, adjusted, or was done for the day” (given by BIB) This struck a bell in my head as to just how passive hanging is.

Another way to look at it is this: BIB’s max weight in his career was 45 lbs. That seems like alot right? But he had a highly conditioned dick and lots of gains to go with it. Just like if your bench press goes from 225 lbs to 315 lbs. you can expect to have a stronger & bigger physique to go with it.

So everybody out there that is piling weight on, ask yourself truthfully, is your dick better conditioned to handle this weight, and most importantly do you have the gains to go with it?

Higher weights are a result of gains. Not the opposite.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I feel this is key to hanging success.