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Originally Posted by AndyJ
If I figured that right:

assume a 2” tube: 3.14 square inches of area

desired pull: 6 pounds

1.9 PSI = 6# tension

1.9PSI = 3.86 in. Hg.

IMHO the cross sectional area of the penis and not of the tube is needed to calculate the pulling force

Originally Posted by AndyJ
If I figured that right:

assume a 2” tube: 3.14 square inches of area

desired pull: 6 pounds

1.9 PSI = 6# tension

1.9PSI = 3.86 in. Hg.

1.9 psi is 1.9 pounds per square inch, correct?

I would imagine you’d need 6 psi to get 6 lbs of pressure pulling the penis outwards, which according to Google is around 12hg

Way too high of pressure according to most pumpers… Proceed at your own risk… I know for myself, I’m easily able to go above that pressure, but I’m also able to compression hang with 35lbs as well.. every penis is different…

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IMHO the cross sectional area of the penis and not of the tube is needed to calculate the pulling force

Correct. I use a tube that closely fits my size, so I ignored that. If you’re using a larger tube, you’d want the area of your shaft’s base.

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1.9 psi is 1.9 pounds per square inch, correct?

I would imagine you’d need 6 psi to get 6 lbs of pressure pulling the penis outwards,

If you were pulling on 1 square inch of area, you’d need 6 pounds per square inch to get a 6 pound pull.

However, you have 3.14 square inches, so you only need 1.9 pounds per square inch to get 6 pounds of pull.

The larger the tube (or base, as Rocco25 noted) the more pull you get for the same amount of vacuum.

It’s the same principle as a hydraulic jack; you might only need a 10 pound push on the handle to lift 1000 pounds because the areas of the piston and the ram differ by 100x. The same principle applies to vacuum power brake boosters on cars, but they’re not as easy to visualize as a jack.

Are you saying 5hg in a 3inch wide cylinder is more pressure than 5hg in a 2inch wide cylinder?

It’s the same *pressure*, but it’s not the same *pull*. Pull is area X pressure. The tube or shaft base diameter is the area.

If your tube had an area of one square inch - roughly 1-1/8” in diameter - every pound per square inch of vacuum would give you one pound of pull. But you have 3.14 square inches with a 2” tube, and one pound of vacuum gives you one pound of pull per *each* square inch; 3.14 pounds of pull.

Originally Posted by AndyJ
It’s the same *pressure*, but it’s not the same *pull*. Pull is area X pressure. The tube or shaft base diameter is the area.

If your tube had an area of one square inch - roughly 1-1/8” in diameter - every pound per square inch of vacuum would give you one pound of pull. But you have 3.14 square inches with a 2” tube, and one pound of vacuum gives you one pound of pull per *each* square inch; 3.14 pounds of pull.

So that’s the pull on my pelvis, but not on my penis. My penis isn’t the full size of my cylinder.

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Can you share links to those products? Thanks.

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
I have been studying red light, near infra red, and far infra red. There are studies that suggest a combo of red light and near infrared are a great combo for penile application. I have seen some that suggest a true FIR may not be as good, and possibly harmful. There are actually flexible pads with a combo of red light and near infrared that appear to be suitable to wrap around whatever PE exercise is being performed.

I got a question. I always wonder why theres people who don’t gain anything.

Seems good routine + hanging + heat is the most successful method? Would you agree?

So if I understand the information in this thread correctly, if I PE for one hour and I have a difference in BPFSL indicating a strain of let’s say 6%, I don’t need any additional PE for the day?

I have been doing the Big method with heavier weights for 2 months (up to 15lbs), I got a slight injury recently. And I found this new method thanks to Beefwormer and I want to star. Much less riskier in terms of injury. But have a few questions:

How long should I decon before I start this method? I plan to take 1 month off.

Do you think I can start with the recommended protocol 15 mins @ 18oz cold
30 mins @ 36oz heat
15 mins @ 48oz cool down (pad removed)?

After 15lbs hanging, is 18oz way too light for me? I want to get your opinions on this. Thanks for all your help!

You might need the advice of someone who transitioned from heavy weight compression hanging.
Taking into account that you injured yourself and the 15lbs you might need something between 3 to 6 months.
While hanging up to 15 lbs your unit have become strong. It needs to recover and de-align cells.

But the your starting point will depends mainly on your Mpa threshold = flaccid girth.

It might sound like a cooler but it’s not. This method is working. The only thing you need to do is doing repeatable regimen, don’t overwork your unit (make it strong).

Thanks for your reply brother.

3-6 months!? I think I will die from waiting that long :) My injury is pretty much healed. So I am already getting anxious. Plus I have all the vacuum chambers and FIR from total man ready to go. Ordered an industrial thermometer today to make sure it is heating to 39-42 C range, that sounds super important.

Who do you think I can message about this (advice of someone who transitioned from heavy weight compression hanging)?

What I need to ask to him is how do I know when my decon is complete to make this transition. There must be some general rule of thumbs.

Dude I was hanging 37.5lbs before switching to pumping.

I didn’t get gains immediately but once I started using IR heat and using higher pressures dynamically, I did.

I had the total man IR pad and it works ok but I was hoping the thermedic would be better so I ordered it. I got it today. I think the total man is actually more powerful/generates more heat. I am tomorrow however going to try using them both at the same time, one over the other, double layered. We will see if that does anything.

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