Hanging with FIRe

So is it known if you can strengthen the tissue past the point of no return for this method with previous heavier hanging? Or would a sufficient decon break work? Alternatively could you just focus on girth in the meantime?

Also it was my understanding that we targeted the ligs with hanging and why BTC was recommended. Is this also debunked or is the TA just a better target with the knowledge we have now?

From listening to others that have hung heavy weights a decon should allow the tissue to settle down again, how long that decon is will be a guess. 3, 6,9 or 12 months, you would have to try it and see.

Previously people seemed to suggest ligs first and then TA, because TA was harder to manipulate. Think that applied to compression hanging, not sure as I didn’t say it. What a lot of people have now shown is that the TA can be targeted first as it responds well to light weights and heat. So if you wanted to target both I would go TA first and then ligs as ligs may need more weight.

Though as the scientific studies of the TA show, the strength of the TA varies wildly from person to person therefore the TA approach may not work for all.

SG - you are killing it with results and the info you constantly share.

I think Tutt said 70% replacement/relaxation of the tunica at about 9 months.

Yes. In the early (dark/injury prone) days of PE. The newbie routine quickly followed by a heavy hanging regime was the path to results.

Today. Vac hanging with light/moderate weights and a heating pad is yielding good results with a much less chance of injury.

So far I’m not seeing the results that you did. I’m still keeping at it, just to make sure I’m not being impatient. But I found more success when I just did stretches and jelqs a few years back.

WM12

How does one hang straight out with a desk in front of you?

with a pulley screwed to the desk

I have a hook screwed into my desk. I then attach a pulley to it when I am using it. Then I have a big hook that holds the weights attached by string to my vac hanger going via the pulley. This allows me to hang SO easily and I can also take all the stuff away, leaving only the hook attached to the desk. In case you don’t want a pulley hanging there

I have a monitor attached to my desk. I’m experimenting with the following: Standing infront of a my desk, attach a long string/rope from the vac cup which loops round the monitor arm back toward the front of my desk. This then hangs off the front edge of the desk. I have a basket attached at the other end of the string/rope, which allows weights to be dropped in easily.

The only issue with this is that the string/rope has significant friction along the whole return path, so loads are not accurate. Busy working on something to keep the string/rope off the desk (basically looking for something raised, smooth, and fixed to attach at the front of the desk).

I’ve been hanging with my legs on bed , then a space , where hanger hangs down, then chest on filing cabinet. Hurt my shoulders as I had to adjust positions as i was putting pressure on shoulders, now i let them hang off filing cabinet.

I just wanna make sure I’m understanding this correctly. So for this routine, you don’t actually take any rest days until you get to the deconditioning period. Is that correct?

Nope. 5on/2off.
My schedule was PE Monday - Friday/ Weekends off

If I did another cycle I’d add Wednesdays as an additional day off. I’m still firmly in the camp of less is more.

Agree. I have started a cycle but thinking I will try 2 on, 1 off, 2 on and 2 off for next cycle.

Thank you :) I appreciate the responses! I’ll probably stick to this. I’ve always only ever taken rest days if I “felt” like I needed it (which usually leads to only 1 rest day a week). But based off what I have been reading and through the research of others, its more beneficial to rest regularly. I started this routine a week ago and I’m scheduled to measure BPEL/FL on 3/31 (I typically measure every two weeks). I’ve been making BPSFL gains since day 1 pretty much. I don’t think I will be measuring any girth for a long while as this routine doesn’t seem to be focused on girth much.

I might try that too with my next cycle. I’m thinking I’ll start cycle 2 in May.

And depending on what my measurements are like at the beginning of the cycle I might alter a few others things too.

Not just weight but how I’m doing incremental loads and how long and how hot I’m using the heating pads.

Admittedly, rest days have always been such a struggle for me when it comes to PE. My brain can’t process that less is more sometimes. Which I definitely believe, I just like to PE is all. I think I will start 2 on/1 off/2 on/2 off as well..