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I think there are more common to hang straight out. It’s easier to put on the heating pad and to avoid heating your balls if you hang SO.


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I have only done SO while vac hanging, as Patrik says it helps keep the heat pad away from your balls.

Still doing Straight Out and dont plan to switch. Its far more comfortable for me.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
I am not sure if I missed this someplace in this thread but all this is done while hanging straight out or down? What angle?

Personally I do a mixture of BTC & SD. Currently I hang 3 hours on week days, so I do 2 hours BTC as I’m sitting at my computer desk doing online school in the morning and in the evening I do 1hr SD, following a 5 days on and 2 off schedule.

Cheap Pads and Heating Elements

I have been looking for cheap pads as alternatives, since importing one from the US would be expensive for me. Considering the Total Man’s pad has been found to be sufficient, and considering Total Man shop’s products are rebranded chinese products, aliexpress seems like a good place to start. Many products there mention "IR heating" but as you know, they probably are not. But considering that I have serious doubts about the Total Man heat pad in the first place, maybe these are worth a shot.

Here is a heated wrist pad that seems to be made with similar materials to the Total Man’s one (it even uses the same power button) and claims to be IR in the product description:
https://pt.alie xpress.com/item … 686831832.html?

Another option I found is to use an USB heating element (claims to be carbon fiber and also IR) coupled with an USB potency regulator for 3 levels of temperature adjusting:
https://pt.alie xpress.com/item … 128520690.html?
https://pt.alie xpress.com/item … 698561249.html?

I’m thinking of testing one of those and posting the results, which one do you guys see as the better option here? I’m also thinking about using an IR gun similar to what scienceguy used, what should I look out for on the gun? Any aliexpress links would be appreciated.

Not sure how to change the pages in the links to English but then I have no experience with these products so not sure that will help. As some folks have shown the same heating pad seems to be inconsistent. People have bought two of the same pad and not been able to get the same temperature in both.

I think just try one and see it would be great to find heating elements that work as they are cheap then we could build out own! Let us know how you get on. I am might but some of the heating elements at some point and give them a test.

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
In my opinion Bib is not going to work near as well as a vaccum hanger.

Originally Posted by Jguido
While I’m not as knowledgeable as others I don’t believe this would work with a compression hanger.

With a vac hanger or extending or even ADS type set up you can potentially wear the device non stop for at least an hour and even longer if your unit can handle the weight without anything bad happening. For example, if I recall correctly, 5.5 does 90 minutes of vacuuming hanging straight in which the middle 30 to 60 minutes are using the infrared heating pad.

With a compression hanger like Bib’s I believe it is advised to never go more than 10-20 minutes at a time.

An ultra sound device MAY be able to work with a compression hanger since ultra sound is capable of heating faster and more effectively. From what I’ve been reading the absolute best set up would be vacuum hanging plus ultra sound but not everyone such as myself wants to deal with an ultra sound device, then the runner up would be vacuum hanging with an far infrared heating device preferably a heating pad like the one 5.5 has shared.

Of course it is. I knew the second I bought the TotalMan one that the Thermedic one would be back in stock. Well I can wait until we hear back from TotalMan about your question to them. And if all else fails I’ll just buy the TherMedic one.

Thanks for clarifying, guys.

With the lower weights suggested with this approach I don’t doubt I could do 60 minutes fairly comfortable with the Bib.

Contrary to what some others have experienced I was actually quite comfortable hanging with the Bib, although there is a learning curve.

The problem re: this approach is that I may not be able to heat sufficiently while hanging since the hanger is so bulky that it covers a big part of my unit. Maybe the ultrasoud device could work.

I’ll have to look into it further. Being fully deconditioned I know it would be smart of me to think carefully about how to approach this when re-starting in order to get some easy gains.

Thanks again.

Renholder

Originally Posted by Renholder
Thanks for clarifying, guys.

With the lower weights suggested with this approach I don’t doubt I could do 60 minutes fairly comfortable with the Bib.

Contrary to what some others have experienced I was actually quite comfortable hanging with the Bib, although there is a learning curve.

The problem re: this approach is that I may not be able to heat sufficiently while hanging since the hanger is so bulky that it covers a big part of my unit. Maybe the ultrasoud device could work.

I’ll have to look into it further. Being fully deconditioned I know it would be smart of me to think carefully about how to approach this when re-starting in order to get some easy gains.

Thanks again.

Renholder

I am in the same boat as you. I dug up my old vac hanger and put it on following the advice on this thread. I agree that if you did any heavy weight 15+ pounds with the bib your going to feel like nothing is happening. I did not use ultrasound but did use a heating pad. I did it straight out so that It would be easy to put the heating pad on. Did this for 5 days last week. I hope nobody feels offended by this but I didn’t feel anything. I just think that if you have done much heavier weight in the past and can´t call yourself a newbie then this might not work. Not saying this will not work if you added heat and started hanging a weight that did feel challenging. Just to be clear, I fell just shy of 140 (139) mm so my MPa 0.10 was 6 pounds and my MPA 0.17 was 10.2 pounds weight. Then I added the extra .25% or 2.5 LB with the cool down. Just not feeling it. On a positive note more area to work and place the heating pad.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
I am in the same boat as you. I dug up my old vac hanger and put it on following the advice on this thread. I agree that if you did any heavy weight 15+ pounds with the bib your going to feel like nothing is happening. I did not use ultrasound but did use a heating pad. I did it straight out so that It would be easy to put the heating pad on. Did this for 5 days last week. I hope nobody feels offended by this but I didn’t feel anything. I just think that if you have done much heavier weight in the past and can´t call yourself a newbie then this might not work. Not saying this will not work if you added heat and started hanging a weight that did feel challenging. Just to be clear, I fell just shy of 140 (139) mm so my MPa 0.10 was 6 pounds and my MPA 0.17 was 10.2 pounds weight. Then I added the extra .25% or 2.5 LB with the cool down. Just not feeling it. On a positive note more area to work and place the heating pad.

Yeah, I’m a little worried I’ve hung too heavy in the past for this to work too. Most I hung was 15lbs, but that was about 18 months ago with a compression hanger. I picked up vac hanging sometime last fall and got back up to about 10lbs. When I read this post, I stopped hanging to decon and give it a try. Going on 3 months decon so far, but privacy is what’s preventing me from starting the routine. I guess that’s helping me stick to my decon haha. That said, I don’t think feeling it is required for this method. Riding fatigue is plastic deformation, you feel that. What we’re trying to do here is reorganization and proliferation of collagen. That’s my understanding anyway.

You don’t need to feel it you just check for results by measuring pre and post BPFSL. Don’t worry about feeling. Vac hanging usually feels like not much is happening, that’s good.

Originally Posted by StrangerComeKno
Yeah, I’m a little worried I’ve hung too heavy in the past for this to work too. Most I hung was 15lbs, but that was about 18 months ago with a compression hanger. I picked up vac hanging sometime last fall and got back up to about 10lbs. When I read this post, I stopped hanging to decon and give it a try. Going on 3 months decon so far, but privacy is what’s preventing me from starting the routine. I guess that’s helping me stick to my decon haha. That said, I don’t think feeling it is required for this method. Riding fatigue is plastic deformation, you feel that. What we’re trying to do here is reorganization and proliferation of collagen. That’s my understanding anyway.

Best of luck. Let us know if it works for you.

Did anyone find a reliable substitute to the FIR pad from Amazon that still is out of stock? I don’t care about the price, I value safety/accuracy more.

I use Thermrup Fir mobile heat belt. The Fir unit is removable from the belt and has a width of around 4 inches. Length around 10-12 inches. It’s a bit stiff but still ok to roll around the unit. I use it at medium heat and in the end at low. Something between the skin and the pad is probably a good idea to avoid skin burn/pain. Shipped from Germany, quality seems ok.

I used the Thermedic knee brace. It too has a removable pad that’s about 5x8” that fits quite well wrapped around me while vac hanging. My stretched flaccid is about 19cm.


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Originally Posted by CurvedCactus
Personally I do a mixture of BTC & SD. Currently I hang 3 hours on week days, so I do 2 hours BTC as I’m sitting at my computer desk doing online school in the morning and in the evening I do 1hr SD, following a 5 days on and 2 off schedule.

Have you been consistent ?

How many sets per day?

Have you gained any length recently hanging SD and BTC?

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