Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

Josh 14-11

Well, this may be a repeat of what I have said before, but I first read this thread back in APR of this year and immediately prayed that this was my hope to regain, as you put it above, a unit you can use.

I purchased the Deluxe Package from lapdist and after reading threads and instructive pieces by supersizeit, gprent, Lampwick, and others, began my routine.

As I have stated before in this thread, I had an unfortunate accident in Feb 2006. The trauma of the accident, and the numerous operations, plus the medications taken, caused me to lose all of my night-time REM erections and morning woods. I was no longer able to obtain my regular rock-hard erections, no matter how hard I tried. All I could obtain in the way of a self-induced erection was about 50% or less. After some tests, my doctors said they thought I would regain my erections eventually, but that it would take time and that I should be patient. I didn’t want to be patient…I wanted my erections back!

I mentioned vacuum pumping to my doctors, who were somewhat skeptical, but said they didn’t think it would be harmful and that if I wanted to try it, to go ahead. Now, after about 4-1/2 months of pumping, my REMs and Morning erections have returned with a vengeance! And, now I can obtain erections of about 90%. Hopefully, I will be at 100+% soon!

After my last doctors visit, I now think they are believers!

Glad to hear pumping is helping your EQ, Panos.

I think I noted this elsewhere, but a couple months ago I finally visited my urologist to get his input on my PE routines. He was cautious about jelqing too vigorously, but regarding pumping, he said this:
When they do a prostatectomy, the patient usually loses erectile function temporarily. While in the healing mode, patients are instructed to do pumping … just to keep things limbered up and “ready to go” later on. It corroborates what avocet says about using pumping to imitate the night wood the body normally does to keep one’s unit primed for action.

I had to take a break from PE most of the summer because of some nasty blisters from over-pumping or using the wrong lube. I’m getting good morning wood again, but EQ is iffy again, even with self-induced erections. Just takes a long time to get up to 100%. All in good time, I guess.

Josh

Use the search engine in the upper right corner for “BUY PUMP” or “make your own pump”

I made one with an aquarium vacuum tube and a Mitey Mite hand pump from an auto parts store. By the time the latter broke, I knew what level of pressure to use, and now just pump by sucking on one end of the tube to create the necessary vacuum.

I purchased the LAP Dist pump and the 1.75 and 2.00 cylinders, stage pumping. I added pumping about three months ago and have achieved some very measurable gains.

ED problems have also decreased. I attribute the better erections to adding a pumping routine. Seems to help the overall blood flow.

Avocet,

I finally got around to reading this thread…you are a gem! Great article from one of the Vets I hold in high esteem.

Thanks.

I too just read this thread and it may be exactly what I need. As Sparkyx who has been extremely helpful already knows from our PM’s, I’m having trouble with ED and it is causing me to not be able to even get ‘primed’ to start a PE workout. It’s getting worse and now after reading this I’m thinking the lack of ‘house cleaning’ from not having night or morning wood could be contributing to my increasing dilemma.

This may be a serious revelation for me! You’re the man Avocet!!!

Fitman

Heh, Fitman:

IT WORKS! Do it,man, and you will get it all back. I promise. It did it for me.

Panos

Although I have posted this in the general PE section, Sparkyx suggested that I ought to post it here also:

It’s now almost 10 months since I started PE. I got the newby gains followed by slow progress with wet jelqing. After 7 months I’d gained about 0.5-0.75 inch in length and very little in girth (maybe 0.1-0.15 inch)
At one point I measure 8 inch BPEL and 5.5 mid girth. I was frustrated by the progress with girth so I tried clamping. My dick didn’t like this and got a pain at the lower base with poor erections. I took two weeks off and things improved and at one point I measured 8.1 inch BPEL.

Clamping had no effect on my penis girth other than to shrink it for a couple of weeks. I then continued with jelqing; still no girth increase so I decided to try pumping. To date pumping has, if anything, reduced my length and had no lasting effect on girth.

After my second experiment with pumping I had seriously bad EQ for almost three weeks. After that time things seemed to improve but I had no increase in girth. I tried a very mild session of pumping combined with jelqing a couple of weeks ago and since that time my penis has had very bad EQ. My worry is that I’ve damaged the blood vessels/nerves in my penis through pumping and it will take ages to heal properly. Either that or it’s growing whilst resting but I doubt that. I’m now still resting but very worried I’ve caused my penis permanent damage through pumping. I wondered if anyone else has had these kind of problems with pumping?

gigapipe,

All of the trouble you describe are signs of going overboard and causing damage. The clamp sounds like you put it on way too tight. The pump sounds like too much pressure and time.

How much vacuum pressure do you use and how long do you pump for?

I followed the recommendations on this site and went for 10mins at 3-5hg and. Two months ago now I tried 20mins at 3-5Hg with short periods at 7hg. Following this session my penis had started to get that puffy foreskin look.

It’s strange because shortly after this particular pumping session, I had great sex with the biggest dick I’ve ever had. I didn’t measure in the heat of the moment but it looked like it was 9 inches. It felt great and my wife thought so too although she had no idea I’d pumped it or that I do PE. However, since then it reacts very badly to any form of pumping by simply not performing. Like it’s gone to sulk in a corner and won’t play at all. At the moment it’s been sulking for two weeks. I’m worried about it.

The only thing I can think of is to restrict your pressure levels to just the 3-4”hg range and try two 10 minute sessions to start with. If you get good results with that, stick with it for a while and then add a third 10 minute session, but don’t add any more pressure. Whatever you do, no more short periods of 7”hg.

That’s a good advice Gprent. I’ve found that, when I tried to go to any level above 3-4hg, I’d lose EQ. That happened to me several times.

Now I usually stop at 4hg, and voilá, morning wood is back, and so is my rock-hard erections.

This is a thread worth bumping up again, this time with an added question:

gprent has thread on Selecting Your Cylinder Size to indicate the best diameter of tube, compared to erect girth. He also suggests that if you want to work on girth, move up to the next size in diameter. If you want to work on length, stay with a smaller diameter tube for a while longer

But what if you’re working to improve EQ (erection quality)? Should you be "packing to the walls" or not, or does it even matter?
Pumping has helped my EQ, but I was having problems with the right vas deferens getting sucked up into the tube (my right testicle hangs higher than the left, anyway)—and it resulted in epididymitis. (Aaargh!) I can back off on Hg pressure, but I’m thinking maybe I should find a smaller diameter tube… will that make any difference with EQ benefit?

Josh 14-11:

What vacuum level were you using?

What is your penis’s shape? Are you larger at the base?

On not getting your scrotum sucked into the tube - you have heard about doing something with a light wrap (a cloth strip, a ball stretcher of some kind, as a couple of examples) around the base of your testes to help keep them from getting pulled in, right?

My guess is that if you are trying to help improve EQ, you want to do more (gentle) stretching, not less. Packing the tube means that you have reached the limit of expansion (at least in girth), so you are not getting as much stretch. My guess is that you should not move down to a smaller diameter tube if you are working on your EQ.

Lampwick,

I originally had a MiteyVac pump with a gauge, but the handle broke and now I just use oral suction… trying not to pull the scrotum up at all. I don’t mind some skin being pulled up… but the vas is another matter. Oral suction works fine, but I wish I could figure out how to attach the gauge itself to the line just to check on the inches Hg.

Penis shape… thicker at the base; with a slight tapering toward the glans. Unfortunately, I have a weak spot or “kink” toward the base of the shaft so that my erections bend to the left. It’s not a problem unless I’m in the tube and accidentally push the tube toward the right; then it easily breaks the seal and vacuum.

I’m not packing the tube at all, and it would be almost impossible to keep a seal unless I had the 1-2” of bicycle inner tube to grip my shaft at the opening of the tube.

I’ve tried a wrap at the top of my scrotum using a strap of velcro, but that cut in too much. Other wraps seemed to interfer with keeping good contact with the mouth of the tube. Maybe someone else has a good suggestion of a ball wrap to use while pumping.

In the meantime, I went to the hardware store today and got an 8” length of 1-5/8” PVC. Small town store clerk was very helpful. I don’t have PVC glue at home to glue a cap on one end. He did it for my unnamed “project.” At least he didn’t ask what it was for. Now all I have to do is smooth out the open end and drill a hole in the cap for tubing. I know you suggested not going to a narrower diameter, but I’m tired of the vas-sucking thing. And yes, I know PVC is opaque, but I’ve done pumping for a couple years now and think I can kinda gauge “light pumping.”