Finding xeno: a penis tale

I like that. There is so much wisdom in that. That’s why you got to try things and keep finding what works and what doesn’t.

I’ll probably try that SKF sometime now that you mention it. Why not. It may be the greatest thing I ever do, and I would never know, if I didn’t try.

You initially started in 2005-2006 (did PE for less than a year), then took back to it in 2014 (i presume for less than a year ?) and now finally you resumed in 2018. So in total you have been actively doing it for around 2 years, with a 0.9" gain…..is this correct ?

I’d say the 2005 was like around 6 months or less, then in 2014, my logs indicate it was for 4.5 months. So all in all about a year. Since T0, being the start, I’ve gained all in all:

+0.59BG(never measured at start, just an estimate)
+0.77EG
+0.28TG
+0.90EL
+1.08BPEL
+VOL4.58

These gains exclude last phase 1 “temp/permanent” gains I made.

So basically in less than a year you gained about over 1 inch. Thats pretty good, not a hard gainer certainly. I believe even without IPR you should be able to gain more relatively quickly.

I searched for IPR but wasnt able to get a clear understanding as its spread out.

Im in around 2 months, and barely gained 0.2” so far, at this rate im looking to gain an inch by end of next year hopefully, and half inch a year after that.

It’s on page 8 post 10 of this thread, by xenolith. It’s quite a long post.

You might want to consider your PE efforts in the IPR framework.

Thanks for that. I will consider it.

Currently being coached by Big Al, so will see the results and switch over if nothing.

Hi Manko,

Thanks for your contributions! Just logged in recently to see if people had updates, as I’m starting up on another cycle myself again.

So it’s an interesting idea about the 3 day micro phases (so as I understand it, a version of one day on / two days off, but where second off-day is a rest day rather than with an ADS). Might try that this time round….

FYI re. the routine with the TT, I’m also doing 120 seconds or so in the TT followed by high pressure pumping (only managing up to 15 Hg max last time). May try to add in some TTr deformation between the two if I can, but for me I found the TT pretty effective. Like you found, 3 sets sort of does it for me as well, although my first session I felt I should do a 4th set (felt it hadn’t deformed enough).

Great idea with the quick release clamps. I’d tried a similar thing last year with (larger) clamps that I had, but found them too large and bulky. Maybe I’ll get some smaller ones like you have and use those electrical outlets to stabilize (great idea). Can you let me know the total length of the clamp you have (one end to other)?

Thanks

Hi Waterman,

It’s good hear you are trying these methods too. How long have you been using these and what success have you had with them?

As far as I understand that’s a standard 3 day micro phase. But from reading Xenos comments he sometimes did Sat and Sun inflamation, then P and R until the next weekend. So I guess the later days depend on how hard you go on inflamation day. I take it is to last until you can do I micro phase again without feeling like your overdoing it. But 3 days has worked well for me.

Here’s a link for the clamps if permitted:

Yost 13006-HD 6" Bar Clamp https://www.ama … /dp/B079H85767/

The maximum aperture is 6". More than enough.

I highly recommend the clamps and outlets. Makes it so much easier and safer for the TT.

I also remade my TTr using 3"x8" wood to out a ridge at the very edge flush with the wood so I could get as close to the base and against my pelvis when compressing. Didnt want to forego potential base gains by being lazy to remake it.

I’m starting again on the 21. It’s so hard to wait, I feel like I could start now, but my thumb scar hasn’t gone away and it’s been over a month, so it tells me I shouldn’t and let my tissues completely heal and seal.

Cheers

12” from end to end.

Another idea I had, for measuring, as I’ve been getting varied EG measurements, but have not implemented yet, is the use of a slap band ruler to slap it around the shaft to get accurate EG measurements every time. Of course these would be less that ‘EG’ due to slight to moderate compression, one could say the same compression if not more than the walls of a vagina. With the with the exception of EQ variability, the strenght of the rulers slap band would be the same each time one measures, thus more consistent measuring. Atleast for ‘inner EG’ or body pressed EG? Core EG? I’d like to know if my CC are growing vs skin and stuff.

If anyone know where I can get one please let me know. The inner diameter of the slap band closed should be less than 1.5” or a inner circumference of 4.7”. Should be rather strong so as to compress all the sides of the shaft to get an accurate inner EG measurement.

Theres some on Amazon but they all look to big in diameter. Tried walmart, etc.

Great Manko, thanks. Have ordered some similar (Irwin) clamps with 6” opening.

I’ve been doing this routine a short while - tried a few cycles last year, first one I think I’d actually started in November 2016. I feel overall that it’s made an impact - feel this from what I think is a larger flaccid, and in the pump I’ve made about 0.5cm gain. But apart from that there are no hard measurements to tell me that I’ve made permanent longer term gains yet… although definitely there are big girth differences after each I-phase session. So I’d say I’m still in the experimenting phase, and need to figure out how much to push the I-phase session - maybe I need to deform more, and high pressure for me is 10”Hg so maybe need to up that. Also at times I’m having difficulty getting hard enough for it - it’s not a PI think, more like the effect when you want to measure and your penis doesn’t want to play ball…. so when it knows it’s time for an I-session it sometimes doesn’t want to play, which is boring!

Let me know how the IRWIN clamps work out. What lbs force are they?

I know what you mean with not 100% EQ. Sometimes it doesnt want to cooperate.

I use to do jelqing at 60%. It works for beginners but it’s probably just the smooth muscle being enlarged. Once you hit tunica limits it stops working.

From Big Girtha I learned something very important from one of his posts. He watches porn to get as hard as he can when he is doing his clamping sessions. Clamping and tt and ttr will not be effective if not at 100% IMO. Imagine a tube of toothpaste. If its 80% full and you squeeze it with its cap on the toothpaste will just move to one side. But there is no total expansion. The same I believe happens with the TT. If it’s not 100% the blood will just whoosh from one section to the next. At 100% the blood has no where to go so deformation is inevitable. Assuming you’ve blocked off the base with a clamp, which is what I do and think Xeno does in the TT. Your tunica will be forced to bulge out. I believe Xeno mentioned this rather indirectly in one of his posts when they were discussing PONR. This implies maximum pressure. You always want to work at maximum pressure. Otherwise you are just moving blood from side to side or just not being as effective as you could be. I watch girls on YouTube. It’s enough for me. I won’t do porn though.

And the tub crusher jelqs. These will blow your tunica into a balloon. It’s like the tunica is made to be shaped and resized. I would give them a try after each tt, ttr, pump set.

I believe they have 130kg clamping force which, one assumes, is plenty!

Re. the need to be rock solid, yes completely agree with that. The previous cycles it was like that I think - as someone described it once, the feeling should be that your penis is going to explode. Actually the other day doing my second I-phase day, it wasn’t playing ball at the start, but by the third round it was rock solid to the point I passed the PONR by mistake (which I was annoyed about!). So perhaps for me I shouldn’t worry when it’s not cooperating but should just carry on until it feels like cooperating, then ensure I do 3 cycles when it’s in that state.

Might try your tub crusher thing to see what it’s about as well…

That’s a lot of force. The ones I got are just 165lb. But they are small. When I came up with the clamp idea I saw the 300lbs irwin clamps at Dixieline. Bought one but then found the ones on Amazon. And returned the irwin because it was much too big. Hard to maneuver around. Hopefully you got a small irwin that has a big force though.

I bought a slap band with ruler for bracelet measuring. Then added 2 more slap band bare metals to it that I got elsewhere. And now with 3 slap bands the coil is quite strong. It will be good for measuring core girth and determining CC gains. When coiled by itself it has a circumference of 4.5” with some degree of play of less than 1mm each way. Thats 1.43” diameter. I wanted something less than 5” or 1.75” diameter so the core can be measured consistently over time. I’m guessing my core girth right now is 5”, as I havent used it yet. So if that is correct about 0.4- 0.5” would be atributable to CS and 5” to CC. Skin and stuff unnacounted. It shall be interesting to see which part gains more going forward using Xenos methods, as long as the coil ruler I’ll call it doesnt lose coiling strenght over time causing lack of consistency in measurement.

So I started another cycle early for reasons unimportant, but the clamps were a total success. Super effective. Achieved some serious deformation, my unit looked so swollen it looked like it had been attacked by African bees, although most of it was lymph fluid because I pumped at too high vacuum for too long, should have kept it to 10 secs high vacuum then 30secs low vacuum for 3 sets, instead I was going over 20 secs high vacuum and short vacuum, bad idea.. The swelling is subsiding now.

Anyway, I wanted to add that during my session the clamps kept coming out of the sockets of the TTr.. It was annoying trying to balance the thing, make sure it doesn’t fall apart, while trying to keep a hard on, and then put my unit in there.. Horrible. So to fix the problem, I think some zip ties 16” or longer to wrap around the clamps and under the TTr would be advisable. I can’t think of another way to secure the clamps to the wood that doesn’t require serious engineering and tools, which I don’t have.

As for the TT, it was great, since it targets the whole shaft, you don’t need to move it to different sections, so there is less balancing and clamps coming off.

Last, it was very fastidious switching the clamps between TT and TTr. So I got another pair of clamps. Will attach zip ties to both and see if that fastens the clamps to the board.

Some interesting observations gains wise during the session, BPELIT was 0.125 more than before. And TG under CCCC, clamping from base to tip, was a shocking 1” higher, from 4.7” last cycle sesh to 5.7” yesterday. I couldn’t believe it, but I could have measured wrong the first time, or differently for that matter. Anyway, super pleasant surprise, as I want a super huge head. Hope that it translates into massive gains, but somehow doubtful, my head has never been the highlight of my unit, I wish it was though, and certainly working on it.

Next sesh in 2-3 days.

If you care to know what my routine was, let me know.