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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by ObiWan77
For what it’s worth, I’ve had a Restorex for a year and a half. I followed the directions precisely for 2 months, with what I feel are no true gains. When I was doing my initial measurements for the rod setup, the benchmark is 6.75” BP stretched length. As this was early on in my efforts, I felt that I barely reached that, so that’s how I set up the device. After 2-3 months’ use, along with pumping and stretching, I could squeeze out 7.25”. However, I take that measurement with a grain of salt, because I believe I was pushing much harder with a ruler and really trying to stretch out every mm I could. Since that time, I have had zero increase in my stretched length. I’ve pumped more with heat, started using restorex again (I took a 2 month hiatus from it), and started using it 3 times a day for 45 minutes. I now sort of alternate with pumping and restored on a daily basis and have not budged from 7.25” stretched, with BPEL of 6.25” (which isn’t much increase from my initial measurements, and most likely initial measurement error). I’ve been trying to incorporate hanging, but can only do that once or twice a week due to family being around the house. The only gains I’ve really noticed are pseudo gains from over pumping, that only last a couple of hours if I keep a cock ring on. I’m to the point where I think US is my last thing to try. I’ve even had 4 p-shots and actually own a gainswave machine.

Hello Obi,

For the p-shots and eswt I would like to say that without a gaining program first, we will not get the benefits of the treatments on penile growth.
Secondly if there is BPFSL gains then using the gainswave too often or with excessive shock energy level the TA tissue can shrink .
And there is reason to believe that excessive usage can deny the BPFSL gains to come in the first place.

If you have the opportunity to hang, I would suggest you to test the load level you need first before starting any campaign.
It can be a huge impact on strain if you hang with 1kg or 2 kg for an example. CBates went from 1% strain to whopping 4% after optimizing his program.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-31-2020 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hello Obi,

For the p-shots and eswt I would like to say that without a gaining program first, we will not get the benefits of the treatments on penile growth.
Secondly if there is BPFSL gains then using the gainswave too often or with excessive shock energy level the TA tissue can shrink .
And there is reason to believe that excessive usage can deny the BPFSL gains to come in the first place.

If you have the opportunity to hang, I would suggest you to test the load level you need first before starting any campaign.
It can be a huge impact on strain if you hang with 1kg or 2 kg for an example. CBates went from 1% strain to whopping 4% after optimizing his program.

CBateman of course


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Cold War Clamp

Out of curiosity I purchased a USSR army, CCCP made military emergency tourniquet.

The mechanics does inspire to make somerhing out of it. Clamping arms race once again.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-31-2020 at .

It looks incredible.

Don’t you plan on using it?

What’s it measured in?

Hey Kyrpa, do you still do the penile bodybuilding exercises you mentioned early on in this thread? The kegels while under stretch?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Out of curiosity I purchased a USSR army, CCCP made military emergency tourniquet.
The mechanics does inspire to make somerhing out of it. Clamping arms race once again.

Sweet!

Looks like this one: Soviet Tourniquet, Amazing, Surplus - Varusteleka.com

Curious to see how your experience with that compares to some of the other clamps people have used. Can’t see if there’s an easy way to release it.

Originally Posted by train spot
It looks incredible.
Don’t you plan on using it?
What’s it measured in?

I don´t know, maybe with a little counter piece it will work as a special press clamp.

Soviet Tourniquet, Amazing, Surplus - Varusteleka.com
Look into pics and you will see the size.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by TimeIt
Sweet!

Looks like this one: Soviet Tourniquet, Amazing, Surplus - Varusteleka.com

Curious to see how your experience with that compares to some of the other clamps people have used. Can’t see if there’s an easy way to release it.

It has a metallic quick release switch , you can see it on the side of it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by TimeIt
Hey Kyrpa, do you still do the penile bodybuilding exercises you mentioned early on in this thread? The kegels while under stretch?

Yeah not scheduled but occasionally. During the length work twice a week. If making the OTL hang IC muscles get stretched , so it is good for the EQ to train them.
I am now on the break so why not taking a few weeks special run. Thanks for reminding.
I think the IC is quite balanced now and relatively strong to what it used to be when discovering the thing.
When fully hard erect I can jump the penis up by contracting the muscles.

When I started it back then and did it more seriously the base girth did grow few millimeters.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
CBateman of course

I feel honored to be mentioned. Today I was able to work on the load strain curve Kypra wants us all to do.
If any of you guys haven’t done it yet, it would be great because we need reliable data at a decent quantity to make this statistically significant.
For the guys using the LG Hanger, it is quite simple to modify the device a bit for our purpose of creating a load strain curve.

1) don’t use the girth band or velcro tape. I don’t really believe in the girth band anyway and the velcro tape is not needed at our weight range.
2) shorten the silicone sleeve. It should be ~30% shorter. By doing this, you will still keep the vacuum but make it easier to stretch to BPFSL for measuring after the hanging
3) most important! This only applies if you are uncircumcised and use the taping where you pull your foreskin forward to protect your glans with it. This is a complete hindrance because it limits my stretch
for measuring max BPFSL I found out with testing. Instead, use a glans cap. I use a big silicone toe cap because it is the softest and feels the best. Pull your foreskin back, put the toe cap above the glans
and apply the Lg hanger.

Unfortunately, my strain level data is still absolute garbage.It is way too high and I cannot imagine creating this kind of strain cold. If you still want to have the numbers, I will gladly send them via DM, Kyrpa :-) .
What I can say with certainty, however: 1) I hung with 2kg before and now I can clearly say 3kg is better/ supposed sweet spot.
2) It could be I have gained t0 BPFSL. I can’t say for sure because I don’t trust my measurements at all, but there is the possibility that I’m in line with the projections. A bit slower than Kyrpa, but that was to be expected.
I will confirm or refute whether I gain with 1mm t0 BPFSL per 7 days, but it could be the case (2 of the 7 days are rest days. So basically 1mm in a week). Which could make me happy. If confirmed :-D.

I’m also reading the thread and have nearly finished it. The big question mark is girth work.
1) I’m scared of clamping and don’t really trust the safety to be honest
2) I don’t want much girth to begin with. I would want to gain 1 inch in length at first and only 0.2 inches of girth if possible. Then, another inch and another 0.2 inches of girth
3) I prefer devices over manual work because with manuals I trust myself even less to do them reliably and precisely. Pumping would be a choice, but I don’t want discoloration. Maybe I can avoid the discoloration, that would be nice.

What is the simplest and most efficient girth workout if I just want to get my BPEL up and only gain little girth and avoid clamping?
What if I just don’t do any girth routine, but go straight on a decon and only enlarge my BPFSL? Won’t the BPEL catch up eventually? Because with the Phallosan or Extenders or Hangers, it is always the same.
They only hang or extend, do no additonal work and still gain BPEL. Then again, it might be the case it takes longer if you avoid the girth routines.

I hope this is not too long. If it is, please tell me and I will try to be more concise.
All the best and thanks Kyrpa and the other guys for providing invaluable insights. This is groundbreaking.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[currently decon until aug 2024] latest BFPSL: 21.2cm (8.35 inches) latest BPEL: 19.5cm (7,68 inches) latest NBPEL: 17cm (6.69 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by CBateman
I feel honored to be mentioned. Today I was able to work on the load strain curve Kypra wants us all to do.
If any of you guys haven’t done it yet, it would be great because we need reliable data at a decent quantity to make this statistically significant.
For the guys using the LG Hanger, it is quite simple to modify the device a bit for our purpose of creating a load strain curve.

1) don’t use the girth band or velcro tape. I don’t really believe in the girth band anyway and the velcro tape is not needed at our weight range.
2) shorten the silicone sleeve. It should be ~30% shorter. By doing this, you will still keep the vacuum but make it easier to stretch to BPFSL for measuring after the hanging
3) most important! This only applies if you are uncircumcised and use the taping where you pull your foreskin forward to protect your glans with it. This is a complete hindrance because it limits my stretch
for measuring max BPFSL I found out with testing. Instead, use a glans cap. I use a big silicone toe cap because it is the softest and feels the best. Pull your foreskin back, put the toe cap above the glans
and apply the Lg hanger.

Unfortunately, my strain level data is still absolute garbage.It is way too high and I cannot imagine creating this kind of strain cold. If you still want to have the numbers, I will gladly send them via DM, Kyrpa :-) .
What I can say with certainty, however: 1) I hung with 2kg before and now I can clearly say 3kg is better/ supposed sweet spot.
2) It could be I have gained t0 BPFSL. I can’t say for sure because I don’t trust my measurements at all, but there is the possibility that I’m in line with the projections. A bit slower than Kyrpa, but that was to be expected.
I will confirm or refute whether I gain with 1mm t0 BPFSL per 7 days, but it could be the case (2 of the 7 days are rest days. So basically 1mm in a week). Which could make me happy. If confirmed :-D.

I’m also reading the thread and have nearly finished it. The big question mark is girth work.
1) I’m scared of clamping and don’t really trust the safety to be honest
2) I don’t want much girth to begin with. I would want to gain 1 inch in length at first and only 0.2 inches of girth if possible. Then, another inch and another 0.2 inches of girth
3) I prefer devices over manual work because with manuals I trust myself even less to do them reliably and precisely. Pumping would be a choice, but I don’t want discoloration. Maybe I can avoid the discoloration, that would be nice.

What is the simplest and most efficient girth workout if I just want to get my BPEL up and only gain little girth and avoid clamping?
What if I just don’t do any girth routine, but go straight on a decon and only enlarge my BPFSL? Won’t the BPEL catch up eventually? Because with the Phallosan or Extenders or Hangers, it is always the same.
They only hang or extend, do no additonal work and still gain BPEL. Then again, it might be the case it takes longer if you avoid the girth routines.

I hope this is not too long. If it is, please tell me and I will try to be more concise.
All the best and thanks Kyrpa and the other guys for providing invaluable insights. This is groundbreaking.


I think you avoid discoloration by pumping short sets max 10 min with 4-5 hg. Do 2-3 sets 1-2 times a day.
Take 2 min break between sets and let fresh blood in your penis.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

To all those planning to start applying US for the first time or those who are going into a second or even third period, PLEASE track and log all the data to share. It is extremely important for all of us to collect that anecdotal experience, tabulate all those clusters of data and improve the process. Only with our experiences we find out what works and what doesnt or which variable lead to better results, etc. Remember to measure strictly each time before and after. Just measure against the pubic bone, push as hard as you can, always in the same spot. Its the only most reliable way to measure. Thank you!!


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
I think you avoid discoloration by pumping short sets max 10 min with 4-5 hg. Do 2-3 sets 1-2 times a day.
Take 2 min break between sets and let fresh blood in your penis.

You are very quick, Patrik! Thanks a lot for this suggestion :-) .
Will see what the others and especially Kyrpa or Tutt (may he come back in 2021) have to say about this subject.
But this makes me quite optimistic about pumping.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[currently decon until aug 2024] latest BFPSL: 21.2cm (8.35 inches) latest BPEL: 19.5cm (7,68 inches) latest NBPEL: 17cm (6.69 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I don´t know, maybe with a little counter piece it will work as a special press clamp.

Soviet Tourniquet, Amazing, Surplus - Varusteleka.com
Look into pics and you will see the size.

Did you ever show BPEL improvement over your previous max length using the US heating protocol?

Originally Posted by djrobins
Did you ever show BPEL improvement over your previous max length using the US heating protocol?

Precisely when? During the last period you mean ?

You can see the progression in my stats, all the way from the beginning.

Last round did not, and to honest wasn´t even trying. I was recovering the loss caused by the long decon. Next time I will.

Since July 2018 I have gained 4.2 cm BPEL over my previous max length. Peak was 4.7 cm.

The ultrasound was already in use at Aug or Sep 2018.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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