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Originally Posted by Trapezius
I am sorry to ask these basic questions. It’s quite big thread and I am at page 40/123. There is term cyclic stretching or “cyclical strain beyond the proportionality limit”, that is done under high heat after reaching elastic limit with lower force. What does cyclic stretching mean in practise?

You seemed to find some answers already, hopefully it helped you getting forward.

I saw you picking the line out of the context, “Cyclical strain beyond the proportionality limit “.

Be careful with that phrase as it contains a situation we are not going to reach with our approach.

We might have debated it at the start with Tutt and to some extension with Manko but I am sure we have mutual understanding that we are nowhere near it with our efforts.
By we I am meaning the whole scene.

Proportional limit lays on the top end of the elastic region and we are operating at the very start of the same region. We have barely past the heel region where the tissue stiffens against the applied load. All of us.

Just in recent reply Tutt talked about the newest studies confirming that we are not even going need to reach such a strain.
Growth triggering responses starting to happen very early with a strain enough we are reaching with heat.
This has been my approach the whole time.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 07-14-2021 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
It needs to be confirmed with a before and after dobbler scans. Nobody have done that.

But yes, several guys having really tight restricting “steel cord” putting all the heating efford on this portion have succeeded already.
So I am positive we can gain actual shaft length gains with a deep heat application.

Interesting. This would be the ultimate goal in PE if it is possible. We all know lengthening the ligs is possible, but that comes at a cost of erection angle.

Have you noticed much difference in erection angle?

Sorry if this next one has been answered already, I’m only on page 45 of this thread so far (taken me 2 days!)

How did you get on with your penile bodybuilding approach? How is your EQ now and what have you found helps most in this aspect?

Cheers again.

Originally Posted by ShadowGains
Interesting. This would be the ultimate goal in PE if it is possible. We all know lengthening the ligs is possible, but that comes at a cost of erection angle.

Have you noticed much difference in erection angle?

Sorry if this next one has been answered already, I’m only on page 45 of this thread so far (taken me 2 days!)

How did you get on with your penile bodybuilding approach? How is your EQ now and what have you found helps most in this aspect?

Cheers again.

I have had EQ problems for years and finding the study linked in your quote I started to experiment.
I found that other leg of the IC was very weak comparing to another.
I might have better than normal muscle to brain connection because of my long history of bodybuilding. So it was relatively easy to learn how to separate the contraction from BC which is very strong.
After getting better balance I have had better and longer lasting erections permanently.

Later I have found help from ESWT and from chinese erectile dysfunction herb/medicine shugan yiyang capsules.
The covid situation did cut the supply though.

Unfortunately I have still not reached the state where leaving the viagra would be an option.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by ShadowGains
Interesting. This would be the ultimate goal in PE if it is possible. We all know lengthening the ligs is possible, but that comes at a cost of erection angle.

Have you noticed much difference in erection angle?

Sorry if this next one has been answered already, I’m only on page 45 of this thread so far (taken me 2 days!)

How did you get on with your penile bodybuilding approach? How is your EQ now and what have you found helps most in this aspect?

Cheers again.

About the erection angle, it is not as steep it was at younger age, but can’t say for sure if the gains have made any difference or not.
It varies within the erection changes.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Unfortunately I have still not reached the state where leaving the viagra would be an option.


How long have you been taking it?
Do you feel any side effects? Something that could be worth mentioning to the rest of us, who are a little scared of sildenafil long term use?
There’s a guy on reddit who has a “AMA: I’ve taken viagra for 7 years and stopped”, he had nothing to report besides a “stuffy nose”, ocasionally. I just wanted to see how your experience was. Btw, I can’t remember if you wrote this before, but how old are you? Sorry if you mentioned it before.

Originally Posted by train spot
How long have you been taking it?
Do you feel any side effects? Something that could be worth mentioning to the rest of us, who are a little scared of sildenafil long term use?
There’s a guy on reddit who has a “AMA: I’ve taken viagra for 7 years and stopped”, he had nothing to report besides a “stuffy nose”, ocasionally. I just wanted to see how your experience was. Btw, I can’t remember if you wrote this before, but how old are you? Sorry if you mentioned it before.

I am closing in to my 50’s barrier in couple of years.

Red facial flushes every time.
At maximum dosage of 200mg a day for the whole weekend a lots of angry bowel symptoms. Puffy face and vision distortion. Nose bleeds at winter time.

It is not coming without side effects.
I do take it only one weekend in every two weeks when meeting my girl though.

I wouldnt take it every day thats for sure.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by train spot
How long have you been taking it?
Do you feel any side effects? Something that could be worth mentioning to the rest of us, who are a little scared of sildenafil long term use?
There’s a guy on reddit who has a “AMA: I’ve taken viagra for 7 years and stopped”, he had nothing to report besides a “stuffy nose”, ocasionally. I just wanted to see how your experience was. Btw, I can’t remember if you wrote this before, but how old are you? Sorry if you mentioned it before.

I am not Kyrpa but long time sildenafil user I am.
I have taken it for 5 years and I don’t believe I can ever stop it as my EQ is weak even with ED drugs unfortunately. I am working on it though. I don’t notice any side effects from long term use. Short term side effects there is for sure. Red puffy face, nose stuck, vision problems. I would not take it every day at least 100 mg. If I would not need I would not use it regularly.


Last edited by Trapezius : 07-14-2021 at .

Originally Posted by train spot
How long have you been taking it?
Do you feel any side effects? Something that could be worth mentioning to the rest of us, who are a little scared of sildenafil long term use?
There’s a guy on reddit who has a “AMA: I’ve taken viagra for 7 years and stopped”, he had nothing to report besides a “stuffy nose”, ocasionally. I just wanted to see how your experience was. Btw, I can’t remember if you wrote this before, but how old are you? Sorry if you mentioned it before.

I know this question is aimed at Kyrpa, but as someone who has been using Viagra for 6+ years I can give my experience. I haven’t experienced any long term side effect as of yet, but do experience slight short term effects like flushing and occasional light sore head feeling (like slight pressure in head) although these are very minor and don’t effect me much at all to consider discontinuation.

What I would be more concerned about at the moment is the psychological effect of long term anything. The mental dependence that can occur from relying on something to produce the results, could become an issue when said thing is removed.
I believe with this in mind, one should try not to ‘depend’ on any drugs, and if at all possible, should try and have sex without any aids where possible.

This might not be possible for some people, so this is obviously not aimed at such individuals. I would just caution anyone using this sort of medication to proceed with caution, and try not to become psychologically dependant on them.

Occasional use could also have the opposite effect, where it may improve sexual anxiety in the short term, which could cause lasting improvement to function, by having a positive impact psychologically.

What I am mainly getting at here is try and become more aware. Just be aware of yourself, and try and identify what is going on. This way you should be able to avoid dependency issue and still reap the benefits of occasional use.

This is what I try to do, I use it if I feel I need to or just need some reassurance, but if I find myself functioning without I’ll just go for it. This seems to work better for me than taking almost every time in anticipation and fear that I wouldn’t be able to perform. Now half the time I use it, half the time I don’t.
At 32 years old I really shouldn’t need it at all. When I don’t use it I’m never really 100%, but sometimes enough to perform well enough!

Hope this might help, I know I went on a bit 😅

Originally Posted by train spot
How long have you been taking it?
Do you feel any side effects? Something that could be worth mentioning to the rest of us, who are a little scared of sildenafil long term use?
There’s a guy on reddit who has a “AMA: I’ve taken viagra for 7 years and stopped”, he had nothing to report besides a “stuffy nose”, ocasionally. I just wanted to see how your experience was. Btw, I can’t remember if you wrote this before, but how old are you? Sorry if you mentioned it before.

I have used it the whole millenium occasionally if needed. At more regular basis for last 5 to 6 years.

I have strong morning wood, often spontaneous erections and occasionally I manage to do it without. But often enough the erection does not come up at action, or not last as long and hard necessary, so I take it as precaution.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by ShadowGains
I believe with this in mind, one should try not to ‘depend’ on any drugs, and if at all possible, should try and have sex without any aids where possible.

One thing I have get rid off is the cock ring use. And the sex feels much better already.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
One thing I have get rid off is the cock ring use. And the sex feels much better already.

That’s great to hear!

How much of your use do you think is physchological, and how much do you believe is physiological?
I know you said you are around the 50YO mark, however I don’t think this changes my question at all.
I’m mainly refering to the medication but I suppose my question is the ‘use’ of any sexual function aid

Cheers.

Originally Posted by ShadowGains
That’s great to hear!

How much of your use do you think is physchological, and how much do you believe is physiological?
I know you said you are around the 50YO mark, however I don’t think this changes my question at all.
I’m mainly refering to the medication but I suppose my question is the ‘use’ of any sexual function aid

Cheers.

More towards the psycholigal. The ring was all about it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
More towards the psycholigal. The ring was all about it.

Thanks for your responses. I know we went a bit off topic of the thread on ‘Gaining volume with Kyrpa’ however I think this information is very important and valuable to the many people experiencing EQ/ED issues.

What good is a big dick if we can’t use it after all!

Thanks again, your work is commendable my friend.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Later I have found help from ESWT and from chinese erectile dysfunction herb/medicine shugan yiyang capsules.

With Extracorporeal shock wave therapy, are you referring something you do with same device you use for heat? Light intensity pulsed ultrasound?
Could only using US for heating 3 x week, 20 min with stretching be beneficial for EQ?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

One thing I have get rid off is the cock ring use. And the sex feels much better already.

How do you feel about cock rings when pursuing length?

I, for example, don’t get my max bpel measurement/highest erection quality and hardest erection with the ring on, but I get serious base girth increases and glans expansion, glans expansion only ocasionally, but I never get my max length measurement.

Do you think it’s a little like length restricted pumping, when we edge with a cock ring? Could it hinder length gains?

I am only talking about a cock ring btw, not behind the balls, because I don’t do that anymore because it doesn’t turn me on for some reason, it used to but now it doesn’t.

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