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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
It seems that the problem occurs placing the transducers near each other.
I can´t say if any specific distance really helps or not. Igigi found the cure that way I recall.

It is clear that by making the upgrade like in the Cbateman case, there is no problem.
It seems not to be about acoustic cancellation but more likely the disturbance comes from the coils in the transducer head.
With a united power source it seems to work trouble-free

Thank you! This really makes me clear some thoughts I had.

- The consesus on the power source is 15v - 2.4A as a minimum, but if I choose 3A wont hinder it correct? (Mainly because I own already an universal 15V power source capable of 3A, and another of 19v 3.42A)

I believe the 19V DC would too much?

Originally Posted by fdersby8
Thank you! This really makes me clear some thoughts I had.

- The consesus on the power source is 15v - 2.4A as a minimum, but if I choose 3A wont hinder it correct? (Mainly because I own already an universal 15V power source capable of 3A, and another of 19v 3.42A)

I believe the 19V DC would too much?

Kyrpa - Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Yes, 3 A is no mistake.
No, don’t use 19 V.

@Kyrpa

Another question,

I orderered and received the pino GEL and it worked flawslessly. But because I need to use constant movement and gel, well… I have to use quite a lot (I have learned from my mistakes that pinching is for bad contact, so rather safe than sorry) and I thought on buying like 10L or two 5L juggs, but they told me they were out of stock…

So my question is: Do you have any other prefered brands?

PD:
Anyone that has tried other brands and can vouch for them?

Should I be concerned about an Ultrasound gel I bought on the store that contains methyl-parabens/parabens?


Stress Relaxation

Hello everyone,
I am having hard time finding a scale that can continuously measure the load - so I can track when the stress relaxation has occurred.

What scales are you guys using , I checked the yellow scale from Tutt’s protocol but on Amazon I read in comments that it also locks the load measured once stable.

Additional question, bit more difficult.
If I am using a elastic band or bungee rope , does the material of which it is made experience also stress relaxation - possible bias to when is the penis experiencing stress relaxation - as I monitor the scale - which is attached to the Vac Cup.

Thank you everyone for your time !

Happy new 2022 !! Lets all gain!

Originally Posted by Karroko2
Hello everyone,
I am having hard time finding a scale that can continuously measure the load - so I can track when the stress relaxation has occurred.

What scales are you guys using , I checked the yellow scale from Tutt’s protocol but on Amazon I read in comments that it also locks the load measured once stable.

Additional question, bit more difficult.
If I am using a elastic band or bungee rope , does the material of which it is made experience also stress relaxation - possible bias to when is the penis experiencing stress relaxation - as I monitor the scale - which is attached to the Vac Cup.

Thank you everyone for your time !

Happy new 2022 !! Lets all gain!

Yes that yellow scale is the one. It has a hidden manual switch that allows it to stay on continuously.

In regards ti the elastic bands, no, it doesnt give you biased data because the tension between the band and your penis is fixed regardless of how elastic the band is. If you hang 10kg on the other end of the band, wether the band stretches 1 meter or 10 centimeters, is irrelevant. The force or tension applied on the penis remains the same.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Karroko2
Hello everyone,
I am having hard time finding a scale that can continuously measure the load - so I can track when the stress relaxation has occurred.

What scales are you guys using , I checked the yellow scale from Tutt’s protocol but on Amazon I read in comments that it also locks the load measured once stable.

Additional question, bit more difficult.
If I am using a elastic band or bungee rope , does the material of which it is made experience also stress relaxation - possible bias to when is the penis experiencing stress relaxation - as I monitor the scale - which is attached to the Vac Cup.

Thank you everyone for your time !

Happy new 2022 !! Lets all gain!

I was looking for such a scale too. Would you have the name or a link to it?

Thanks

Originally Posted by igigi
Yes that yellow scale is the one. It has a hidden manual switch that allows it to stay on continuously.

In regards ti the elastic bands, no, it doesn’t give you biased data because the tension between the band and your penis is fixed regardless of how elastic the band is. If you hang 10kg on the other end of the band, whether the band stretches 1 meter or 10 centimeters, is irrelevant. The force or tension applied on the penis remains the same.

Thank you man !

Can you tell us how to turn it to continuous mode or there are instructions in package?

I double checked it for any instructions on Amazon:

https://www.ama … /dp/B0012T9QNA/

But I cannot find any info about continuous mode.

Originally Posted by Wespe
I was looking for such a scale too. Would you have the name or a link to it?

Thanks

Hey !
Check the link to my previous reply to Igigi.

I found a comment on the UK Amazon - how to to unlock continuous mode:

The useless HOLD feature, The Voyage Home.
Reviewed in the United States on 15 November 2011
THE VOYAGE HOME: I sent email to the company, Georgia-based American Weigh Scales. Apparently they have revised this scale since I purchased my copy and the switch inside the battery compartment does indeed turn off the HOLD feature if you would like to see a continuous readout. A very helpful account manager named Kevin agreed to replace my old scale with the new version. Now I have a useful scale. Thanks Kevin! Latest product manual is here (v3.0): www[dot]awscales[dot]com/hanging-scales/159-sr-20-digital-hanging-scale PART 3: I can hardly believe that I have to do this AGAIN! I must revise my review. The suggestion by SaraPap worked for quite a long time, my scale appeared to be reborn. I flipped the switch inside the battery compartment and the hold feature was defeated. But recently, when the batteries died and I replaced with fresh cells, the hold feature returned. At that time I was reminded of the true purpose for the little black switch inside the battery compartment-CALIBRATION. Switch “up”, power “on” and the scale enters calibration mode. See your manual, or this page: www[dot]americanweigh[dot]com/images/PDF/SR-Series_manual[dot]pdf Switch “down” power “on” and the scale is in weighing mode, with the useless HOLD feature! I fiddled endlessly, now the HOLD feature will not go away! Furthermore, the manual states that this model, the SR-5, calibrates with a 1kg weight (not included). But, when I put the switch “up” and enter calibration mode, my scale asks for a 5kg calibration weight! Odd, since 5kg is the max capacity of the scale. Excess load on these sensors is likely to cause damage, so I was not in a hurry to hang 5kg of chickpeas on my scale, but after endless fiddling I saw no other choice. Eventually I calibrated the scale, and it seems to work fine, but that is all very odd. And, the useless HOLD feature is back. Maybe Harry Potter moved in next door. I am baffled. I should not have deleted the original review. (PART 1) As long as this scale has the HOLD feature permanently enabled, it is USELESS. You will likely get a different result every time you weigh the same object, unless you pay infinite attention, and resort to double and triple-checking every time. If the object takes a little fiddling to get it on the hook, you will likely find that the HOLD feature locks onto a weight before you even have the entire load suspended. I learned to carefully get a few weights, and then zero the scale, REMOVE the load and observe the NEGATIVE weight displayed, and somehow do an average to get a ballpark figure. GOOD LUCK! PART 2: I am revising my review based on a smart comment by sara pap, see below. Now I really like this scale! There IS a way to defeat the HOLD function! Excellent! Thanks a ton, sara pap! I have deleted all of my previous commentary so that no mistake can be made by future amazon shoppers. For the record, I could not figure out how to defeat the HOLD function. I contacted the manufacturer, and they didn’t know either. Strange, the manufacturer was apparently not aware of the secret button. This is a great product. It’s been reborn! Highly recommend!

Stress Relaxation With Same Load

Another question to everyone,

When doing stress relaxation-

Penis is under locked tension of lets say 1.5 kg

Stress relaxation occurs when the load decreases ( tissues have relaxed and elongated so the locked tension is reduced) - load has decreased to 1.3kg e.g.

Now what happens next ?

Is it mandatory to progress the load -
( the load numbers are just for example)
First 30 mins from 1.5kg to 2.5 kg
20 mins US from 2.5 kg to 3 kg
Last 10 mins cooldown under 3.25kg

Or

Instead of progressing the Load , we keep it the same ,
So once it has dropped from 1.5kg to 1.3 kg due to stress relaxation of tissues,
We can simply unlock the tension and increase the load again to 1.5 kg.

And monitor when the next stress relaxation will occur.

Also can stress relaxation occur without any visible measurable elongation ( excluding any bias from moving your body). So load drops but you cannot measure increase in even 1 mm length.

Has anyone though about this or experimented with producing multiple stress relaxation with same load weight?

Or it is impossible without progressing the weight throughout the 1 hour protocol?

Thank you everyone for your time !

Originally Posted by Tutt
No, I’ve described my treatment in fair detail a few pages back in this thread. But I have actually learned quite a bit over the past 2 weeks that will require alteration of the treatment. Basically what it comes down to is that rate of strain is MUCH more important than I originally thought. I knew that it was important because all of the research said that stretching very slowly allowed for greater elongation of tendons with much less damage. But in these studies, they usually didn’t test just how slow is best. There was one study that showed a 1%/minute strain was able to achieve incredible elongation. So recently I have tested a few different strain rates; 0.5%, 1.0%, 2%, and 12% per minute.

The short summary is that 12% was WAY too fast and caused the tissue to stiffen dramatically. This means that when we quickly load into the stretch, the collagen tissues instantly stiffen and resist the stretch. This means in order to produce the permanent strain we would need to use really high loads. Then what happens is that our body will respond and thicken/strengthen the TA to be able to handle that high load the next time.

2%/minute was much better than 12%, but there was still a dramatic (I.e. Exponential) increase in the load as the strain increased. 1%/minute was significantly better than 2% and with heat I actually reached a point that the strain and load were increasing proportionately. 0.5%/minute was even better than 1%, but it wasn’t quite as much benefit, because what ends up happening is that it takes a REALLY LONG TIME, to achieve target strain at such a slow rate. Because for this to really work well, you have to start the stretch at about 0.5kg load, which for the most part will be well below the BPFSL.

For example, your relaxed length at 0.5kg load might be just 130mm while your typical BPFSL at high load might be 180mm. That means a strain rate of 0.5%/minute will be 0.9mm/minute. This means it will take 55 minutes just to progress up to the BPFSL. Then in my experience I’m able to stretch at that rate for another 10-15 minutes before I exceed 4kg load. But by then I’ve had my penis strained for too long and heated for too long, and my tailbone is hurting from sitting stationary for too long. So for me, it makes more sense to perform a warmup stretch at 1%/min and then do another 1%/min stretch on the second set just until I get close to the BPFSL and then slow down to 0.5%/min.

In the end, there are so far four elements to the treatment that are absolutely key.
1- Heat the internal tissues to at least 38-39C throughout all stretching. Then make sure that for the stretch close to and beyond the BPFSL, the internal tissues are heating to 41-42C for at least several minutes.
2- Try not to exceed a 1%/minute strain rate.
3- The ultimate strain must go at least 2.5-3.0% past the BPFSL to result in permanent elongation. And with a slow enough strain rate it can go well past that.
4- Once we reach the longest stretch, we need to lock the length and remove the heat to allow the tissues to cool in a fully extended state.

If there is a fifth key element, it will likely be to create a cyclic strain protocol, but so far it seems that the strain rate is more important than the cycles. And if we are limiting the treatment time to around 60 minutes, then multiple cycles aren’t really possible.

Hello Tutt,

From rereading this post , one thought boders me - isn’t initially measuring BPFSL just before begining protocol being counterproductive- as you said it triggers the stigfening response to tissues. I haven’t measured the load - but I assume that when each of us is measuring he is using more than 5 kg pull to reach his BPFSL.

Should we then measure BPFSL at the morning - use that as a starting point for the session and have the actual session later on during the day.

Also from your 4 elemnts - 60 mins protocol

For the first part of protocol 30 mins of stress relaxation- we are building slowly our length to near our current day Starting BPFSL -

Then once we move on to US heat (40/42 celsius) we aim for the sweet 3% elongation strain. If we have to measure that - would be difficult to those doing over the leg US heating.

So in the first 30 minutes we shouldn’t exceed that morning BPFSL . We only exceed that lenght in US heat Phase and hold that lenght at cool down phase.

So is this the most efficient way possible to do the US protocol?

I had the impression up to this post of yours,

That we begin the protocol close to our Starting BPFSL for the day and just repeat the stress relaxation up to the cooling Phase. Without tracking the Elongation. Just measure the final BPFSL and calculate strain.
This has brought amazing gains to the others.

what does AM and PM mean? I cant find it in the glossary


Starting measurements: Oct 2 2021: NBPFL 4" (10cm), BPFSL 5.7/8" (14.9ish cm), NPBEL 5.5" (13.9cm), BPEL: 5.75" (14.6cm), EG 4.5",

Current Measurements: Jan 11 2022: NBFSL 15 cm, BPFSL 17 cm, NPBEL 13.9 cm, BPEL 15.4 cm

Goals: BPEL 7.25" (18.4cm), NPBEL 7" (17.7cm), EG 6", Flaccid 5.5" Dream: NBPEL 8" (20.3cm), EG 6.5", Flaccid 6"

Originally Posted by IceAngel08
What does AM and PM mean? I can’t find it in the glossary

Maybe :

AM- angion method

PM- penimaster,

But I am not sure

Okay so I was thinking a lot how to set up my stress relaxation.

And more and more it seems that a puley and incremental weights are not needed .

If I attach a bungee cord to the wall - attached to my continuous measuring hang scale - which is attached to my vac cup - isn’t this the easiest and still effective way of doing stress relaxation.

I push my self back from the attached bungee cord and I create tension - lets say the scale shows 1 kg . I remain still intill the load drops ( 0.8 kg for example),
So my penis tissues have relaxed and elongated. Then I create 1 kg tension again and wait for next moment of relaxation.

This should be stress relaxation and not creep-as the tension is locked from the wall to my penis. It is not constantly pulling like the case with hanging weights, constantly pulling because of gravity.

In my described setup it is stress relaxation,
Only if I constantly adjust my self to keep the tension to be 1 kg - then it becomes a mixture of creep and stress relaxation.

Am I correct?

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