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I wonder if you who have gained using the US routine have noticed any increase in glans size? If the septum is the limiting factor and the surrounding tissues have through manual work been stretched past a certain limit, then this could result in the CC and CS not being enlarged to its max. If that is the case the glans would not fully enlarge during an erection.

If now the septum increases and the the CC and in this case especially the CS would go to its current limits the glans would fill up more leading to a higher pressure thus making it bigger.

Have you observed anything like that?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Tutt

You are likely at the point where you need a long decon. Leave it alone. Stress will likely just keep stiffening the tissue. At least 90 days IMO. 180 days even better.

I was afraid of this answer…. Thanks for your input!

Then I will go through the 6 months Decon.

Originally Posted by wurst
I wonder if you who have gained using the US routine have noticed any increase in glans size? If the septum is the limiting factor and the surrounding tissues have through manual work been stretched past a certain limit, then this could result in the CC and CS not being enlarged to its max. If that is the case the glans would not fully enlarge during an erection.

If now the septum increases and the the CC and in this case especially the CS would go to its current limits the glans would fill up more leading to a higher pressure thus making it bigger.

Have you observed anything like that?

“If the septum is the limiting factor and the surrounding tissues have through manual work been stretched past a certain limit, then this could result in the CC and CS not being enlarged to its max.”

CC and CS are 3d volumes meaning they expand bi-axially. If you have managed to stretch surrounding tissue to the septum, including the rest of the TA, you would gain girth as the longitudinal expansion is limited by the septum.

This was exactly what igigi experienced for years. Whatever he did, it resulted in girth gains.

For me, the vacuum attachment was the source of the glans enlargement.
The whole PE can be tracked behind the healthy CS/glans engorgement during the erection.
It was a serious problem before.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
For me, the vacuum attachment was the source of the glans enlargement.
The whole PE can be tracked behind the healthy CS/glans engorgement during the erection.
It was a serious problem before.

Are you referring to the vacuum attachment of your hanger/extender or of your pump?

What exactly do you mean by “The whole PE can be tracked behind the healthy CS/glans engorgement during the erection.”?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Are you referring to the vacuum attachment of your hanger/extender or of your pump?

What exactly do you mean by “The whole PE can be tracked behind the healthy CS/glans engorgement during the erection.”?

Yes, the vacuum attachment did stretch the glans bigger as well.

Before I started the journey my glans did not inflate very well at all.
It remained soft and not so engorged.

Nowadays it is fuller and harder and the same goes for CS during the erection.
I seriously cant point to any certain reason, but the PE as a whole.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

@Kyrpa

- What were your weights when you created your stress-strain curve? I want to replicate it in order to start my own log.

- How do I calculate my cross sectional area?

- Also is important to calculate it in flaccid state or stretched state? Which one of the two is the most important?

- Will the calculator you attatched in the “tunica albuginea revisited” thread work to calculate everyones cross sectional area of their penises? or Does it calculate the cross sectional area of the TA?


Last edited by fdersby8 : 11-25-2021 at .

Originally Posted by fdersby8
@Kyrpa

- What were your weights when you created your stress-strain curve? I want to replicate it in order to start my own log.

- How do I calculate my cross sectional area?

- Also is important to calculate it in flaccid state or stretched state? Which one of the two is the most important?

- Will the calculator you attatched in the “tunica albuginea revisited” thread work to calculate everyones cross sectional area of their penises? or Does it calculate the cross sectional area of the TA?

Look at the characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited thread and you will see a load calculator. Read the thread, it is eye-opening.


Starting point - 15.5 centimeters BPFLS=BPEL, 12 cm. MSEG /// Goal: 20 cm BPFLS, 18 cm BPEL, 14 cm MSEG

Let the marathon begin - Flowsky's progression

Originally Posted by fdersby8
KYRPA
- Will the calculator you attatched in the “tunica albuginea revisited” thread work to calculate everyones cross sectional area of their penises? Not just the cross sectional area of the TA?

Originally Posted by flowsky
Look at the characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited thread


Thanks.


Last edited by fdersby8 : 11-26-2021 at .

Originally Posted by fdersby8
@Kyrpa

- What were your weights when you created your stress-strain curve? I want to replicate it in order to start my own log.

- How do I calculate my cross sectional area?

- Also is important to calculate it in flaccid state or stretched state? Which one of the two is the most important?

- Will the calculator you attatched in the “tunica albuginea revisited” thread work to calculate everyones cross sectional area of their penises? or Does it calculate the cross sectional area of the TA?

As flowsky already suggested the calculator can be downloaded from the thread mentioned.
It shows the absolute cross-sectional area and more importantly the TA cross-sectional area as accurately as possible with the information at hand. TA area is the one having relevance, as the surrounding tissues don´t have the load-bearing capability at magnitude TA has. The calculator also shows the absolute cross-section area, which is irrelevant for the cause.

If you load, whatever device you use, starting from 0.5 kg in 0.5 kg increments at 10 minutes intervals measuring the BPFSL after each stage you can plot the curve. It is load- strain curve at that moment.

If you adjust it using your TA cross-sectional area produced by the calculator as a multiplier, you can find surprisingly accurately that the TA stiffens drastically between the 0.10 MPa to 0.17 MPa bracket.
Confirming what they presented in the thesis discussed in the characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited thread.

There is also advice available on how to measure.
It is at a flaccid, non-stretched state for having the comparability, correlating 100% to the research done in the thesis and by me, studying the cadaver pictures.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
As flowsky already suggested the calculator can be downloaded from the thread mentioned.
It shows the absolute cross-sectional area and more importantly the TA cross-sectional area as accurately as possible with the information at hand. TA area is the one having relevance, as the surrounding tissues don´t have the load-bearing capability at magnitude TA has. The calculator also shows the absolute cross-section area, which is irrelevant for the cause.

If you load, whatever device you use, starting from 0.5 kg in 0.5 kg increments at 10 minutes intervals measuring the BPFSL after each stage you can plot the curve. It is load- strain curve at that moment.

If you adjust it using your TA cross-sectional area produced by the calculator as a multiplier you can find surprisingly accurately that the TA stiffens drastically between the 0.10 MPa to 0.17 MPa bracket.
Confirming what they presented in the thesis discussed in the characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited thread.

There is also advice available on how to measure.
It is at a flaccid, non-stretched state for having the comparability, correlating 100% to the research done in the thesis and by me, studying the cadaver pictures.

Divider not multiplier. Also, the force needs to be in newtons. 1 MPa equals 1 N / mm^2.
Sorry for being in sleep writing the reply in the first place.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Divider not multiplier. Also, the force needs to be in newtons. 1 MPa equals 1 N / mm^2.
Sorry for being in sleep writing the reply in the first place.

This really helps! Kiitos kyrpa.

Have you had a routine with pumping and US? I see you just been focusing on the length with your US method.

My plan workout gonna be like: 1. 20 min vac extender with US 2. 10 min vac extender without US ( increase the tension every week, same level of tension during the week) 3. 15 min pump with 5x3 ( I noticed that penis comes out with best form on 3 min per set). 5 on 2 off.

Still catching up all your posts in the mean time.

I want girth and I read that 1 MHZ or 3MHZ are just fine, I have 2 years doing PE focusing on girth and no gains do you think this advice can help me ?

Also how would be a good routine only for girth I’m soft clamping 4 sets of 10 minutes but don’t know how or when to apply the US ?

@Kyrpa

I have read some posts back, that the transducer heads need to be 6cm separated (Post date in 2019). Even tho my BFPSL allows me to use both, with 6cm spacing I dont think I wont be able to even use them properly.

Referring to the issue that one head heats and the other doesnt. (Like what happened to @igigi, @CBATEMAN, and I think…yourself had this problem too?). I am encountering the same problem, one Transducer head does heat, but the other does not.

- After your trial and error, is needed a separation of 6cm between HEADS?

- Does The setup you linked to @CBATEMAN fixes the issue?

PD: Does anyone have encountered this problem too?

Originally Posted by fdersby8
@Kyrpa

I have read some posts back, that the transducer heads need to be 6cm separated (Post date in 2019). Even tho my BFPSL allows me to use both, with 6cm spacing I dont think I wont be able to even use them properly.

Referring to the issue that one head heats and the other doesnt. (Like what happened to @igigi, @CBATEMAN, and I think…yourself had this problem too?). I am encountering the same problem, one Transducer head does heat, but the other does not.

- After your trial and error, is needed a separation of 6cm between HEADS?

- Does The setup you linked to @CBATEMAN fixes the issue?

PD: Does anyone have encountered this problem too?

It seems that the problem occurs placing the transducers near each other.
I can´t say if any specific distance really helps or not. Igigi found the cure that way I recall.

It is clear that by making the upgrade like in the Cbateman case, there is no problem.
It seems not to be about acoustic cancellation but more likely the disturbance comes from the coils in the transducer head.
With a united power source it seems to work trouble-free


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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