Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Paying attention on first few minutes is important. After reaching 38.5C , it cools down smoothly by itself.

To Tutt and Kyrpa:

Thanks to both you for your rapid response and giving me the confidence in my plan. I’ll take your advice and ramp the heat down gradually with a 5 minute ramp down and then 10 minute “cold hold”.

If you warm down over 5 minutes, you shouldn’t need to hold it for more than a couple minutes more as it will hit ambient temp shortly after and there isn’t really any benefit. The new bonds form rapidly as it cools and the new length is set. After that we don’t want to accumulate any more cold strain time than necessary.

I know it’s a bit of a paradigm shift from normal techniques found on TP which emphasize more time under tension. For us, we are wanting to strain during a very specific heat window, then allow the bonds to reform. Once the tissues hit about 37C, we want to remove any load and just wait for the next session. Any additional stress at these low temps likely just results in faster plateaus.

Thanks for the reminder. I think while using US it cools down really quickly without concentrated effort to maintain it, so what I’ll do is 5 minutes ramp down and then 3-5 minutes to hold just in case I accidentally kept heat too high during the ramp down. That seems like a good middle point. Appreciate the looking out!

By the way, if you start to delve into girth expansion more in the future, that would be very very interesting. Like many of us here I have length goals that are primarily ego based and not really based on statistics or what the average sexual partner would love, but after a point in length (maybe 7-7.25”), it seems that girth is more flexible and rewarding than additional length. I’m going to be employing clamping (with heating cycles) but am very curious how we can apply any of this info to that goal.

I was pondering this and wondered about incorporated US heated bundled stretches before more traditional expansion exercises like clamping or possible length restricted heated pumping. Thoughts?

I just barely shared a summary of my thoughts on girth. That is where my focus has been.

Tutt - The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Sweet, thank you. I had no idea that thread existed (mostly only check in here for this thread lately). :)

As mentioned in my blog, I have resumed the US routine after quite a long time. The progress is rather slow at the moment. I get a strain of roughly 1.5% after each workout so I am trying to figure out what needs to be optimised. I noticed after today’s workout that my dick is rather stiff, not sloppy and flexible at all. Not sure what the goal is here. What have your experiences been in that regard?

My routines is as follows:

Phase 1 (25-30 min): Starting with 1 kg, every 5 min increase weight by 0.25 kg until 2,5 kg is reached
Phase 2 (US, twisted over the leg, around 30 min): From 2.5 kg to 3.5 kg, 0.2 kg increments)
Phase 3 (cool down): 10 min @4 kg, gradual cool down using the 3 different intensities of the US Pro 200 2nd edition for 5 minutes, after that 5 minutes without any US

Any ideas what could be optimised?

it seems you are going heavier than you should

You are already massive, if you stay between 0.10 and 0.17 MPa, you should see gains. I wish I can grow my dick to the size of yours.

You are talking about the weight while doing cool down, I guess? That is one thing I am going to experiment with. I read that you can either do the cool down with the same weight as with during the US part or up to 25% more.

I have no idea what MPa means and how that relates to the numbers I work with. Can you elaborate?

As far as my current ultimate goal is concerned, I know my dick is pretty large already. However, I want a longer dick just for the aesthetics of it. I guess +2 cm should be where I want to be. I will see.

I have just realized that I have hijacked your thread, Kyrpa. I am sorry. I will comment in my own progress log from now on.

Don´t worry about any hijackings, this log has long gone developed into platform of discussion about the practices introduced earlier.
Since there are some very important contributors into this thread besides me it will continue like this.
Also I have a new progress log where I will continue with my further journey with my personal PE.

The MPa(N/mm^2) values are pointing on the stress level the TA experiences during the transitional region of the stress-strain curve of penis(TA).
0.10 MPa is the threshold the transition from the toe region begins. The latter value (0.17 MPa) indicates the threshold we enter the elastic range from the transitional region,or heel region.
0.17 MPa threshold is also called as a inflection point in a recent study revealed in another thread, which has been evaluated and further developed and adapted to serve our cause.

The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

There is an excel form calculator developed to adjust the loading regarding to these threshold for individual cases.
Kyrpa - The characteristics of the tunica albuginea revisited

Take a look and adjust your loading and give a feedback on how it reflects in your case.
We´ll continue the discussion at that thread if it turns out there is some improvements available on loading.

Otherwise if there is anything to improve is the temperature control as the load and time variables mean nothing without the temperature threshold being met.

Hey Kyrpä,

I would need your advice regarding Decon. After 2 months of Decon, I wanted to start a period again. I abruptly stopped the last period at the beginning of August because of a blister (the gain rate was still good). Now in October I wanted to continue and over 3 cycles (3 on, 2 off) I achieved neither strains nor gains.
So it smells like a long Decon….

I read through your reasoning for the Decon’s again (Periodization reasoning part 1 and following). I also remember there being a discussion about length restricted pumping during decons before, unfortunately I couldn’t find the post anymore. At that time, if I remember correctly, the statement was that there is no “Decon light”. So either Decon or not.

Is that still the view? Would it be conceivable to train with length restricted pumping (e.g. 85% of BPEL) for a few months despite a long Decon, then possibly 2 - 3 months completely without PE. Or is the recommendation in case of a hard plateau to pause at least 6 or even more months with everything?

How long do you think the decon should be? To give you a scent marker on my gains over the last two years, I’ve gained about 9% by brute force (before I came here, I was just reading along at MoS) and another 9% with US. Between brute force and smart PE was another 2 months of Decon.

Thanks for your help!

You are likely at the point where you need a long decon. Leave it alone. Stress will likely just keep stiffening the tissue. At least 90 days IMO. 180 days even better.