Gaining volume with Kyrpa

I might have missed it but why are you extending to a point less than BPEL during treatment? I thought extending to the BPSFL would be preferred.

This is de -condition break treatments, I guess you missed the whole post. And I suggest you to reconsider the whole concept of Decon as well.
Nothing to do with stertching the structure at this point. Quite opposite , I am not in the actual PE program until 9 weeks have passed.
We just simply can´t do any stressful exercise during the break it woud ruin the whole healing process.

My only reasons for the extender use at decon is the nature of the practices.
The EWST with the energy flux used, is such a shock for the penis structures, the structure will most certainly retract because of it.
And I have already witnessed it does .
This is because using ESWT to healty soft tissue we are causing significant degradation of collagen. After the initial damages the healing process begins with high experession of growt factors etc.

Secondly there is reason to believe that after ESWT using the LIPUS the ECM structure will remodel in to new baseline intrernal stresslevel.
Thats why I keep introducing the elongated state, elongated enough but not at the point there is any external stress present.

Additional response.

Look, hopefully the first post didn´t sound as cold and arrogant I now read it myself. Straightforward and strictly business is the nature here, most of the time at least.

Anyways I would like to add that there is absolutely no intentions to keep every gained millimeter I have achieved.
I have only lost few millimeters to date and I am fully committed to trying to “reset” the residual stresses caused by the growth and the cumulative build up because of the exercise induced residual stress in the TA ECM.

The ESWT will most certainly cause me more loss of gains , but if the treatments I have now picked allow me to gain at the rate I formerly did, the loss is gained back and passed in really short time.

If I I were to desperately hold on to my previous gains I would jeopardize my future gains . Thats why the BPEL length not the BPFSL

I’ve mimicked yours and Kyrpa’s set up. Truly inspirational. The first 6 workouts I’ve done with the ultrasound workouts were definitely adjustments and trying to figure it all out. After my 6th workout today I think I have it figured out..

My set up, is the small digital scale similar to Tutt’s, a resistance band, and a vacuum cup.

Stress relaxation: seated in my chair with Penis extended strait out, in the vacuum cup, attached to a resistance band and the scale. I slowly push myself back until desired resistance. Every 10 minutes, the scale shows less weight is being used (moment of relaxation) so I increase resistance by 1.5lbs.

Heat therapy: 5lbs, 3mhz, 20mins @ 1.8w.

Post: attempted kyrpa’s cyclic manuals today. 10 minutes total. Variation of 4 pulls; strait out, to the left, to the right, strait down. Had the scale attached to my vacuum, registered about 8lbs of force before slippage. That’s where I could have done better. I was trying to get to about 11-13lbs of force from manual pulls but the vacuum simply can’t handle it. Wondering what my improvement for this portion could be?

Strain: 2.94%

Well, I believe the opposite. With your pioneering you will end up being the highest gainer revolutionary in the industry. My Lord Priapus bless you.

I will follow your advices in today’s therapy.

Today’s results

Initial BPFSL: 22.3 Down 0.2 from yesterday that I took off.
Final BPFSL: 23.1
Strain 3.4%

Followed Kyrpa’s advice of continuing relaxation through US, and also as an experimental step instead of reaching 4kg I reached 3.5kg.

Since my Initial BPFSL was down 0.2 from yesterday, I believe that I need to do the conventional 3 days on 2 days off protocol. I took yesterday off after the first 2 days. If I did a third day yesterday with the initial 22.5cm perhaps I could have achieved a longer measurement whole keeping the strain slightly over 3%. I plan on continue tomorrow and the day after for 3 consecutive days and then take 2 days off.

Great job! I just want to clarify so that we use correct terms… what you have described is sort of a hybrid creep protocol, not technically stress relaxation. If I’m understanding you right, the band attached to the digital scale is elastic. This converts the SR protocol to creep.

If the has mimicked the setup correctly, the vacuum cup is somehow locked in the position after applying the tension.
In my set up the cup rests in place against the slotted rubbery cushion, not able to move forward and in zaphoids case the hanger wire is locked to the table with clamping device after each loading. Then it is pure stress-relaxation setup.

The vacuum cup is not secured in place. Perhaps Tutt is right and I am doing a hybrid of SR and creep. I do not come from an engineering background, and have been trying to self-teach myself it all.

Because my scale shows less force being applied on my Penis every 10 minutes, does that not show SR? That doesn’t demonstrate equal strain with less stress?

Understand. No offense taken.
I have read your entire thread and read your updates daily. I own and use both devices you reference prior to discovering your thread.
Thank you for sharing your experiences.

What is the purpose of preheat with FIR? Can a lower power US be used instead?

I have used a 100 W black ceramic bulb for terrariums with wavelength presumably 2-6 microns (around $10) and it heats nicely when positioned within 6 inches but while the front of the unit gets hot and the thigh skin gets red the back side of the unit is cooler. Said bulb is also produced in 250 W but would need to be positioned further away to not burn the skin yet will cover more area at once if needed.

The video shows my understanding of what you and Tutt have explained in this thread. We want to be in the plastic region, and the initial stress is toe region.

My scale shows relaxation every 10 minutes.
0-10 mins at 1.1lbs of force, after 10 minutes it lessens to 0.9lbs.
10-20 mins increased another 1.1 pounds to 2.2lbs total, lessens to 1.9lbs
Etc

With the SR.. We shouldn’t be increasing tension every 5-10 minutes? Have you been doing SR with a fixed weight? What am I missing here?

This really depends on the stress-strain characteristics of whatever band you are using. IOW, if the band had a large strain region at nearly equivalent stress, then you wouldn’t be seeing any drop in load on the scale because the band would be readily taking up the few millimeters of penis elongation. More likely, you are operating at a steeply upward sloping portion of the band’s stress-strain curve. It takes up some of the penis elongation before you notice a drop in load, but eventually there has been enough to begin to de-stress the band.

As Kyrpa said, if you figured an easy way to lock the strain after each time you move backward, it would be pure stress relaxation. I would say that creep is not terrible. There are several studies on other material showing SR and Creep to produce similar total elongation. There are just a few characteristics of this living organ that I believe make SR preferred. But creep will still work.

Thanks for the reply Tutt. We all do appreciate yours and Kyrpa’s knowledge- and I really am self-teaching myself these engineering concepts.

I’ll have to figure out how to lock the strain, and find a cord that has no stretch available to it. That concept, and whether or not to increase the tension every 5-10minutes is what I believe I am having a very difficult time grasping..

In the video below is shows the curve and at 4:20 the plastic region we desire. Good for people looking for examples

This is my favorite subject. I am afraid that the plastic region so often mentioned during the years is nothing we would desire.
I am sure none of the practitioners in the history of PE have never reached it. Despite there have been hangers hanging with 80,100 and 200lbs for hours. At least one of the recognized persons amongst us has been hanging short times with ridiculous 300 lbs.

Plastic region is one of the major misunderstandings these communities have been continuously repeating without any contact to the reality.
Operating at the plastic region would mean we were just about to break and completely destroy our penises accidentally at any minute.

I have been encouraging people to take a load - strain curves of their own penises to see where we really operate.
If the community had done that starting at 2002 when these thought were presented at first place , all of us would be gaining 2 inch in length in no time.

Hopefully now almost twenty years gone, we can start to work our way through with some data to rely on.

We are operating at the turning point of the end of the toe region and the the start of the elastic region. There can be seen dramatic stiffening seen if the loads are to high or the load is applied in fast rate. I have showed in repeatedly already for longer than year now. Alex 2.0 did find out the elongating stopping at the end of toe region as well

Newest data Tutt has provided insights in the possibility to ease the stiffening and lure the strain further to the elastic range.

The plastic deformation aka permanent elongation start to develop at much lower strains than where the plastic region is located on the curve.
Plastic deformation start to occur at 3% strain part of the strain at this range being irreversible.
Continuing to repeat these strains the cumulative residual elongation is seen as a permanently elongated penis.

The therapeutic heat at 40 C allows significantly higher level of this plastic deformation because of the altered viscous flow properties due the temperature.
With the heat there will be dramatically lower level of damage caused in the tissue relative to the given strain.
Getting in to 3-4% strain range with cold tissue any of the methods allowing this causes inevitable micro-structural damages.

We will continue to produce data to get this sorted out once and for all . And I challenge everyone to do it as it is a simple task.