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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Azmike
Understand. No offense taken.
I have read your entire thread and read your updates daily. I own and use both devices you reference prior to discovering your thread.
Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Great to hear. How have you incorporated the applications in your approach and did you find benefits as well?
I guess everyone reading this are curious to hear the insights.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
I’ve mimicked yours and Kyrpa’s set up. Truly inspirational. The first 6 workouts I’ve done with the ultrasound workouts were definitely adjustments and trying to figure it all out. After my 6th workout today I think I have it figured out..

My set up, is the small digital scale similar to Tutt’s, a resistance band, and a vacuum cup.

Stress relaxation: seated in my chair with Penis extended strait out, in the vacuum cup, attached to a resistance band and the scale. I slowly push myself back until desired resistance. Every 10 minutes, the scale shows less weight is being used (moment of relaxation) so I increase resistance by 1.5lbs.

Heat therapy: 5lbs, 3mhz, 20mins @ 1.8w.

Post: attempted kyrpa’s cyclic manuals today. 10 minutes total. Variation of 4 pulls; strait out, to the left, to the right, strait down. Had the scale attached to my vacuum, registered about 8lbs of force before slippage. That’s where I could have done better. I was trying to get to about 11-13lbs of force from manual pulls but the vacuum simply can’t handle it. Wondering what my improvement for this portion could be?

Strain: 2.94%

Never mind the slippage, run the application at the limits it provides and wait and see for a few rounds how everything pans out . I personally prefer manual v-grip instead of vacuum cup . My glans is prone to blisters being such a long tiime in the vacuum at that stage already.
The first few strokes are the most important after the heat is removed , ease in to max tension slowly.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Never mind the slippage, run the application at the limits it provides and wait and see for a few rounds how everything pans out . I personally prefer manual v-grip instead of vacuum cup . My glans is prone to blisters being such a long tiime in the vacuum at that stage already.
The first few strokes are the most important after the heat is removed , ease in to max tension slowly.

Will do. I don’t get blisters but my glands can get extremely swollen sometimes. Today I had no slippage, and was able to achieve 10lbs of force.

For my stress relaxation, would a cord attached to a solid surface, and to my mini digital scale + vacuum bell be efficient if I push my self back enough in my chair?

The scale would register the amount of force, and so long as I keep still, it would show the relaxation within 5-10 minutes?

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
Will do. I don’t get blisters but my glands can get extremely swollen sometimes. Today I had no slippage, and was able to achieve 10lbs of force.

For my stress relaxation, would a cord attached to a solid surface, and to my mini digital scale + vacuum bell be efficient if I push my self back enough in my chair?

The scale would register the amount of force, and so long as I keep still, it would show the relaxation within 5-10 minutes?

Yes. Good thinking ,yet another way to manage stress relaxation. Another would be still to use elastic band for loading, but between the band and the vacuum cup is a piece of solid cord, which is the able to be fixed into chair or some other element with a quick release bar clamp.

After each relaxation you re-load , Tutt may have the most upgraded info on the threshold decrease in the load when to re-load.
Basically the stress-relaxation occurs rapidly decreasing the load when it happens so every time you see it, re-load no matter the timeline.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes. Good thinking ,yet another way to manage stress relaxation. Another would be still to use elastic band for loading, but between the band and the vacuum cup is a piece of solid cord, which is the able to be fixed into chair or some other element with a quick release bar clamp.

After each relaxation you re-load , Tutt may have the most upgraded info on the threshold decrease in the load when to re-load.
Basically the stress-relaxation occurs rapidly decreasing the load when it happens so every time you see it, re-load no matter the timeline.

Perfect, that’ll be for tomorrow’s workout to complete that cycle. Thank you

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes. Good thinking ,yet another way to manage stress relaxation. Another would be still to use elastic band for loading, but between the band and the vacuum cup is a piece of solid cord, which is the able to be fixed into chair or some other element with a quick release bar clamp.

After each relaxation you re-load , Tutt may have the most upgraded info on the threshold decrease in the load when to re-load.
Basically the stress-relaxation occurs rapidly decreasing the load when it happens so every time you see it, re-load no matter the timeline.


Perhaps someone in this thread could put together a simple diagram of a SR set-up using a vacuum cap, a fish scale, a fixed holder-chair/element w/quick release clamp all with relation to where one would correctly sit(maybe also using a rolling chair). I’m a visual/tactile learner and would benefit greatly from this.

Also, could the Penimaster (and Penimaster Pro) be modified somehow to allow the end plate where the vacuum cup attaches to, instead to freely slide along added extension bars to a fixed point somewhere out front with an added fish scale to measure weight strain?

Just throwing these random ideas out for other’s thoughts.

DJ

Originally Posted by DaytonaJonah
Perhaps someone in this thread could put together a simple diagram of a SR set-up using a vacuum cap, a fish scale, a fixed holder-chair/element w/quick release clamp all with relation to where one would correctly sit(maybe also using a rolling chair). I’m a visual/tactile learner and would benefit greatly from this.

Also, could the Penimaster (and Penimaster Pro) be modified somehow to allow the end plate where the vacuum cup attaches to, instead to freely slide along added extension bars to a fixed point somewhere out front with an added fish scale to measure weight strain?

Just throwing these random ideas out for other’s thoughts.

DJ

I think we will make some sort of review on the possible setups.

Of course with enough extension bars there are plenty of possibilities to implement , the excact one you presented being the very basis of the setup. If the scale is analogous ,the vacuum cup would need the slider with locking mechanism.
If the scale is load cell type, no slider is needed.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Today’s therapy

Initial BPFSL: 22.5
Final BPFSL: 23.1
Strain: 2.5%


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Today’s therapy

Initial BPFSL: 22.5
Final BPFSL: 23.1
Strain: 2.5%

Nice, you had kept the 0.2 that you had lost from the day off. How was this workout compared to last? Same application? My math says you hit 2.66 strain btw :)

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
Nice, you had kept the 0.2 that you had lost from the day off. How was this workout compared to last? Same application? My math says you hit 2.66 strain btw :)

Really? Isn’t final bpfsl - initial bpfsl / final bpfsl x 100?

I did the same application, but still in non ideal conditions. I have an idea already on how to properly replicate stress relaxation. My only concern is that I reached the same final measurement from yesterday. I will have to review Other’s experiences on their initial therapies to see if it is something expected or not. We will see what happens tomorrow. Then, I will follow up with 2 days off.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Really? Isn’t final BPFSL - initial BPFSL / final BPFSL x 100?

I did the same application, but still in non ideal conditions. I have an idea already on how to properly replicate stress relaxation. My only concern is that I reached the same final measurement from yesterday. I will have to review Other’s experiences on their initial therapies to see if it is something expected or not. We will see what happens tomorrow. Then, I will follow up with 2 days off.

I’ve been doing [(Post BPFSL ÷ Pre BPFSL)-1] x 100

Found in Alex2.0’s thread post #11 My Stress - Strain Curve

Originally Posted by Alex2.0
“..

Equations Used
Strain (%) = [(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100
Stress (force/area) = (Force Load)/(cross sectional area)

.”

My issue has been the stress relaxaton setup too. Over the past two workouts and with Kyrpa and Tutt’s guidance I’ll be trying what I hope is the best scenario for myself. Keep us posted!


Last edited by DantheMan2020 : 06-13-2020 at .

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
I’ve been doing [(Post BPFSL ÷ Pre BPFSL)-1] x 100

Found in Alex2.0’s thread post #11 My Stress - Strain Curve

My issue has been the stress relaxaton setup too. Over the past two workouts and with Kyrpa and Tutt’s guidance I’ll be trying what I hope is the best scenario for myself. Keep us posted!

Basically the penis has to hook with a scale. From the scale (I’ve been using a bungee cord, but will replace with a hard wire) a hard wire comes out and goes through a pulley. On the other side of the pulley is the load of course. All we need is a cable clamp. Set the desired load, and clamp the cable on the entrance of the pulley so it cant keep going to the other side where the load is. Then we are able to measure the relaxation in the scale. In order to move up in load, release the clamp, stress will go up again, clamp again. The other aspect is body movement. Ideally this has to be done in a couch/seat position comfortable enough to minimize movement.

One aspect that I have found important in my opinion, is the way Kyrpa had done his protocol by resting his penis on his leg. I have been doing the same and is useful for a couple of reasons. 1) it serves to receive the US waves on the other side of the penis so they dont get lost, and 2) it gives you the accurate sensation of heat on the other side, letting you know exactly where are you targeting, and if the waves are indeed going through. If my penis was in the air or with a gel pad, I would have to trust the device and motion as the only parameters without feeling anything.

Im thinking about developing my setup right here where I sit with my laptop. Its in the island of my kitchen which is tall, and the countertop is wooden underneath where I can install a pulley.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Basically the penis has to hook with a scale. From the scale (I’ve been using a bungee cord, but will replace with a hard wire) a hard wire comes out and goes through a pulley. On the other side of the pulley is the load of course. All we need is a cable clamp. Set the desired load, and clamp the cable on the entrance of the pulley so it can’t keep going to the other side where the load is. Then we are able to measure the relaxation in the scale. In order to move up in load, release the clamp, stress will go up again, clamp again. The other aspect is body movement. Ideally this has to be done in a couch/seat position comfortable enough to minimize movement.

One aspect that I have found important in my opinion, is the way Kyrpa had done his protocol by resting his penis on his leg. I have been doing the same and is useful for a couple of reasons. 1) it serves to receive the US waves on the other side of the penis so they don’t get lost, and 2) it gives you the accurate sensation of heat on the other side, letting you know exactly where are you targeting, and if the waves are indeed going through. If my penis was in the air or with a gel pad, I would have to trust the device and motion as the only parameters without feeling anything.

I’m thinking about developing my setup right here where I sit with my laptop. Its in the island of my kitchen which is tall, and the countertop is wooden underneath where I can install a pulley.

Sounds like a variation of zaphod1’s method, could definitely work.

Are you using a 1mhz system? I’m currently using a 3mhz and wondering if I should also do Kyrpa’s over the leg method too, in order to contain the heat and gauge it more efficiently

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
Nice, you had kept the 0.2 that you had lost from the day off. How was this workout compared to last? Same application? My math says you hit 2.66 strain btw :)

To put off some personal pressure to achieve, despite the daily measurements and achieved strains, keep monitoring the gains in phases. I do the gain monitoring in 3+2 days cycles measuring the BPFSL at the resting day. I excpect myself to be gaining on BPFSL 1-2 mm in 5 days.
The way I see it you both are doing well in to margins, having the jump start.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
Sounds like a variation of zaphod1’s method, could definitely work.

Are you using a 1mhz system? I’m currently using a 3mhz and wondering if I should also do Kyrpa’s over the leg method too, in order to contain the heat and gauge it more efficiently

I am using two 1Mhz transducers. 3Mhz is supposed to heat closer to the surface, but in my opinion you would benefit too from having that leg “feeling” of heat. Because the dick doesnt really feel that like the normal skin. So when I feel that burn in my leg underneath, then Im putting the flame where is supposed to be.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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