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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by igigi
I got lost after the tension pulling downwards LOL. What kind of rubbery cushion between the cup and the seat are you referring to?

I have one I found in household inventory once, I really don´t know if it is a microphone table stand or what.
Anyways it has a slot carved on the top and the cup locks in the slot nicely .
When I do the stretch sitting still in the sofa, I load the tension and the pull directed slightly downwards at the edge the simple locking mechanism is easy to use.
The vacuum cup rests sticking in the slot not able to move despite the load pulling it.

Well , I am sorry but I don´t remember who made the stress relaxation with hanger.
Hanging in the front of the desk having pulley under the desk. Once loaded the wanted force then locking just the wire, disabeling the wire to pull any further despite the continuous load behind.
There are so many variations to use if we think about it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Is the weight of the crawl from heavier to lighter or from lighter to heavy how much pressure is changed every five minutes

Originally Posted by Tutt
More results today. I’ll publish the charts later when there is more to see, but in summary, I went back to the original protocol but with an keen focus on rate of strain. Basically, that made the protocol very similar to what I proposed in post 98 in this thread. I did one warm set under FIR lamp with a strain rate of 1%/min and stopped once the load reached 1kg. It took about 15 minutes to get to that load target and the associated BPFSL was 5mm longer than the previous sessions with the same target load. This also exceeded the manual pre-treatment BPFSL by 1mm.

Second set, I used the same strain rate of 1%/min with a strain target of 2.5% above the warmup set. Once I got to that target under FIR, I applied US heat for 5 minutes. Then locked strain cooldown for 5 mintues and rest for 5 minutes. The peak load from this set was 2kg.

Third set, I repeated the process from set 2, but targeted a strain 1% beyond the previous set (+3.5% above warm set baseline). Peak load from this set was 2.1kg.

Fourth set, I repeated the process again, but targeted a strain 1% beyond the previous set (+4.5% above baseline). When I reached the target strain, the load was still below the 2.0kg target, so I continued at 1%/min rate until 2.0kg load was reached. Peak load from this set was, 2.0kg and ultimate cumulative strain was +6.6% above baseline.

I would’ve liked to take a bit more time in cooldown, but I had other things to do. After some time flaccid, I took a manual post-treatment BPFSL. The strain was +3.1% from pre-session, and +2.2% longer than last Thurs post measurement. I don’t particularly like the manual measurements. There is too much variability compared to the device measurements. If I take manual measurements 10 times, they might fluctuate +- 2mm depending on perspective and tissue interference. Basically, the manual measurement attempts to measure from the top center of the pubic bone, which is also where there are skin and ligs pulled very tight trying to lift the ruler off the bone. The extender anchors off the pubic bone to either side of the penis and returns a much tighter tolerance; approx +- 0.5mm, and I know how much force is being applied for the measurement.

I think you are having still too high strain rate, especially at the 3rd and the 4rth set. At the strains at this level the visco-elastic stiffening is very pronounced.
Going down on the strain introducing pace at this point could be better . 1%/min rate sounds fast.

Seems to me you are in full creep protocol not having the timeline presented and describing the load target reach out the way it is now presented.
After reaching target strains did you lock the strain ?
What were the loading intervals both in time and load , and were there how much time for stress-relaxation?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Is the weight of the crawl from heavier to lighter or from lighter to heavy how much pressure is changed every five minutes

In which phase and in which protocol you are referring?. The context is missinng here


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Thats what I thought also before Tutt started to show some figures, I was sure the loads will be skyrocketing in the static cooldown.
But that is not the case, the stress relaxation seems to be increased to such a high level the initial peak is smoothened really effectively.
The following stiffening peaks are even smaller than the first one. Despite felt discomfort the loads aren´t actually sky high.
Of coure this can be relative to the initial load, Tutt havign such a low load , the peaks and the discomfort level are low as well .
If the load is significantly higher at the cooldown start, maybe the thermally increased stress relaxation can´t cope with it and the initial force peak should rise.

Thatś the pi you are presenting. I am not sure why?

Yet there is permanent (seemingly plastic) elongation seen with the therapeutic heat induced strain, we are nowhere near the plastic zone.

The term plastic zone, or plastic region applies with fully elastic materials. It is a engineering term fitting poorly with living biological soft tissue.
Plastic zone occurs in elastic materials under tensile stress after the elastic properties are in the end of the their range .
It can be seen in the stress strain curve as a significant flattening bonds been broken , material yielding resulting sudden significant lengthening before it breaks.

If you have been taking a look into load strain curve we are operating in the very beginning of the elastic region. A plastic zone , if there ever was one for the piece we are stretching would occur at the end of the elastic region. And we have not weakened the material that much plastic zone had been lowered this low.
That would mean we are just about to break our weapon.

Warren, Lehmann et co, have been telling since 1970 that there is relatively small amount of damages in the tissue relative the given strain with heat.
The closer the temperature was to 45C the stronger the tissue was in given strain , in fact they said that producing the strains greater we do under 45 C it can be done just about damage free.

The magic happening due thermal transition may present plastic deformation, but no way we can use the term plastic region or yield strength in this occasion.
It is a living organ having very high visco-elastic characteristics and no way the typical elastic materials stress strain curve fits in the picture.

There is one point worth noting. In my protocol, the target strain and peak load in each cycle is reached under with heat, and there is 5-8 more minutes of heated stress relaxation without any additional strain before the heat is removed. So by the time the heat is remove for a locked strain cooldown, the load has already dropped back down to 1.5kg. Then with the heat removed and the strain fixed, the penis goes through a series of autonomous stiffening/relaxing cycles, first pulsing with an positive slope to the load/time curve, and then pulsing with a negative slope to the load/time curve. At these levels, the variance of each pulse is about 0.22kg.

The lower the initial load, the lesser the cumulative load gain to the cold peak. I imagine what you are saying is correct. If I was to rapidly increase the strain to reach 5kg+ load and then immediately remove the heat, there would be a greater load climb during cooldown and it would be very uncomfortable.

Also, after the treatment today, I am increasingly convinced that the heated SR prior to removing heat and a full cooldown with fixed strain is very important. If the load is removed prior to cooldown, the collagen recoils significantly.

With regard to the plastic zone, I was surprised to see and feel the response during the treatment today. I’m increasing the strain so slowly that with modestly higher loads and more time I could’ve achieved significantly higher strains. There was no discomfort at all in the last set and the load-strain did not appear to be going parabolic. IOW, at a strain rate of 1%, the stress relaxation was still almost keeping pace with the additional strain.


Last edited by Tutt : 06-09-2020 at .

Originally Posted by Tutt

I would’ve liked to take a bit more time in cooldown, but I had other things to do. After some time flaccid, I took a manual post-treatment BPFSL. The strain was +3.1% from pre-session, and +2.2% longer than last Thurs post measurement. I don’t particularly like the manual measurements. There is too much variability compared to the device measurements. If I take manual measurements 10 times, they might fluctuate +- 2mm depending on perspective and tissue interference. Basically, the manual measurement attempts to measure from the top center of the pubic bone, which is also where there are skin and ligs pulled very tight trying to lift the ruler off the bone. The extender anchors off the pubic bone to either side of the penis and returns a much tighter tolerance; approx +- 0.5mm, and I know how much force is being applied for the measurement.

The incremental strain percentages are so much different in the application you are using than the absolute meausurements on BPFSL.
I bet it is very confusing for the reader at the moment.

Like it or not without the BPFSL measurements we don´t have a clue on the absolute development of our penises.

I can´t measure the BPFSL with the ruler in the top just like you described either. But in the 10 o’clock there is a slot free of any disturbances where I can push the ruler firmly against the pubic arch. Pushing hard and feeling some pain the readings are accurate enough and repeatable. Sitting every time in the same position after thousand repetitions it comes naturally and it is +-1mm .Taking three at time you have the average to document. And I do have a adjustable pointer on my ruler, made out of plactic caliper.

I doubt that the set up you are using is not that much more accurate despite the readings on the micrometer, the setup is not stable.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Tutt

With regard to the plastic zone, I was surprised to see and feel the response during the treatment today. I’m increasing the strain so slowly that with modestly higher loads and more time I could’ve achieved significantly higher strains. There was no discomfort at all in the last set and the load-strain did not appear to be going parabolic. IOW, at a strain rate of 1%, the stress relaxation was still almost keeping pace with the additional strain.

You should go further AND plot a a graph to find out how far right the stiffening can be moved.
It will happen with relatively small increments on load keepng the time interval constant.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes. The values should be average of more than 3% for gaining fast. I can go through the notes of mine and others available and present some combined statististics.

Thanks man. If you don’t mind that would be great.


PhoenixNow Progress Reports

Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by PhoenixNow
Thanks man. If you don’t mind that would be great.

I already did. guess you missed it .

Kyrpa - Gaining volume with Kyrpa


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I already did. guess you missed it .

Kyrpa - Gaining volume with Kyrpa


I did miss it. Thank you once again for your kindness Kyrpa.


PhoenixNow Progress Reports

Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

For the manual cyclic stretches, are there ones in particular that should be performed?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well , I am sorry but I don´t remember who made the stress relaxation with hanger.
Hanging in the front of the desk having pulley under the desk. Once loaded the wanted force then locking just the wire, disabeling the wire to pull any further despite the continuous load behind.
There are so many variations to use if we think about it.

I’m the guy that made the stress-relax hanging setup under my home office desk :-) I’ve posted some pictures here (once approved by mod), so that folks can see how it works. The whole thing can be set up and broken down within minutes so that no one (in my family) is any the wiser. The cable is some sort of nylon stuff with metal strands woven through it (zero stretch) that I found in the garage :-) The pulley and cable stay in place permanently - tucked up at the back, nobody has noticed it yet. The hacked together wooden block thing clamped under the desk is simply so that, when the cable is clamped for stress-relax, the cable is in line with the top of the pulley and parallel to the ground. I use standard dumb-bell weights and the metal end screw things as incremental additions (each weighs approximately 250g). The part that I’m particularly happy with is the attachment method. Hopefully this is clear in the photos. I use a loose noose attachment (photo shows that this is *not* choking my glans) via a Wii controller strap with a trimmed cloth elastic toe shield for comfort. This “hooks” under the top of the coronal ridge and pulls from there. There is zero skin stretch and the pull is applied directly to the cord/septum (so it feels to me anyway :-) ). It has never slipped with the sort of weights we use in this protocol (I use a max of 3kg for the last 3-5 mins of my final heated set).

Now for a progress report. I’ve been applying the protocol for just under a year now. I’ve only been using IR heat (150w bulb just out of view to the left in the photos; held in a flexible goose necked lamp holder; approximately 6-8 inches or so from skin) and rice sock. Since starting, I’ve had a hard and fast decon schedule imposed by school holidays - one two week break, one six week break (over Xmas) and, just recently, an unscheduled two month (COVID lockdown-induced) break :-) I haven’t seen (or expected) growth rates as high as Kypra, however, I have increased my t0 BPFSL by between 1/2 to 5/8th of an inch. BPEL has increased somewhere between 1/4 and 3/8th of an inch. These are *not* newbie gains - 18 months of “conventional” PE before this had given me approximately an inch.

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Last edited by LittleEngine : 06-10-2020 at .

Originally Posted by zaphod1
I’m the guy that made the stress-relax hanging setup under my home office…

Well done brother, nice set up!


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Originally Posted by zaphod1
I’m the guy that made the stress-relax hanging setup under my home office desk :-) I’ve posted some pictures here (once approved by mod), so that folks can see how it works. The whole thing can be set up and broken down within minutes so that no one (in my family) is any the wiser. The cable is some sort of nylon stuff with metal strands woven through it (zero stretch) that I found in the garage :-) The pulley and cable stay in place permanently - tucked up at the back, nobody has noticed it yet. The hacked together wooden block thing clamped under the desk is simply so that, when the cable is clamped for stress-relax, the cable is in line with the top of the pulley and parallel to the ground. I use standard dumb-bell weights and the metal end screw things as incremental additions (each weighs approximately 250g). The part that I’m particularly happy with is the attachment method. Hopefully this is clear in the photos. I use a loose noose attachment (photo shows that this is *not* choking my glans) via a Wii controller strap with a trimmed cloth elastic toe shield for comfort. This “hooks” under the top of the coronal ridge and pulls from there. There is zero skin stretch and the pull is applied directly to the cord/septum (so it feels to me anyway :-) ). It has never slipped with the sort of weights we use in this protocol (I use a max of 3kg for the last 3-5 mins of my final heated set).

Now for a progress report. I’ve been applying the protocol for just under a year now. I’ve only been using IR heat (150w bulb just out of view to the left in the photos; held in a flexible goose necked lamp holder; approximately 6-8 inches or so from skin) and rice sock. Since starting, I’ve had a hard and fast decon schedule imposed by school holidays - one two week break, one six week break (over Xmas) and, just recently, an unscheduled two month (COVID lockdown-induced) break :-) I haven’t seen (or expected) growth rates as high as Kypra, however, I have increased my t0 BPFSL by between 1/2 to 5/8th of an inch. BPEL has increased somewhere between 1/4 and 3/8th of an inch. These are *not* newbie gains - 18 months of “conventional” PE before this had given me approximately an inch.

Thank you so much for sharing your setup my friend!!


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by zaphod1
I’m the guy that made the stress-relax hanging setup under my home office desk :-) I’ve posted some pictures here (once approved by mod), so that folks can see how it works. The whole thing can be set up and broken down within minutes so that no one (in my family) is any the wiser. The cable is some sort of nylon stuff with metal strands woven through it (zero stretch) that I found in the garage :-) The pulley and cable stay in place permanently - tucked up at the back, nobody has noticed it yet. The hacked together wooden block thing clamped under the desk is simply so that, when the cable is clamped for stress-relax, the cable is in line with the top of the pulley and parallel to the ground. I use standard dumb-bell weights and the metal end screw things as incremental additions (each weighs approximately 250g). The part that I’m particularly happy with is the attachment method. Hopefully this is clear in the photos. I use a loose noose attachment (photo shows that this is *not* choking my glans) via a Wii controller strap with a trimmed cloth elastic toe shield for comfort. This “hooks” under the top of the coronal ridge and pulls from there. There is zero skin stretch and the pull is applied directly to the cord/septum (so it feels to me anyway :-) ). It has never slipped with the sort of weights we use in this protocol (I use a max of 3kg for the last 3-5 mins of my final heated set).

Now for a progress report. I’ve been applying the protocol for just under a year now. I’ve only been using IR heat (150w bulb just out of view to the left in the photos; held in a flexible goose necked lamp holder; approximately 6-8 inches or so from skin) and rice sock. Since starting, I’ve had a hard and fast decon schedule imposed by school holidays - one two week break, one six week break (over Xmas) and, just recently, an unscheduled two month (COVID lockdown-induced) break :-) I haven’t seen (or expected) growth rates as high as Kypra, however, I have increased my t0 BPFSL by between 1/2 to 5/8th of an inch. BPEL has increased somewhere between 1/4 and 3/8th of an inch. These are *not* newbie gains - 18 months of “conventional” PE before this had given me approximately an inch.

Beautiful and innovative preparation Thank you for sharing the images for the benefit of all

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