My Progress

I recently started back taking my cardio supplement after a month off of it. I noticed that in the gym it gave me 2 extra reps on some of my lifts in the gym. Also it increased my sex drive, EQ, and seems as if it increased my recovery speed. I may increase my stretches by 1 this week. I am cutting so my sex drive and function aren’t at their best right now. Recovery ability is lower on a cut too especially extended ones. In bodybuilding usually things that increase recovery speed increase the rate of gains. I was on cardio before I just took a month off due to being low on funds. But these are things I noticed.

What supplement were you taking? I’ve found creative, ZMA’s, L-arginine, and vitamin D to be especially helpful.

It’s called cardio. I get it from amazon. It promotes blood flow with arginine, citrulline, and other antioxidants. It doesn’t wear off like pure arginine and citrulline alone it keeps working. Gives great pumps in the gym as well. As for other supplements they are for the gym so they may or may not help anything in pe. Whey protein, creatine (been on it for about a month now), liquid fish oil, msm powder, and zinc citrate. Creatine makes my recovery from gym workouts way faster. No effect on pe though that I know of. I can do a full blown leg workout every 5 days instead of 7 and I don’t get DOMS at all anymore.

Today’s measurement are.

8.31 BP
7.37 NBP

Total lengrh gains: .6875

I didn’t measure girth. I will measure that when I can see a difference. For some reason wet jelqing allows me to get more expansion maybe because I can grab deeper into the base. I can do a longer jelq stroke lasting 8 seconds on average. My calories are low right now so I don’t know if gains will slow or not but I’m still pushing. I’ve made all these gains while being in a calorie deficit so I should be able to make even more. Got about 8 more lbs to lose to be as ripped as I want to be. Crazy that I’m already lean enough to have unflexed visible abs but still have a .9 fat pad. I have veins showing near my Adonis belt without even flexing.

Routine today was:

17x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs

I’ve noticed that every since I started back taking the cardio my recovery has been way better. I will increase my stretches time to 10mins instead of the 8.5 I did last workout. According to my log I made that quick .125” gain when I was doing 10mins of stretching. I was mostly taking the supplement only as a pre-workout (for gym use only) but I think my recovery wasn’t the same on the days that I did not take it causingredients me to eventually lower my volume. I thought it was weird that for about 3 or 4 workouts I could stretch for 10mins without needing extra rest days then all of a sudden it became too much. I think the extra bloodflow is what helps it heal faster which means better gains. Not saying that you need supplements but for me being in a calorie deficit for so long my recovery ability without it is trash.

But during the very first 2 weeks of my cut my recovery was great and then I noticed a change and had to cut my routine in half. That’s how I know taking in extra calories will help when it is time for me to start bulking again. In certain ways pe is similar to bodybuilding. If you can find a way to recover faster you can increase the rate of gains. I will see within the next 2 months.

Today’s workout:

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs

I can see girth gains in my future from the looks of these jelqs. I actually get a pump from wet jelqing. My erection is harder after them than dry jelqs too. Maybe because it is a longer but lighter jelq stroke. Not sure but they are great and definitely increase eq and bloodflow better than dry jelqing did for me.

I forgot to add that I’ve started eating one serving of strawberries everyday. One serving of strawberries (I think there are 3 or 4 extra fruit and vegetables that do the same) give you over 100% of your daily value of vitamin c. Common fruit like bananas, oranges, and others barely give you 1/8th of what your body needs in vitamin c so you would literally have to eat about 8 of those to get 100%. Broccoli gives you 100% too and we all know how important vitamin c is to collagen production. I don’t know if that helps or not but just throwing that out there incase I stop this and see a change for the worst. Taking a supplement to reach your needs is not the same as getting it from your diet. This is ok for some vitamins but vitamin c is not one of them that you want to neglect in the diet.

Today’s routine:

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs

My recovery time has shortened a lot. 20 stretches used to be hard on me but not now. I may go back to increasing by 1 stretch every 4th workout again. Either that way or wait 2 weeks and add 2 stretches. My recovery from gym workouts has also improved greatly. I just did a full leg workout yesterday and today I can barely tell I did legs at all. Definitely the cardio supplement + creatine combo for that. Before creatine I would get DOMS after working legs and it would take 4 to 5 days to fully recover from the soreness. Now there is no soreness and at the same time the intensity of my workouts have increased. I can’t wait to start bulking I know I will make some great muscle gains this year.

This got me thinking since the cardio supplement helps speed my recovery from pe I think anything that increases bloodflow to the penis will have that effect. Cialis or other things although I wouldn’t take that stuff I will stick to my supplements that are without side effects. Like I said before if you can increase the speed of recovery from a workout (applies to gym and pe workouts) you can make faster gains than you normally would without the supplements. It’s not that you NEED the supplement but you will definitely do better with them than if you didn’t take them at all.

Today’s workout:

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs

EQ seemed shot today. Was hard to keep it up for the jelqing and it was staying elongated during the stretching portion. I will take 2 to 3 days off to recover PIs. Hopefully it produce gains like in the past.

I did my normal routine today.

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs

I noticed that after the 2 days off my eq isn’t at its best. I think because I don’t kegel on those 2 days. But after a day that I do my routine the next day it is good again. I will start back doing an actual routine again along with my reverse kegels that I’ve never stopped doing. I always kegel before every jelq reps so I kind of stopped doing a regular kegels routine outside of jelqing.

On Monday when I did my pe I also did my downward stretches sitting down. I usually do them standing up. I pulled at a more downward angle than when I was standing and I think that affected my recovery. Today I did them sultan ding and everything went great and my eq was still good after the workout. I would say sitting down if I do it again I will pull more forward next time. When I did it Monday it was aiming more towards being a btc stretch than down. But I only sat down to do them monday because my back was sore that day.

I’m almost done dieting which will be great because my sex drive is low from eating low calories for so long. Dieting lowers all the good hormones but the good thing is when I start eating maintenance calories again and eat a slight surplus my hormones optimize better than they were before the diet began. So I will finally get to see what kind of gains I will make while eating more food.

I think some of these days my PIs haven’t been their best because I lacked a kegel routine. I was thinking the kegel before my 30 jelqs which is 30 kegels was enough but it obviously wasn’t. That on top of doing reverse kegels slowly made my eq go down. I’ve started my actual kegel routine again and erections are way harder and easier to get. It points more upward now with more force as opposed to having no resistance when I lightly press it down towards the floor with a finger. Now aside from the 30 kegels I do during jelqing, I do 10-10 second holds after pe. I do more reverse kegels to balance it out and prevent tightening the muscle. As I’ve experienced before doing kegels without reverse kegels led to severe premature ejaculation. I would literally get the urge to cum as soon as I put it in the vagina and would have to hold back orgasm. Reverse kegels are just as important when doing kegels. Lack of kegels could explain why I lost the ability to have sex on pe days. I was doing them in the beginning but slowly stopped.

Today’s workout:

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs
10-10 second kegel holds
15-10 second reverse kegels holds

I did the kegel routine in the beginning I just never logged it here but I will just as a reminder for the future. I stopped doing it about 2 months ago thinking that it wasn’t needed but started losing erection strength. I’m torn whether or not to do it most days of the week or just every other day. When I read studies on kegel success they always say the people were instructed to do them everyday but common sense says give the muscle a rest every other day. But for strength in certain cases you can work small muscles everyday as long as the routine is not too heavy. So I guess they both work. Maybe I will try doing it everyday as an experiment. I’m pretty sure I can have sex today even though I did pe. My standing erection strength was strong and I did pe hours ago. Usually EQ would be shot for the rest of the day. No doubt if I wasn’t still eating a calorie deficit the results would be even more dramatic.

Did my normal routine today

20x30 stretches
30 slow wet jelqs
10-10 second kegel holds

Thinking about taking a 5-7 day break. Haven’t gained in a while I think some rest is needed. Also I am thinking about lightening up my routine again to see what happens. Wondering if I have been stretching too much and tiring out my PIs. I get about 2 or 3 good sessions in and after that my PIs slowly go downhill until I take extra rest. Maybe if I lighten up my routine and do 1 on 1 off without a scheduled 2 day break it will do better for my eq. Less stress for it to recover from. But I will see over the next few days.

I’ve been following your progress and your less is more approach has served you well so far. You’re gaining length nicely.

But if your PI’s are declining right now, then it might be time for a one week break, even longer. I took a month off recently due to an injury and came back doing the Newbie Routine and I’ve been gaining steadily ever since. PI’s are great too.

It might be worth a try…