Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

If you’ve been following my PE4F log then you’ll know today was my 6th run with it officially and today I’ve been able to make some notes and gather some trends.

Primarily, that PE4F without warm-up will be largely worthless in my opinion. Each of my sessions I’ve played with different preparation levels and methods. And feedback from my penis has been steady and easily deciphered.

First, edge a good bit. Or do some manual stretches or something to get your penis warmed up. I do NOT mean apply heat first. I mean work the tissues, either with an extended erection or manual manipulation. But don’t do like 10 minutes of jelqing first. It still needs to be light to maybe medium levels of worked. Ease into it.

Second, use a warmed up tube. This is where I deviate hard from the typical PE4F user. Heat is integral to pumping in this medium for me. Additionally, do not use a thickwall tube. Those are very hard to heat well and will screw with your heat distribution. I like to heat the tube a minimum of 10 minutes, maybe 15-20 minutes is better. I think longer is best, just do not heat the tube hot enough to burn your penis. I have done this. Do not do this.

Third, make massaging your CCs a serious endeavor. Myofascial unlocking is a real thing and tenderizing the tissue you want to stretch and subject to vacuum directly is going to only help your cause and make this session more efficient.

Finally, to get the most out of it….use it sparingly at first. I think the idea that many of us have is “push and condition, then grind it in raw time” and this works for most PE methods reasonably well but the pressures you use here, if you grind hard to learn it and get used to it…you’ll be so tough you’ll need insane “Up” times on your pressure durations that it will be difficult to calibrate your routine. I started at 10 minutes, dropped to 5 and then 3 minutes, still within the gains zone. So I’m working up from 3 minutes, currently at 3 minutes and 30 seconds with a heavily heated tube. By the time I hit the 20 minute mark I’ll likely have some gains marked as well.

As for today…I marked several consecutive measurements at 6.25” MSEG. Something I typically only got back when I used to squeeze the base for MSEG measurements. I stopped doin’ that last year around the summer so that I had the functional amount and today, I hit it and hit it several times. No edema, nothing. It says to me I’m playing with the PE4F method just right. So I’m doing it right and I’m going to play it slow, out of functionality as well as caution. Myofascial unlocking is key.

Today has been a great day for my experiment and my goal of 7.25” MEG is still within reach as a result.

WTF? Really? What is your reason for wanting a penis that big?

I discussed this further back in my log, if you read back. Several members also queried about this same thing and I responded, quite detailed at that time. The short of it is the malleable nature of the mind and body require both to remain open for any goals to remain achievable.

However, your reaction is precisely why I don’t discuss it. Even in my progress log.

I speak very little on ADS use as a habit. I’ve been unimpressed with most of them. This one, the Xsleeve, that I have pictures of below, is my favorite. You can purchase this at autoextender.com and look for the XSleeve system, he has several kits if you have never used this system before.

My main issue with it was that it cost me a great deal to keep purchasing sleeves as I wore them out and tore them. However, I felt it was a very good ADS device. I give some of the length of my glans credit to this exact thing. It is easy to wear, easy to walk around in (albeit somewhat embarassing, as you will gain incredible flaccid appearances if you use a weight as opposed to the cable attachments this system also can use) and easy to remove in a pinch.

This device, combined with my horseshoe cockring, created my basic but effective “stayer” system. Shown here, where I will talk more about this in specific: TG’s Stayer Concept

I don’t like the term “stayer” really but it is what is in fashion here to refer to a device or setup used to preserve post workout gains or “temporary gains”. This setup does do that and I used it for exactly that and also sometimes as a standalone, as the ring and Xsleeve can cause mild length and girth expansion over the course of a few hours without any other manipulations.

I liked it a lot but I moved into positions that wouldn’t let me wear it during the day without attracting a lot of attention and I also broke and lost the Horseshoe rings I was using at the time, with the last one being too large for me to use at that time as well.

Fast forward to now, and I can use the last ring that was too big at first (years and years later) and I purchased some improved, next generation sleeves and now have access to my stayer again, which will be great to use post PE4F sessions.

Where do you buy the horseshoe cocking?

http://allknigh t.com/products/ … -cockring.aspxl

Or Hardwear Horseshoe in Google. Another mirror site sells it as well.

They have a few models which one did you get TG? Thanks, makes me want to break out my Xsleeves if I still have them.

Do you prefer the original (slimmer fit), industrial (thicker), or ratchet action?

That looks to be right down my alley as far as ADS go. Also, I’ve often found silicone cock rings to feel like they’re cutting off blood. Maybe I bought too small. That horseshoe looks like it’d be perfect. That’s how I PE sometimes, by just holding my thumb on that dorsal vein. In fact I wish I could get that expansion from a normal erection haha.

Anyways. Looks comfortable. Cool deal.

Basic. I use the oldest, original Pewter models. No plastic, clear or rubber. If they still have the 3 ring set, I bought the smaller 3 that has the 2.25” as the largest and I ditch the closure devices. I ended up with the 2.50” later.

I contoured the largest of any set that I intended to use for base work. You’ll learn what fits you better.

Original. Even though they wear and break, you need original so that if you do get hard, the ring will give and open so that you don’t damage yourself unintentionally. This was my safety feature.

Industrial is NOT what you want.

Ratchet came out right after I was done buying them. And unless you use the bottom closure piece it really is irrelevant as using the ring open has no use for ratchet action.

I’m glad i could help. I found my old 2.50” laying around and it fit, to bring me back to this.

Be aware though, these WILL FALL OFF AND GET LOST. So stay cognizant of them.

I wore the XSleeve with Hardwear horseshoe today.

I went 9oz, soft large sleeve for an hour. Then 18oz (I have this from years ago, not sure monkeybar still offers heavier than 14oz which I think is also adequate for this. My 14oz is long since lost) for an hour in the medium large sleeve. Then, after 3 or 4 hours break (I left the house, did things) came back and wore the 18oz for 2 more hours in medium large sleeve.

I am thinking, post workout, I will probably go with the 9oz and the Soft. On days I don’t work out but want something I’ll go with the Medium with 18oz. But only for a couple hours out of the day, in any case. I don’t like wearing it longer than that, as the glans and shaft get cooler than I would like.

Well, I just bought their newest variant - the “Hardwear Horseshoe - Rope Ring H60.” I added the “contour morph” and “full metal structure.”

It came to $121.85 shipped.

Yes, I just spent $121.85 on a cock ring. Whenever it comes to something that may potentially increase gains, I have a momentary lapse in sanity and click “buy.” Oh well, I work hard and don’t blow money on much else.

I felt crazy too at first. It’s how I’ve spent over $10,000 in 9 years. In PE there is no sure thing. Sometimes you gotta gamble to win and you have to want it enough to get it.

I ran the Horseshoe/Xsleeve silcone sleeve combo for a while today. Spoke on it earlier, visual demonstration here: Anti Turtling Experiment- Uncensored

Had it on almost 8 hours in fact. It worked exactly as I had hoped. I recorded 6.25” flaccid length right before I took it off. So I think this may be the path I take for ADS after my PE4F cycles. Not sure if the weight is needed and the bulge I create with the sleeve is…nominal, within my normal range, so not obscene or anymore so than usual. My penis was cool to touch but easily regained temperature and erection. Overall, maybe a touch long to wear it but safe.