Originally Posted by bowie knife
They advocate no masturbation. I don’t think I’ll be able to do this for an extended period of time. Some men here it seems use a fleshlight as a tool for gratification. Would this be considered cheating or is it acceptable. I’ve been thinking about getting one.
I am not giving up masturbation. NO WAY, not going to happen.
As I wrote earlier, I get crazy if I don’t have an orgasm. Time period seems to be about seven days. Some of those guys on that site are a LOT younger than me, so if they go without masturbating, nature will take care of it with a wet dream. I am too old to have wet dreams. It is what it is.
However, I am only masturbating when I need to (as opposed to out of boredom for example).
There are some pretty extreme positions on that site regarding reboot, but somewhere in the FAQ the site owner says masturbate if you need to. So I am.
Some say you can’t have real sex either during reboot. Site owner says make your own judgement on that. The point is to re-wire your brain away from images and back into real sex. So site owner thinks real intimacy can help that along.
There is also some controversy over fantasy while masturbating. Some say no fantasy allowed, it is as bad as porn. My interpretation is fantasy can be as bad as porn only if you are fantasizing about Porn. If you are fantasizing about the last Phoenix Marie clip you saw, that is bad as watching the actual Phoenix Marie clip.
Or if you are fantasizing about a real person, but the fantasy is a recreation of porn conventions then that is as bad as porn.
However to me recreating past hot sexual experiences with my wife is reality based. Nothing pornographic at all.
That being said, the guys here talked me into backing off on fantasy and instead just focusing on the SENSATIONS my body is feeling. I am actually enjoying that.
Now, some guys may need the more extreme approaches, which is "no porn, no masturbation, no orgasm."
I think that may be right for them. It isn’t right for everybody.
The impression I get is those who need the extreme approaches probably have minimal experience with real women and real sex. Their entire sexual lives are totally shaped and dependent on porn.
When I did my first unsuccessful detox, I masturbated and I fantasized and I did really well on the detox. I think I lasted about 2 months.
My mistake was
- thinking I could go back to casual use.
- feeling really sorry for myself because of other things going on in my life, and thinking that things were so shitty that I "deserved porn"
It wasn’t that I was masturbating or fantasizing about real sex when I masturbated.
As to the fleshlight question, I say go for it. I think it helps you retrain you penis to respond to more subtle stimulation than we get from hand masturbation. For me it is helpful too because I could never use a fleshlight and watch porn at the same time. Too much stimulation.
Also in my experience, the fleshlight orgasms are much closer to real sex orgasms than hand masturbation. Ball drainers, knee tremblers. I suppose there could be a problem where you replaced a "porn addiction" with a "fleshlight addiction" but I haven’t had that experience. Because as good as the orgasms are with the fleshlight, they can never truly match real sex orgasms with a partner.
Just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary
P.S. if you decide to get a fleshlight, google "fleshlight coupons". They usually have an active 15 to 20%-er out there.
Don’t go to the fleshlight home page (naked women) , here is the build your own page:
http://www.fles … build-your-own/
I recommend WONDERWAVE as the most realistic texture. Whatever you do, don’t buy the Original or Supertight smooth textures, they SUCK (and not in a good way, but in a blah way). I also have super ribbed, that is too extreme and does not feel realistic at all. Have speed bump as well, fun but again not realistic.