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Hello all, long time lurker.

I have read that jelqing against the dorsal vein is bad and that more pressure should be placed on the sides of the shaft rather than on the top/bottom. This is fine except for what I have read about fixing curves. If I have a downward curve and want to fix it is, it alright to jelq SD while bending my wrist upward to fight it (with low erection level), or are flaccid V-stretches at the bend the safest/best way to fix the curve?

Originally Posted by Mr future huge
Hello all, long time lurker.

I have read that jelqing against the dorsal vein is bad and that more pressure should be placed on the sides of the shaft rather than on the top/bottom. This is fine except for what I have read about fixing curves. If I have a downward curve and want to fix it is, it alright to jelq SD while bending my wrist upward to fight it (with low erection level), or are flaccid V-stretches at the bend the safest/best way to fix the curve?

It’s more about the dorsal nerve than the dorsal vein. Be especially careful just behind the glans. You can still bend your penis upward without excessive pressure on the top of the shaft; just pull up with your fingers more than pushing down with the web of your hand. Start off with a few fairly gentle jelqs, and if you feel they are not causing any problems, increase slowly.


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Second that. You don’t want to injure the dorsal nerve. Trust me, I’ve been there. It’s bad.


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Originally Posted by firegoat
It’s more about the dorsal nerve than the dorsal vein. Be especially careful just behind the glans. You can still bend your penis upward without excessive pressure on the top of the shaft; just pull up with your fingers more than pushing down with the web of your hand. Start off with a few fairly gentle jelqs, and if you feel they are not causing any problems, increase slowly.

If I am understanding correctly as I jelq and move my hand towards the glans, using the sides of the shaft for grip and index fingers underneath as they wrap around start bending upward while avoiding using my thumb/webbing as a fulcrum?

Thinking of how this is preformed and how you explained it got me thinking maybe the way I jelq isn’t optimal. I use my index finger as the main means of pressure for the sides rather than squeezing with my thumb and index finger, thoughts? Maybe it doesn’t even matter as long as blood is being pushed forward and I am just over thinking it.

I’ll refer to jelq videos and technique threads for a refresher as now I am a little skeptical of my methods regardless of gains. Thank you for your response and food for thought.

Go by feel rather than over-thinking it. If it feels right, it probably is.


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

If you see the glands expanding and feeling harder at the end of every jelq, you are doing it right. Clear enough?


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by firegoat
It’s more about the dorsal nerve than the dorsal vein. Be especially careful just behind the glans. You can still bend your penis upward without excessive pressure on the top of the shaft; just pull up with your fingers more than pushing down with the web of your hand. Start off with a few fairly gentle jelqs, and if you feel they are not causing any problems, increase slowly.

I have a question that follows the previous one.it’s about the reason behind the length increase. I apply the Y jelq. I read some posts and topics about the feasible physiologic and anatomic changes from the CC and tunica albuginea. But for a symmetrical increase the corpus spongiosum (CS) also needs to increase in length wright.(for not creating a bend downwards)?
So my question is how the CS supposedly increases in length with only pressure applied on the CC with the Y grip. I could not find a direct answer with the search function.. But this question is probably already answered in an other thread.. So a link would also be great.

Hope that someone can answer my question. Cheers!


Start stats: 6.75" BPEL; 5.0" EG (MEG) //// First goals: 7.15" BPEL and 5.2" EG (MEG) //// Second goal(s): 7,5" BPEL (for the end of 2016.) //// Final goal: 7,5" NBPEL 5,7" MEG

Originally Posted by George675
I have a question that follows the previous one.it’s about the reason behind the length increase. I apply the Y jelq. I read some posts and topics about the feasible physiologic and anatomic changes from the CC and tunica albuginea. But for a symmetrical increase the corpus spongiosum (CS) also needs to increase in length wright.(for not creating a bend downwards)?
So my question is how the CS supposedly increases in length with only pressure applied on the CC with the Y grip. I could not find a direct answer with the search function.. But this question is probably already answered in an other thread.. So a link would also be great.

Hope that someone can answer my question. Cheers!

Jelqing places both longitudinal and circumferential stretch on the tunica, which has layers with fibres orientated to resist stretch in one or other of those directions. It is primarily the tunica and septum we are trying to stretch to increase penis size. Whatever type of jelq you use the tissues are caused to expand and lengthen. In a jelq that only creates pressure on the sides of the penis, the penis is still stretched lengthways by the jelq, so the CS is still stretched longitudinally too.


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

I’m kinda embarrassed to say this, but it’s better than getting hurt later.

Basically, I masturbate like a monkey. Like, 5 times a day, 8 on weekends. Most of it is out of habit(when I don’t have anything else to do I just shake my dick until it gets kinda hard and start from there).

Should I stop masturbating before starting with PE to let my penis recover a little? Is there even a way to do that?

You should stop masturbating that much independently from PE. Find another hobby.

Originally Posted by marinera
You should stop masturbating that much independently from PE. Find another hobby.

I masturbate a lot as well and it’ll mess your PE up trust me, getting better with not as much but if you want to effectively do PE you need to heavily reduce masturbation.


Starting 4/15/15 7.3 BPEL and 4.9 MEG

Super lazy and inconsistent :(

Originally Posted by Mr future huge
Hello all, long time lurker.

I have read that jelqing against the dorsal vein is bad and that more pressure should be placed on the sides of the shaft rather than on the top/bottom. This is fine except for what I have read about fixing curves. If I have a downward curve and want to fix it is, it alright to jelq SD while bending my wrist upward to fight it (with low erection level), or are flaccid V-stretches at the bend the safest/best way to fix the curve?


I too am working on straightening my cock from a downward curve. This is what I’m doing at the moment. It’s basically the newbie routine with emphasis on against the curve. 5 minute hot wrap, then a few stretches, not too aggresive and held for about 5 seconds, straight out, left, right and up, not down, I don’t want to stretch the topside of my penis(this may not happen but I omit this stretch). About 3 sets just to loosen it up. This is my main stretch, I’ll call it the elbow stretch, I grabbed this item from my garage, a 50mm PVC elbow at 90 degrees, I place it with open ends facing the ground sitting just above my cock, then I grab my head and pull it up and over onto the elbow. There are a couple grips I use, one is I place my thumbs together, fingernails touching with pads of thumbs placed on the frenulum, light pressure, the pipe grips the penis really well so not much pressure is needed on the frenulum, the rest of the fingers go inside the elbow. Now start turning the elbow up, just a little movement down or up to get it seated right at base of penis. Be careful with this, go softly, you could tear your dick off with the amount of leverage you can get out of the elbow. At the moment I hold for about 20 sec on this stretch, release, a little stretch left, right, out, up and little rub, then onto another elbow stretch. About 4 of these I do and then I move onto jelqing. Jelqing out and up with an upward curve trying to end up with penis eye looking at my belly button. End with a hot rap and that’s my routine at the moment. I have only been doing this for about a week so if I get positive results I will make sure I share the news.

And just to clarify mr future big, when I jelq upward curve, more pressure is applied to the sides, not so much to the top and bottom, if you are too erect you will struggle to do an upward arc. Also when I release upper grip I hold the head slightly to assist in the shape whilst lower hand is coming up.

Originally Posted by pnovec
Basically, I masturbate like a monkey. Like, 5 times a day, 8 on weekends. Most of it is out of habit(when I don’t have anything else to do I just shake my dick until it gets kinda hard and start from there).
Should I stop masturbating before starting with PE to let my penis recover a little? Is there even a way to do that?

You don’t have anything else to do??
Read some books!
Go out and workout the rest of your body! Women like good bodies not just a good dick!

I did not jerk that much even when I was 15!.

Man really! Put some quality in your life!

And again READ A BOOK!

Originally Posted by firegoat
Jelqing places both longitudinal and circumferential stretch on the tunica, which has layers with fibres orientated to resist stretch in one or other of those directions. It is primarily the tunica and septum we are trying to stretch to increase penis size. Whatever type of jelq you use the tissues are caused to expand and lengthen. In a jelq that only creates pressure on the sides of the penis, the penis is still stretched lengthways by the jelq, so the CS is still stretched longitudinally too.

Hello Firegoat,

Thanks for your clarifying reply! Have a good day.

George.


Start stats: 6.75" BPEL; 5.0" EG (MEG) //// First goals: 7.15" BPEL and 5.2" EG (MEG) //// Second goal(s): 7,5" BPEL (for the end of 2016.) //// Final goal: 7,5" NBPEL 5,7" MEG

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