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Originally Posted by hangster
This wouldn’t be in response to “pe gave me irreversible ED” would it? I have stopped all forms of PE, know one knows the long term effects of these exercises. If you stop all gains are lost. Most men do not need pe at all it mostly psychological. I would rather be sure my dick will work until I die than have a slightly larger penis and have to do these exercises for hours a day. I think this should be a wake-up call for all of us. I will opt for weight loss, good nutrition, exercise and supplements to ensure continual good sex life.

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As long as I know. It just seems to be not worth the risk, now that we know bad things can happen. Maybe more can be learned in the future.

It could also be that this would lead to a reconsideration of the relative degree of risk of various PE exercises.

For example, I would think that simple stretching would be less likely to cause problems with venous valves than an ‘overpressure’ exercise such as jelqing or clamping.

My guess would be that pumping would also be less likely to cause venous valve injury, as it is not an ‘overpressure’ exercise, but that is strictly a guess.

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Originally Posted by hangster
As long as I know. It just seems to be not worth the risk, now that we know bad things can happen. Maybe more can be learned in the future.

Life is about balancing risk and reward, and the more information we have in making that decision for ourselves, the better.

I can eat seafood just fine, as can millions of others. Very good things can happen from eating seafood; it can be very tasty, and it can be heart-healthy. There is a small percentage of people who are allergic, and perhaps have a life-threatening reaction.

Should I and the millions who are just fine with seafood give it up?

Originally Posted by hangster
I will opt for weight loss, good nutrition, exercise and supplements to ensure continual good sex life.


Oh, and those supplements you take, hangster? There’s not a whole lot of regulation or research on those. In fact, when there has been some research, some have been shown to be harmful. Heard about beta carotene increasing the risk of cancerous polyps or lung cancer?

http://www.canc er.org/docroot/ … s_Eff ects.asp

How about the l-tryptophan toxicity incident?

http://www.nems n.org/Articles/ … han%20Fagan.htm

The ideas about what constitutes ‘good nutrition’ vary, and certainly have varied over time.

People drop dead suddenly during exercise.

Now, with all that said, I am not against weight loss, good nutrition, exercise, supplements, seafood… or PE. Just be aware of the risks you’re taking, and be an informed decision-maker.

For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Last edited by Lampwick : 11-11-2009 at .

Originally Posted by Tweaking

I can’t think of anyway of testing yourself to see if your susceptible to this kind of injury, either, other than unbelievably light jelqing for several months and gradually building up to a normal pressure, but then you’d never know and one set of clamping would probably cause it straight away.

Very interesting.

I can’t even hand clamp. If I do so, after about 30 secs, I get a pain in (what feels like) one of the blood vessels in my glans. As long as I don’t clamp, I’m OK.

But… I have a special version of girth exercise that is a cross between a Slinky and an O-bend. I do this with a rubber-like semi-erection. This exercise produces unbelievable pressure. When I first did it, I got the same pain as mentioned above. So now, I always do this exercise with a tight grip round my glans so that it can’t expand. I put my whole glans in my fist, and keep the grip pressure high, so that the pressure in the shaft can’t expand my glans. I never get pain as long as I do this.

Yes, we need to tread carefully. Some guys can abuse the shit out of their dicks all day long. I only need 90 jelqs 3 times a week. Any more and my EQ goes down.

Good work Sparkyx.

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Any of the girth excersizes are way too easy to go overboard on.whatever you’re doing you shouldn’t experience discoloration, that is the first sign that you’re doing too much.then comes lower EQ, then pain.I swear evryone on this site is overworking and seeing slow or no gains

Originally Posted by marky777

Very interesting.

I can’t even hand clamp. If I do so, after about 30 secs, I get a pain in (what feels like) one of the blood vessels in my glans. As long as I don’t clamp, I’m OK.

But… I have a special version of girth exercise that is a cross between a Slinky and an O-bend. I do this with a rubber-like semi-erection. This exercise produces unbelievable pressure. When I first did it, I got the same pain as mentioned above. So now, I always do this exercise with a tight grip round my glans so that it can’t expand. I put my whole glans in my fist, and keep the grip pressure high, so that the pressure in the shaft can’t expand my glans. I never get pain as long as I do this.

Yes, we need to tread carefully. Some guys can abuse the shit out of their dicks all day long. I only need 90 jelqs 3 times a week. Any more and my EQ goes down.

Good work Sparkyx.

One of the long-time guidelines here has been that PE shouldn’t hurt. A little soreness or tenderness is one thing but pain is different. A Slinky/O-bend type of exercise is another one of the overpressure exercises that seems likely to be relatively higher risk.

For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Life is about balancing risk and reward, and the more information we have in making that decision for ourselves, the better.

I can eat seafood just fine, as can millions of others. Very good things can happen from eating seafood; it can be very tasty, and it can be heart-healthy. There is a small percentage of people who are allergic, and perhaps have a life-threatening reaction.

Should I and the millions who are just fine with seafood give it up?


This is EXACTLY where we find ourselves with this issue. I think for the vast majority of us, it is completely safe if we follow sensible guidelines.

HOWEVER, its evident at this point that this syndrome is real for a percentage of men, and you should understand this BEFORE you begin.

Happiness begins where selfishness ends!

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Originally Posted by Lampwick
It could also be that this would lead to a reconsideration of the relative degree of risk of various PE exercises.

For example, I would think that simple stretching would be less likely to cause problems with venous valves than an ‘overpressure’ exercise such as jelqing or clamping.

My guess would be that pumping would also be less likely to cause venous valve injury, as it is not an ‘overpressure’ exercise, but that is strictly a guess.

I agree with this. Further, probably hanging without any erection at all probably puts very little or no stress on these valves.

HOWEVER, this is just my GUESS and there is no proof of it being correct.

Happiness begins where selfishness ends!

Physiologic Indicators for Growth (PI's) Force Thresholds

Erectile Quality Thread (EQ) Is Less,More?

Has it happen to any vets or someone that has done PE for 6 months or more? Or if it’s just the few unlucky ones that cope it within the first month or so?. This is really scary.

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