Originally Posted by Renholder
I share your experiences, ngt2000.Anyone else had EQ issues with clamping and found out what’s causing them? For me, it doesn’t even seem to be related to volume or intensity as I tend to start very carefully. My penis just don’t seem to respond very well to clamping. First sessions are typically great. Even good EQ. But not too long after, EQ starts going downwards.
I seem to recall a banned member who had similar issues and needed a long time to recover. I also know he went back to clamping and didn’t seem to have any issues the second time around.
No issues with jelqing or pumping.
Currently only jelqing after a long break, but I think I might need something more to reach my girth goals.
Hey Renholder,
(Sorry if this is long, i just like to be as detailed as possible)
Before I jump into details, I will say that during this recent period, I don’t seem to get randomly sexually excited (which I naturally do), which must be the result of the over training. However, a couple of days ago I watched pornography (I don’t very often, the exception having been when I was clamping), and, surprisingly, I achieved an erection level 9 or 10 (though at a size that indicates I lost that 1/8 inch of girth gain, again). Getting that high erection, I noticed, led to an increase in my “inner firmness” even after I’d gone flaccid. This was encouraging to me, so I did it again (watched pornography) again the next day, got a high level erection, and that seems to have improved my mushy flaccid hang quite a bit already. So try that, Renholder, because it seems that getting to high level erections is “waking” me up.
I attempted clamping several years ago, and had no EQ issues, but I stopped after perhaps just several weeks - only a few days each week - of doing it, because I found the discoloration I was getting to be unacceptable. At the time I jumped right into full 10 minute sets. Fast forward several years, and I’ve made no significant girth gains (I only care about girth). Well, perhaps 1/8 inch, but it never cemented.
The last year is particularly frustrating due to my never slacking off: January - May 2016 I was religiously doing several hundred jelqs per day, almost everyday; May - October I was religiously doing one full set of O-bends just about everyday…for each time period I would occasionally throw in some Ferrari Head squeezes or Uli’s. It is important to note that the Jelqing and O-bends alone never seemed to create a state of over training (my EQ remained high, and has always been high, naturally), but the Head Squeezes or Uli’s could create fatigue that could affect EQ short term.
For example, back in October, on a Tuesday, I did a full set of O-bends and followed up with 2 or 3 aggressive Head Squeezes. The following day, I had an unexpected sexual encounter, and my EQ was not where I would have wanted it to be (I still was able to have sex, but I was only at a 6 or 7. I did no PE Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, and on Friday evening I met up with the girl again, where my EQ had returned to 9 or 10.
I thought about that, decided to take a week off (figuring I could use it) and decided (according to Sparkyx’s principle of restarting cautiously) to do just 50 jelq’s per day, but do them very strictly and with significant force similar to an Uli. This approach did seemed to create some fatigue, but I was not making gains by mid December.
It is important to note that all of the above Jelqing and O-bending never created much in the way of temporary post PE expansion, neither did the Uli’s (the Uli’s perhaps just a bit, but it would subside within minutes).
Then, upon surfing the forum, I ran into and was reminded of tntjockey’s clamping thread (it was a brief PM exchange with him that convinced me to stop clamping several years ago, only as it regarded discoloration). I decided to give clamping another try, because as I remembered, that did give me some post PE expansion.
In an effort to filter down the effect of discoloration, I decided to begin with a modest clamping regimen of 3 sets @ 3 minutes each @ 4 clicks, to be adjusted as I saw fit. I will say this approach has led to the discoloration setting in much more modestly than it did for me several years ago when I started more aggressively.
Anyway, I started to increase a bit, until I hit that 6 minutes per set mark for 4 sets, and some of these sets were at 5 clicks. A few things to note: I was getting the best expansion I have ever gotten (about 1/6 of an inch mid shaft, 1/4 at the base) which would subside after 30 - 60 minutes; at first, I was remaining very hard after finishing the workout, I would edge for a while, staying disciplined as far as not ejaculating post PE; even after my expansion would subside, my flaccid hang was just better; and my ejaculations were even more impressive. All these good signs probably created in me a bit of over zealousness.
I believe the mistakes I made were: first - increasing time too fast, i’m not yet sure ifgoing up a click was a mistake; and second - not working in regular rest days. Having not really needed rest days in the past (minus having done heavy Uli or Head squeezes), I wasn’t mentally conditioned to make use of them. (also, several years ago, I made some length gains by hanging, with the principle of doing so everyday, so I probably applied that principle to the clamping this time around) So I plan on getting back to clamping, on a MWF schedule, starting again modestly 3 sets @ 3 minutes @ 4 clicks, and being disciplined as far as not increasing too fast.