Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

Too much work, and it would be hard to make it work. If you want the same effect but much cheaper, do partial erect bends. Erection at about 50-80%, then pull, bend, twist etc. It will have the same effect.

Standard warning, erect bends are dangerous.

Just remember, erect bends can produce very high internal pressures, so its not recommended for anyone with less than 6 months conditioning.

Actually, at about 50% erection, fairly safe. The higher the erection level, the greater the risk.

I think it would be foolish to even try…to difficult and it can be done better with a clamp.

There have been guys that have gotten great results with clamped manipulations (TNA ?). Pulling, bending and twisting. Of course this can be very dangerous, so its only for very experienced PE’ers.

From this thread I think I would recommend low level clamping when trying this.

I should dig that name up and ask him about it. The great thing about his story is that he had his wife do all the pulling and bending, man, that guy knows how to have a good time. (Dude, jump in here if you read this.)

They would PE together, she would help measure him, then they would go for a walk afterward. That’s MY idea of how to spend the morning (I think she would have him use it on her afterward, but that may be a figment of my perverted imagination! :) )

‘sparkyx’.

My idea was more of being able to “stretch” the unit while in a vacuum tube.

Did not consider twisting, bending, etc, but all those would be possibilities.

So using the term, compliance. I believe that stress on the tunica over time increases the compliance at high pressures

This can disproved by demonstration very easily. Even if you think a portion of the increase is fluid, the increase is substantial, not “very very small”.

I would say follow your shot. If it is working do not stop. I am the one that says everything works, but I agree some can better than others. I do not fault you for not trying clamping or pumping, only disagree with you about the expansion. As far as varying per individual, I agree 100%, but many have experienced the same expansion.

I with you here.

Now that’s what I call quality time that helps to cement a relationship (and PE gains as well). :)

I tried this buy gluing together several with every other clamp ratchet removed. It was very uncomfortable and I did not continue.

I think a better way to say it is that our goal over the long term is to reach the point of lowest tunica compliance (stiffest, less pliable) at an ever longer stretch length both longitudinal (length) and circumferential (girth). That is the crux of PE directed at the tunica.

I’m saying tunica radius at peak erection, not overall penis. This is our goal anyway. The edema will be removed quickly.

In LaPlace”s law, one of the factors is wall thickness (in this case the tunica thickness). Tension is inversely related to wall thickness, that is when the tunica thins with stretch tension increases. This thinning at peak erection is small and I will grant you that with this small thinning and a small increase in radius that the tension will rise. Does it cause tension-induced connective tissue remodeling at a longer collagen fiber length and/or diameter? How much? You’ll have to answer that. The degree of lengthening over strengthening may be the factor of variability that everyone is presenting

I believe you can obtain greater tensions if you start to pump at lower levels of erection and bring the penis up to an “artificially” high radius. What I am trying to say that by causing a pressure gradient across the tunica with negative pressure, you will be drawing more blood into the penis and increasing the radius. As the tunica starts to become stiff (because of compliance) and the external pressure effects becomes less, the pressure in the hardening penis will rise as well at a higher radius than if you had started to pump at peak erection. This is the concept I’m trying to get across.

Am I making sense, or am I just full of it?

I am glad we are in agreement. :)

Actually I was kidding, I am much worse at times and with your technical knowledge, you have been very patient.

The reason why drugs act differently in different individuals results at least to a substantial parts from genetics (more precisely: single nucleotide polymorphisms). On that basis one can define hyperfast, fast, normal and slow metabolizers. At the same dose, fast, and more so hyperfast experience little or no effect, while slow metabolizers may exhibit severe side effects.

(Just for the records).

Certainly, genetics also influence pe-success, and - on a more differentiated basis - may explain why one individual benefits more or less from a given exercise.

Extreme examples in whom pe should work wonders should be people with diseases like EHLERS-DANLOS MARFAN-syndrome.

I think it has potential, but really, its hard enough to keep a good seal now, start adding mechanisms and it would make it very susceptible to leakage.

Like I said, try partial erect pulls or higher erection pulls (again, higher the erection level, the greater the chance of injury), it should accomplish the same thing.

Interesting concept…hmmmm. :-k

Pumpers generally believe its best to go in hard, but what your saying sound plausible, I’m gonna try it, thanks!

I’m not buying it.

The cable clamp is too big, it won’t fit in most size tubes.

You would have to use some other kind of clamp, a very tight elastic cock ring has been used by others.

CAUTION, of course.