Mem's Momentous Rapid Gain Mechanism

1. Probably behind the pot or over the pot to each side of your dick.

2. Hold your hand straight out in front of you with a straight arm, fist. Turn your fist so that the thumb side is directly down toward the floor, lower the straight arm to your crotch. The gives you the kind of position I think. This stretch is all about using the power of the body for the stretch, especially the shoulder, the abs. Your trunk will be twisted, in all likelihood. You can lean backwards and forwards and twist the shoulder and move it down to alter the stretch. Try doing a crunch on one side to see the movement you might get.

In the end I guess it’s a matter of experimentation. It should be a fairly comfortable to hold thing because the muscles used are so powerful. If you have/can find a better way of stretching, do that. At best this thing should be a template you modify to your needs.

Antistar,

Have you tried adding a stretching session after the girth routine? I don’t mean a few JAIs and forget about it but nor do I mean a full 20 minute session.

I had one removed and it was (relatively) painless. It is the psychological aspect that you need to come to terms with. If it is for healthy reasons - you have to do it squire. All the best.

Thanks Mem, that was a good read and good motivation. I am considering incorporating this in to my daily routine gradually… Over the course of the next ten days… BUt I have to know what would be a good replacement for the can of which you speak.

No, but I’d like to hear your reasoning on this.

My attempt at implementing my ideas from before didn’t work out so hot today and I ended up at square one. I thought about this situation a bit these past few days and I think the culprit is the Horses. I have pretty poor circulation and the glans end of my penis has always been weaker than the base end of it. The extra push during horses that forces the blood out of the glans is extra stress that it can’t seem to take no matter how much glans-specific work I throw at it to counter the effect of the Horses.

For my next trick I’ll be taking a week off and dropping the Horses entirely when I return.

So, I’ve started this routine today with the inverted v-stretch and I was wondering a few things…

The earliest I can start this routine on a weekday is about 3:30 because I like to heat water on the stove for my warm wrap. It gets me nice and stretchy, however at this point my libido begins to disagree with me and I go back and forth between varying stages of arousal…

And would it work to replace the Horse440’s with that modified sad-sak but doing it in reverse direction instead? I’m uncomfortable doing that workout still because I’m a bit on the beginning side in terms of control over grip and pressure.
Also I want to know if that will somehow reduce the effectiveness of this routine.

I’m planning to start doing this routine, but I have a question:

Will I lose my upward curve because of the inverted V-stretch?

Your dick will just have to get used to the feeling of being handled all the time. In time, you’ll get used to it.

As far as the horses go this is NOT a beginner’s routine by any stretch of the imagination. I read some of your other posts and see that you’ve only been on the newbie routine for less than a month. This is too much too soon and you’re likely to hurt yourself or at the very least overtrain.

I’ve been jelqing much longer than just a month… I have in the past done the newbie routine, including that I actually started in early December, and I had been Jelqing for two months starting around August last year. So I had been doing a lot of stop/start because the newbie routine has not been working for me.

I want to see gains, which I have not once seen in the many times I’ve tried to commit to a jelqing routine, which led to me giving up…. I stick to it a between two or three months and then get dismayed and give up…

Also, the newbie routine was just makin my erections a little harder, and again, it’s actually been 2 months for me on a jelqing routine with, again no size results. And at the end of a workout I don’t even feel much change. I am beginning to wonder if my being 18 has any influence.

I don’t want to go back to the newbie routine as it is and would probably end up altering it a good deal…

Hi guys,

I have two questions about the horse squeezes:

- Do you perform them with an 100% erection level or just with the erection level that you’ve jelqing with?

- Are you guys just squeeze at the base or also at the end of the shaft behind the glans? (I’ve read that some guys only squeeze at the base)

Thanks a lot!

If you can’t gain on the newbie routine, it’s probably worth revisiting the fundamentals and correcting the problems rather than going for a routine like this, imo. Consistency is one of the fundamentals.

>And would it work to replace the Horse440’s with that modified sad-sak but doing it in reverse direction instead?<

What squeezing from the top down?

nick,

You need to be under 100% erect or the grips will not work.

Without the grip at the glans it might be considered a ULI #3, rather than a horse. The Uli #3 is probably a safer introduction to squeezes.

Anti,

The reasoning for stretches after a girth routine is that you’ve done the tenderising, so stretching should be easier. It’s an option.

Thanks mem!

With the horse squeeze, are you supposed to make a sort of jelq movement from the top of the glans to the underside of it and then hold it there?

Last question: how long do you hold the The Sadsak mod? I did it yesterday and it gives me a tremendous pump!Think it’s a great way to end the routine…

Nick

What do you mean revisit the fundamentals? I’m certain I’m doing everything right, I just can’t seem to make size gains. I also do the warm wrap sometimes up to three times longer than recommended.

And yes I do mean squeeze from the top down, kind of like to force the blood to the base of the shaft, because I’ve always seemed to have this opinion that jelqs would thicken the shaft more as you reach the tip and leave the base relatively unaltered… My personal answer to this I figured might be to do the sadsak in reverse maybe while holding a kegal or something like that…

nick_84,

>With the horse squeeze, are you supposed to make a sort of jelq movement from the top of the glans to the underside of it and then hold it there?<

Originally Horse440 described it this way:

Personally, I found squeezing the glans with a fist more effective.

>Last question: how long do you hold the The Sadsak mod? I did it yesterday and it gives me a tremendous pump!Think it’s a great way to end the routine…<

30 seconds. More. Depends on whether you are finding it effective to hold for longer. I guess if you find that you are getting a fade or lessening in pressure as you expand, then it’s worth letting go and trying again. I think it’s always worth figuring out where the (highly variable) sweet spot is with everything and working to that.

Razzle Dazzle,

>What do you mean revisit the fundamentals? I’m certain I’m doing everything right, I just can’t seem to make size gains. I also do the warm wrap sometimes up to three times longer than recommended.<

Why do you warm wrap for a long time? Does it help, do you think?

What I mean is that jelqing itself is an extremely complex task, and it’s very easy to spend one’s time masturbating and calling it jelqing or having one useful stroke in thirty - no matter how long you’ve been doing it.

>And yes I do mean squeeze from the top down, kind of like to force the blood to the base of the shaft, because I’ve always seemed to have this opinion that jelqs would thicken the shaft more as you reach the tip and leave the base relatively unaltered… My personal answer to this I figured might be to do the sadsak in reverse maybe while holding a kegel or something like that…<

I don’t see the point. You could hold a kegel really hard but you’ll still push blood down the shaft with no effective trapping mechanism. Also if you are forcing blood through constricted veins at the base of the penis, I doubt that would be positive for erectile function. If you are looking for something like that, then the Horse would be an obvious contender and you could also consider BTB jelqing.

If you find that jelqing is creating a baseball bat shape, the most obvious reason is jelqing with too low an erection. The pressure of a jelq should not increase as the stroke progresses. The grip needs to be matched to the erection and stroke speed to avoid this.

Also long hold stretches should increase base girth, as it does with hangers (the most obvious parallel technique).

Then I guess I’ll make sure I’m doing the jelqs right again but I’m almost certain I’ve done them right the whole time.

Ok this may have been covered in this thread already but as I was reading along and realizing how taxing this can be on the hands I had a thought. What if we did an aided v strech and for arguement sake use a 1” or so dowel and rather than pull on it with your hands make a mini wench and use about 5lbs. Can anyone picture this as well? Dowel accross the thighs, cock over it, mini wench at the end with some weight. Sort of a modified hanging method? Would that produce enough force? Just thinking outloud I suppose, havent tried it yet.