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It’s well known that you should target length before going for girth

Can someone explain why this is so?

The larger the girth, the greater resistance which must be overcome in order to increase length. That is the reason it is often suggested that one consider prioritizing length gains initially.

You can program your training any way you like based on your desires, but just remember that your penis will gain length with more difficulty after substantial girth gains — it’s physics.

Jelqing is the basis of manual PE. Anyone who’s spent any time at all on this forum should know what jelqing is, even if they haven’t tried it. The basic jelq is very simple—deceptively simple. Grasp the penis in an OK grip at the base and “milk” the shaft by stroking with a firm grip up toward the glans to move blood around and stretch/expand the penis. At the end of the stroke, grasp the base with the other hand and repeat.

But how hard do you grip? How erect should you be? What does a good jelq feel like? How do you know when you’ve jelqed enough vs. Too much? How and why does the function of the jelq change at different erection levels? Wet jelqs vs. Dry jelqs?

I would like to hear from experienced jelqers on this subject. I’d also like to hear about variations on the basic jelq, what has worked and what hasn’t.

Here are some of my experiences and observations:

Most guys seem to be interested in gaining some length as a top priority. It’s well known that you should target length before going for girth. In my experience, it is true that it can be harder to gain length the more girth you have. So target girth only after getting close to you length goals. (There is a good chance you’ll get some extra girth by doing length-focused exercises anyway.)

“Flaccid” Jelqing, or “the Jelq Stretch”

As far as jelqing for length, my feeling is that most guys are jelqing at an erection level that is too high. What I’m about to say flies in the face of received wisdom. Most instructions for jelqing say 40-50% is the minimum erection level one should jelq at. The videos also show jelqing at 50-70% erection level. I consider this erect jelqing. For me, this jelq is only useful for maintenance. The unit is too hard (rigid) to target length, and not hard enough to really target girth adequately. It is possible that this is only applicable to guys with thicker girth (say 5+), but it is certainly true for me.

The reason it is generally advised not to jelq below 40% e level is the dreaded “baseball bat effect.” This is not an issue for me, since my unit is shaped like a missile and it would take an inch in girth for my upper shaft and glans to match my mid shaft girth. Also, I have seen no evidence of someone who’s got the baseball bat effect from jelqing, and even it is true, I would imagine that targeted girth work like clamping could even out the unit. Also, the way I do it, the pressure of the grip is adjusted throughout the stroke so that there is never enough pressure on the glans and upper shaft to qualify as a girth exercise.

For length, I jelq straight down (SD) at an erection no higher than 20-30%. There should be no rigidity in the unit whatsoever—basically what you want is a “softie”—a unit that looks like a good flaccid hang, but not semi-erect. I do wet jelqs. I use an overhand OK grip, grasp firmly at the base and pull SD. At the beginning of the stroke, there is a strong pull on the ligs/base. About halfway down, the blood in the unit will be expanding the upper shaft and glans. The grip is adjusted so there’s not too much pressure as the stroke is completed and a little back flow is allowed as the opposite hand forms an OK grip at the base for the next stroke.

At the end of the stroke, I stop just behind the glans and hold a stretch in this position, then turn my hand out so that the glans is forming the foot of an L before releasing for the next stroke. Strokes are slow, between five and ten seconds.

How it feels:

Behind the stroke, the tunica and ligs feel like they are being stretched. (I get occasional lig pops doing this.) After the midstroke point, the lower shaft and ligs continue to be stretched while the upper shaft and glans feel mildly expanded. I have to be careful to allow enough back flow that the glans is not too expanded for the final stretch/tug at the end and the grip can be firm enough to really get a good stretch.

I will often pause at various stages of the stroke (1/4 up, 1/2 up, and 3/4 up) and kegel for ten seconds then release and continue. I bend the unit into an L shape as described above and focus on the stretch. When you kegel like this, you are stretching against the tug-back, and when you release you can feel your unit relaxing into the stretch.

Controlling erection level:

With this variation, there is really not a concern with having too low of an erection level. If I’m 100% flaccid (0% erection), which is only very rarely at the very beginning of a session, a few light strokes will give me enough blood to work with, or I can just do SD stretches. 5% e level is enough blood to work with.

If the e level gets above 25%, I grip firmly at the base, do a half stroke, then do a Uli type squeeze while pulling up to get a kind of inverted V stretch with blood trapped in the upper shaft. Or else I push staight down and rotate my hand to get the L shape. Sometime I’ll rotate the unit in a helicopter motion while holding the squeze. After about a minute e level comes back down to manageable levels. Once e level is back down I’ll focus on just stretching to allow the unit to calm down and stay in exercise mode before continuing with the jelqing. Also, if the jelq strokes are starting to cause too much stimulation, I will focuse on pausing at the various stages of the stroke and feeling the stretch without friction, as mentioned above.

O-bend type exercises are also good for bringing e level down. These “Ulis,” squeezes and bends are not intense enough, held long enough, or repeated enough to target girth—they’re just a means of managing e levels while keeping blood moving in the unit.

I think this approach might be the key to gaining length from jelqing, at least for some people. :Shrug:

What is the base ball bat effect?

Is 15 minutes of jelq a day good enough to get me gains, I understand it may not be a fast way as Ireally don’t have much time on my hands and I’m embarrassed of my little dick

Is 15 minutes of jelq a day good enough to get me gains, I understand it may not be a fast way as Ireally don’t have much time on my hands and I’m embarrassed of my little dick

A lot of members here believe that if they can get in a hundred jelqs, that is a good work out, or schedule jelqing for an hour to an hour and a half. It has been my experience Quality Jelqs are much more effective than Quanity Jelqs. The nice thing about Quality Jelqs is that you do not have to do a hundred, you can do 25 or 30 and in most cases can take only 15 minutes.