Originally Posted by sed26
My final answer for this thread is that there is no generalization of what women want. It’s all in their personal preferences.
This is very true.
Add to this statement that women, as rule, are less interested in the mechanics of sex than men. So size, while important in terms of a basic functionality, is not as important to them overall.
Originally Posted by sed26
We are from two worlds.
Whenever I read stuff like that the smart-ass in me wants to reply "Yeah, I’m from the real world." However, I do know what you are trying to say, and I feel it’s important to show you respect. In truth, both worlds are real. So I’m going to try to respond thoughtfully to your post and see where that leads us. Maybe we’ll both learn something.
As a forum is about the sharing of ideas and knowledge I’ll share my insight into your post regarding the race issue. For the record I’m a skinny, white Italian American, not that it matters that much.
Originally Posted by sed26
African American women are more accustomed to a bigger penis. They don’t run in fear most of the time when they see a big penis.
My personal experience with women of color, from the ones I’ve been with and the one’s I’ve observed (I live in New York City) is that they are more vocal about their wants and needs and tend to be more aggressive. Many seem to feel that they are more of a woman if they can handle a big man - in every sense of the word. They also like to talk big. This is not a scientific observation, but an anecdotal one: it’s just been my experience and my observation. From the sound of it your experience is not so different from mine on this point.
Originally Posted by sed26
Maybe my assumption of 7" girth was a stretch but 6.5 isn’t THAT big.
This is simply not true.
The girth of an average human penis - regardless of race - is between 4.75" & 5." While there has not been any particularly irrefutable study on penis size if you look at the aggregate of many studies (Lifestyles, Durex, etc.), there is a basic pattern that emerges and reveals itself. I’ll refer you to this these links to get you started:
~ Penis circumference
~ Penis circumference percentile
Originally Posted by sed26
With the right amount of lube a woman can easily grow to accommodate the size of a penis.
I don’t know about ‘easily’ - I think that depends on the woman, but it is true that the vagina is elastic and that over time a woman can stretch to accommodate larger objects. If it couldn’t birth would not be possible.
With regard to sex, some women might like this stretching more than others. I think each woman will have her personal preference as to what is pleasurable and desirable, and different folks have different thresholds for pain.
Originally Posted by sed26
I have 6" girth and its not as thick as you make it out to be. I mean for virgins and all it ok but for sexually experienced women its not as good.
I’m not sure what you mean.
In objective realm of objects a tube with a 6" circumference is not that big, if we are comparing it to objects in general. However in realm of penises and vaginal openings such a circumference is indeed quite large. For the record you are in the 98th percentile of all human penises with such a girth. You can probably wear XL Magnums - which is the largest commercial production condom on the market. Get to 6.5" or above and you’ll have to buy custom.
The difference between 6" and 6.5" in general is a measly 1/2", but in terms of the penis and vagina it is a very big difference indeed. When I began PE the woman I was with at the time noticed a 1/4" gain without my saying anything.
Originally Posted by sed26
What I believe is that there are more big penis’ in our race. Me being the black guy and all I am expected to have more so what am I gonna do? Get more.
Sounds like you feel the pressure to measure up to the Mandingo standard.
Originally Posted by sed26
Say what you want but I don’t exactly get surprising reactions when my penis is seen by a girl.
I’ve been with some women who have huge DD cup breasts. When they took of their shirts I didn’t gasp or freak out.
Often when you’re with someone you have no real idea what their internal reaction is - particularly with regard to sex. There is so much going on in terms of our physiological and emotional responses.
And their is also a desire to play it cool while we get down to business. After all, no one wants to seem inexperienced or naive. Am I wrong?
If you’re looking for a woman to be AMAZED at your cock you could be PEing for a long, long time and never achieve that result.
Originally Posted by sed26
It’s not a good feeling when you’re on the football team and everyone just about has a bulge down there except you.
It is very common to underestimate yourself in relation to others, particularly on this subject. There’s also the fact that a penis can grow anywhere from 1.5 times it’s size to 5 times it’s size; ‘show-ers’ and ‘grow-ers’.
And some people stuff their jocks. :leftie:
Originally Posted by sed26
Black girls have different perspectives about a big penis. They are game to take on more than they can handle at the time while others might not. I can’t say what other women may or may not like but I can speak from those that I am most experienced with. I’m not saying all of them are but in general.
Like I said before, on this point our experiences are not so different.
But be aware that by being unimpressed and talking trash about a big dick is a way to assert control and dominance. It does seem like black women learn this early and are unafraid to play this card - but just cause they say it doesn’t make it true.
Originally Posted by sed26
We are obviously from 2 different sides of the street so you stay on yours and I will stay on mine. You can’t tell me otherwise {…}
Why be in a forum then? If your mind is made up and can’t be changed, what’s the point of discussion?
I can tell you otherwise: I just did. Whether you think it over or not is up to you. :leftie:
Originally Posted by sed26
To be Frank I think the average talk is bull as I don’t believe in all statistics. You will learn not to rely on them someday. Do you really believe that to obtain stats that those people actually get EVERYONE in the world and measure them and say this is average. It’s just a bunch of numbers gathered from a selected few. No matter how much you believe in them they are just biased. You can take 50 people and measure all of their penis’ and come up with an average and say that’s the world average.
I’d agree that statistics are not infallible, and they certainly can be manipulated. It’s also true that a study of only 50 people is not really of any value. A study of 1,000 is a more reliable cross section. I think Lifestyles was 3,100 I can’t remember.
When you bump the numbers up into the thousands you start to see a more reliable picture.
And there is a lot to be learned from statistics. Used properly they have helped to flesh out our understanding on a wide range of subjects and are a cornerstone of scientific analysis.
Originally Posted by sed26
As an African-American man I get so tired of girls asking me if my penis is big, if not they don’t wanna talk
anymore.
That sounds like it sucks. I’m thinking you need to talk to other women. If the ones you’re talking to now are like that they are not worth your time. They’re playing in the shallow end of the pool of personality. To hell with them.
A final thought about penis size and race. I am currently seeing a woman who had many black boyfriends in the 70s and 80’s and participated in many romps in the Studio 54 days of New York. Her experience is that the difference between black and white is basically nil overall. I also have an ex who is a surgeon and in her career as a doctor has seen literally thousands of penises. Her findings agree with my current lady’s: racial differences are mostly about color, not size.
Black men have a slight greater tendency to be ‘showers’ rather than ‘growers’ but even that is not statistically significant as to be definitive.
Perhaps all your guy friends are large. That could just be the luck of the draw.
Food for thought?
More food for thought…